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Home Theatre Best HDMI DVD Player, Have you Found it Yet?

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post Jun 29 2007, 07:28 PM

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post Jun 29 2007, 11:39 PM

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plasma = beware of burn-in and overheating...

comparing:

plasma


screen size
Screen sizes range from 32 inches to 63 inches. Larger plasmas, like a 103 inch unit from Panasonic, are in production, but are still prohibitively expensive for consumer use.

Viewing Angle
Up to 160°

Screen Refresh Rates
Plasma displays refresh and handle rapid movements in video about as well as CRT televisions.

Burn-in or Stuck Pixels
Plasma TVs can suffer from burn-in produced by static images. After extended periods, stationary images "burn in" and produce an after-image ghost which remains permanently on the screen. With technologies such as 'pixel orbitor,' new plasma TVs have addressed burn-in and significantly reduced the issues of older models.

Product Life-span
Plasma TVs have a reported half life of 30,000 to 60,000 hours. Half-life is the time it takes the lamp to fade to half its original brightness.

Weight
Plasma displays are fairly heavy, and may need additional supports to be mounted onto a wall.

Durability
Plasmas are very fragile making them tricky to ship and install. Unlike the commercials where plasmas are mounted on the ceiling, plasmas are best installed by a professional, and should be installed on a wall that can bear a good deal of weight.

Shipping
Due to their fragile nature, plasma TVs need to be shipped by specialty carriers. Overnight or fast delivery options are not recommended. Special shipping methods and their heavier weight add to higher shipping costs.

Installation
Plasmas are heavier, use more power, and run hotter than LCD TVs, and therefore require more planning when mounting them. Plasmas are generally best installed by professionals.

Brightness/Contrast
Plasma TVs report higher brightness and contrast levels than LCDs. Under ideal conditions (no ambient light) this is a true advantage of plasma technology, because LCD TVs are backlit and therefore light must be blocked to create blacks. Plasmas have individual pixels that either on or off, creating deeper blacks and better contrast.

Thickness
As thin as 3 inches deep.

Performance at High Altitude
High altitudes can affect the performance of plasma displays because the gas held inside each pixel is stressed, and has to work harder to perform. Some manufacturers make plasmas that are specifically designed for high-altitudes, but they may be priced higher than standard models.

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LCD

Screen Size
Sizes range from 13 inches to 45 inches. As with plasma, there are larger LCD TVs made, like a 100 inch display recently released by LG, but they are not readily available or affordable at the consumer level.

Viewing Angle
Up to 175°

Screen Refresh Rates
LCD TVs were originally designed for data display, and not video. Therefore refresh rates had to be improved. LCD TVs with refresh rates below 16 ms or lower (5-15 ms) show very few noticeable artifacts. LCD TVs are now available with refresh rates as low as 5ms.

Burn-in or Stuck Pixels
LCD TVs do not suffer from burn-in, but can have a "retained pixel charge" which may also produce ghosting. Stuck pixels are also possible with an LCD display.

Product Life-span
LCD TVs also have replaceable backlights, but the expense of replacing one when the time comes may be greater than simply replacing the entire TV.

Weight
LCD TVs weigh less than comparably sized plasma TVs.

Durability
Much more durable than plasmas. End users can easily mount an LCD TV themselves if desired.

Shipping
Shipping LCD TVs is not difficult, and is not as expensive as shipping plasma displays.

Installation
End users can easily install LCD TVs themselves, or can use them just as they use a traditional TV using a stand.

Brightness/Contrast
LCD TVs can often look better in 'real-world' situations. Plasmas are made with a special glass surface that can reflect light, which dulls the brightness and contrast of the image. LCD TVs reflect very little light, allowing them to maintain levels in well-lit rooms.

Thickness
As thin as 2 inches deep.

Performance at High Altitude
LCD TVs are not affected by high altitudes.[SIZE=7][SIZE=7]

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post Jun 30 2007, 12:45 AM

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Well, the latest technology has improved considerably for both Plasma and LCD HDTV sets with each generation. Later, the gap between the two won't be that wide anymore.
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post Jul 1 2007, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jun 26 2007, 11:44 PM)
Your PC got S-Video output?

Besides Composite, S-Video is a bad choice for Video. If you can't use direct VGA connection to LCD-TV  then it's better to use some sort of DVI to VGA converter and connect to the LCD-TV.
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What about buying Sharp 32"?
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post Jul 1 2007, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(j45on @ Jul 1 2007, 11:20 AM)
What about buying Sharp 32"?
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You already know the features of Sharp. The best is for you to go to one of the AV shops (good example is Best Denki at KLCC) and compare all the different brands for 32" models yourselves.

