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post Feb 7 2017, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 7 2017, 08:42 AM)
first of all, you misunderstood my post. Sometimes people get typo. What i meant was, since he doesn't want to go through medical check up, no harm for him to try out online. most won't request for medical check up. i did say he will kena loading or rejected.

I did not say medical declaration no need wo. you took my words and jump.

fine, i shall remove my sales pitch... sigh... i think i did violate some forum rules...  hmm.gif
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I see your point.

But when you say if you do not want to go through underwriting, it could means that there is a certain insurance company providing online solution which doesn't go through any underwriting. Which by right it's wrongly stated already. The insurance company will still need to underwrite your case based on your medical declaration in their online form.


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post Feb 7 2017, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(deminem77 @ Feb 6 2017, 10:49 AM)
I am diabetic with the blood sugar reading of 8mmol to 13mmol. Looking to buy insurance that I do not need to do any underwriting. Want to buy life insurance with the limit of rm200k coverage.

I am 37 m/smoker
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You can also consider into Personal Accident as there is a small amount for medical reimbursement and coverage for accidental death.

QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Feb 7 2017, 11:35 AM)
I'm sorry sir, you will not be accepted for life insurance underwriting with that blood glucose reading.
Perhaps you would consider PRS? It is not a life insurance, but it shares some of the features such as a tax relief of RM3,000, and the payout to your next of kin is quick and creditor proof.
Perhaps you may want to explore into PRS?
Here's an overview: http://www.ppa.my/prs/about-prs/overview/
And here's a bit more info: http://www.ppa.my/prs/about-prs/prs-scheme-features/

There is no medical underwriting required for PRS, but it locks your money in till retirement at age 55.
He's not an insurance agent... But to be fair, adele123 is very very knowledgeable.
Frankly he is not wrong as well.

The strict rules on ethics and conduct applies to us, not the consumer & general public.
Relax bro, don't be too uptight sometimes.  thumbsup.gif
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yes I agree. What irked me was that when they are trying to represent as 3rd party / part-time selling Insurance, they should know their product well and give the right advise.

If at times, they don't know whether it's right or wrong, clarify clearly with their upline first before promoting it.

adele123 does contribute a lot of knowledge regards to finance no doubt about that. His/her intention was clear but probably worded in a wrong way.
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post Feb 7 2017, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(engyr @ Feb 7 2017, 09:39 PM)
Anyone here experience before or anyone here is Prudential agent?

I purchased an investment link insurance from a Prudential agent 5 years ago. Today, I received a SMS from an unknown person. She claimed that my previous agent already quit the service. She is taking over and I need to sign document that she will be my agent.
Is this what Prudential practice? Is she trying to cheat me?

Thanks.
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Normally when an agent quits

You'll receive an official letter posted to your mailing address that tells you your agent is no longer servicing you and will be serviced by another agent

This is not a cheat but basically your new agent is just contacting you to notify you that she's trying make contact with you
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post Feb 10 2017, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(Freemasonry @ Feb 10 2017, 01:56 AM)
my insurance got rejected due to obesity, havent appealed tho.

Wondering if other insurance company will also rejected me or once i got rejected, all insurance company will also know about my case.

For example Company A rejected, will company B & C knows about it too? Like CCRIS or CTOS.

No health complication, 25 years old, smoker.

BMI 36
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BMI 36 is still acceptable with AIA but you'll be required to do a medical check up. Not an upfront reject

However do you have any health problem before this?

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post Feb 10 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 10 2017, 12:09 PM)
term or whole life / ILP?

if term + needn't go checkup or can use my yearly medical checkup from SJMC (mah fan to specially go do for insurance tongue.gif ), i'd sign up

i've 3 death insurances that pays out double if death by accident - all at $500K basic death payout only
coz $500K is the max without me running around to do medical checkup
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There are non medical limit policies right now up to RM4,000,000 sun insured which you can include critical illness right now. Not just up to 500k or 1 mil.