Remember, even Sharp got different models for 32", but I guess by now the older models would probably have been phased out already.

btw, you can also connect your computer to your TV through HDMI using a DVI to HDMI converter.

Sorry I couldn't be of further help.

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post Jul 2 2007, 09:47 AM

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Yeah, for 32" Sharp has AX, BX and PX.
Last week, 37PX5M was launched.
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post Jul 3 2007, 03:38 PM

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I'm thinking of pairing Sony NS76H with Samsung's R81 32" via HDMI

anyone paired these 2 before? hows the quality like?
I've seen the pairing with Sony V200 32" and its really good.


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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Jul 3 2007, 03:38 PM)
I'm thinking of pairing Sony NS76H with Samsung's R81 32" via HDMI

anyone paired these 2 before? hows the quality like?
I've seen the pairing with Sony V200 32" and its really good.
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At 32", the difference you can see is from analog to digital. Not so much on the 720p thingy.

But no matter how, analog will never be better than digital... this is for sure...
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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Jul 3 2007, 03:38 PM)
I'm thinking of pairing Sony NS76H with Samsung's R81 32" via HDMI

anyone paired these 2 before? hows the quality like?
I've seen the pairing with Sony V200 32" and its really good.
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The latest Bravia V S300 looked even better but only for the 40 inch model and above as they feature a 10-bit LCD panel and upgraded contrast and brightness plus the Wega picture processing thingy. The smaller one has the normal 8-bit panel, I've confirmed this with Sony Malaysia and there was an error in the website that stated the 32' model spots a 10-bit panel.
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post Jul 4 2007, 03:28 PM

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I've stopped searching for DVD up-scaler player bcoz the recently PS3 firmware updates hv this function even up to 1080p thumbup.gif Thats really saves me several hundred bucks... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(neoardi @ Jul 4 2007, 03:28 PM)
I've stopped searching for DVD up-scaler player bcoz the recently PS3 firmware updates hv this function even up to 1080p thumbup.gif Thats really saves me several hundred bucks... whistling.gif
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However, you'll need to know one thing, a PS3 is a gaming console, not a dedicated dvd player so the performance falls short of a mid ranged upscalling dvd player like the Denon 1930. As a Blu-Ray player, yes, it's indeed better than the first generation Blu-Ray player from Samsung but time will tell when other next gen Blu-Ray players hit the market. I have a PS3 and XBOX 360, I'm sad to admit that the picture quality for these consoles are no better than my Sony 76H or even my Denon 2930 (unfair comparison I know) because these consoles have poor detection whether the dvd is film based or video based plus jaggies are there for poorly edited dvds. It's evident in mixed flagged dvds like Galaxy Quest, Star Trek First Contact, etc.
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But b4 this this, i'm considering to buy the Sony 76H, but then its no use to buy it since I don't see any better result compare to the PS3.
Here are a sample taken from my 46" Bravia X.
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FOR ME, its good enough thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jul 2 2007, 09:47 AM)
Yeah, for 32" Sharp has AX, BX and PX.
Last week, 37PX5M was launched.
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Hi Bro.!
PX model is old oledi!,
Next New FX model will be out end of this year or early!
i heard someone said, SONY will be launch new model also with cheapest price!
so wait & C! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Jul 5 2007, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(neoardi @ Jul 4 2007, 05:41 PM)
But b4 this this, i'm considering to buy the Sony 76H, but then its no use to buy it since I don't see any better result compare to the PS3.
Here are a sample taken from my 46" Bravia X.
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FOR ME, its good enough  thumbup.gif
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No difference?
How do you come out with that conclusion?
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post Jul 5 2007, 02:52 PM

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Sony has launched a few new models (300 series) just recently to replace the outgoing 200 series
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post Jul 5 2007, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Jul 5 2007, 02:31 PM)
No difference?
How do you come out with that conclusion?
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The ultimate result for me is MONEY.
Why should I spent RM500-600 to buy another DVD upscaler while i can get it for free (in this case, I already hv a PS3 which the main purpose is for gaming)?
Btw, i'm not an expert videophiler that can trace some small tidbits of details, what i know is that i love what i can see, thats all, its no crime to save some money right?
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post Jul 5 2007, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 5 2007, 02:52 PM)
Sony has launched a few new models (300 series) just recently to replace the outgoing 200 series
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Any idea of the price range ?
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QUOTE(djdyks @ Jul 5 2007, 10:15 PM)
Any idea of the price range ?
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The 32 inch Bravia S300 is around RM4600. Quite pricey and only the 40 inch panel will feature a 10-bit screen, the 32 inch one will be using just the normal Bravia 8-bit screen. I'm sure they're using S-PVA panel but I believe the 40 inch panel is 100% a S-PVA panel for sure since the specs are pretty much the same as Samsung's M8 series minus the full HD resolution.

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