With option of payment term 5, 10 or 20 years. Option to insured up to 70, 80 or 100 years old
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post Feb 10 2017, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 10 2017, 12:59 PM)
--out of topic warning--
Yup, it's that bad to me - i'm my own EX-"bestest" customer/servicing agent
and
when i see FSM's platform of offered mutual funds offer/costs/performances & even direct ETFs stocks... based on an additional 30 years investment (new input + holding existing), i'd "not gain" several hundred Ks based on my Excel caclulations.

note that's just me lar - may not apply to anyone else coz i may be living in my own lalaland & perhaps bad Excel formulas usage tongue.gif
ie personal lalaland opinion & failed AddMaths formulas, may not be statement of fact for other real humans living in real world <statement to ensure no funny legal stuff>
huh? there are?
er.. yearly term (not those 5 10 20 years), non-ILP and as big a coverage per dollar/ringgit as UforLife? and needn't specially go for med-checks (ie. can use my SJMC yearly Executive Health Screening)?
if yes + as simple/straight-forward as UforLife, PM-AIA Group Life ( http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...2bc%3d&tabid=69 ), etc. let's talk (PM or here also ok) - looking @ consolidating for easier management & better cost (hopefully, bigger biz & less processing ma)  sweat.gif
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reason for yearly term = my debts grows & shrinks quite actively & quantitatively (due to leveraging for investments).
my death insurances are mainly for that - to cover my debts/leverage, thus my love ones can get encumbrance-free assets if i die before my "plans complete".
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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Feb 10 2017, 12:59 PM)
is this called single-premium ILP??

I check before, too bad cannot attach any rider (no medic, no ci, no pa), and still charge 5% and monthly fee as the regular one  cry.gif
anyway, I do see it useful as non-traditional saving plan which linked to IL unit performance.

btw, last I check, I can only assured for how much lump sum I put,
really can just lump sum 10k, then ask for 100k life assured  :confused:
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Unfortunately this is an ILP and it's not on term insurance basis.

There will be investment involved but good thing is that you have an option to pay a shorter term and don't have to opt for whole life payment for the higher coverage

It also provides 2x for accidental death and 3x for death in public conveyance like in public transport or aircraft

Meaning if you insure 4 mil.

Normal death 4 mil
Accidental death 8 mil
Accidental death in public conveyance 12 mil


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post Feb 10 2017, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:49 PM)
never heard of such plan,
could it cover death, disability, ci??

sound to me like a target date saving plan, that planning to leave 1mil for family and use this to save up the money...

anyway, I dont see it much different than getting a typical regular ILP, that put the same lumpsum money and then ask for premium holiday:
- regular one got flexibility for ci, medi, pa, or just plain life as the one you mention
- regular one charge lumpsum fee same as the one you mention
- regular one can have premium holiday on and off by request (should be at no cost)
- regular one can start with large sum insured(?) then yearly reduce it manually for free

unless there is a limitation on the sum insured from regular ILP,
I will update my existing ILP for such purpose, as both plan introduce monthly fee and better consolidate into one.
I am still try to understand on these ILPs, if you can show me such non-regular premium ILP that support medi, early ci and pa, I am interest to know more smile.gif

p.s the fee charged on lumpsum is as much as I paid for unit trust investment from local reputable company, since ILP plan does not advice me as the UTC do, could any one suggest to ILP company to reduce these lumpsum charge?
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The main advantage of such plan is that you'll be charged lower Cost of insurance within the policy compared to a normal ILP. Approximately 10% cheaper.

On top of that the medical underwritten limit is higher than a normal ILP.

You can't do that with a normal term insurance. Let's not compare unit trust companies provided insurance because they mainly only promote term insurance.

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post Feb 11 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Feb 11 2017, 05:05 PM)
Anyone surrender AIA insurance before? How to get back our cash value, can i choose get cheque from AIA now?
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Why do you want to surrender it in the first place?
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post Feb 11 2017, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Feb 11 2017, 11:05 PM)
Need the money. Can i get cheque from AIA instead of direct bank in to my account?
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You don't have to fully surrender the policy, you can do a partial withdrawal and then put it back later.

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