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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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voncrane
post Apr 11 2016, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 11 2016, 06:06 PM)
i've been hunting for 4k material and got little.

they are not coming out as fast as i expected.

even this list is miserable!
http://www.blu-ray.com/4k/

however, the tv we have is still a good choice due to its master eng pro upscaling and the good android inside.

as for audio, dd/dts is already not bad. biggrin.gif

i remember a few years ago, some tv's go silent with dts videos as they refused to pay for the license.

dtshdma/ddtruehd... will become a standard arc feature in tv's when dd atmos and dts:x become popular, i.e. tv's will always be one step behind standalone players and boxes when it comes to audio.
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post Apr 12 2016, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 12 2016, 11:47 AM)
really, it will be some time before more 4k material comes out.

https://torrentfreak.com/first-netflix-4k-c...t-sites-150828/
according to above, a 4k tv episode is about 18gb (movie about 160gb), which comes out to be about 7MBps or about 54mbps.
so, i wonder if we are really getting 4k even on netflix with 25-30mbps speed! biggrin.gif
still, i am happy with the tv's upscaling and vibrant colors, esp for bdmv's.

been replacing part of old collection.

and talking about that, it is just a normal progress.... vhs->dvd->bluray/bdmv...->uhd4k...->hdr4k.

just another way to spend your money to pamper your eyes. laugh.gif
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It's definitely going to be awhile before 4K really becomes the norm. Right now, despite all the noise & pushing, it's still just not enough. TV manufacturers and their like have completely saturated the 1080p market and had they continued pushing it, they would have faced profits stagnation, reductions and perhaps even losses.. So 4K tech was pushed and pushed hard. IMO, the upscaling is alright but one always know it's not the real deal. It is progress and progress we must. Hence, my waiting on the sidelines, while the market grows. 2020 has a nice ring to it, plus Malaysia would be a high income nation by then.. Yeah!! tongue.gif tongue.gif Seriously though, there's no where else to go but up, so 4K, HDR, HEVC format, etc will end up becoming a regular thing, just as finding 1080p movies with full HD audio is today.

As for Netflix or YouTube, it's kinda public knowledge that they don't stream as raw as the video file can get. We are definitely not getting true 1080p or 4K from them, cuz if they offered it as is, it would cost significantly more in terms of required equipment & Labour, to provide us the content and we as consumers would need even more bandwidth just to receive such.. Furthermore, their target market would be reduced as not everyone has access to cheap, fast and stable Internet connections (Malaysia whistling.gif) ... Besides, majority of the displays are just that good at making the streams look good.
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post Apr 14 2016, 11:28 PM

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It has begun... biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

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Sony Introduces X93D & X85D 4K HDR TVs in Malaysia, Retail from RM7,499.
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post Apr 18 2016, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(potionmaster1987 @ Apr 18 2016, 12:18 AM)
I just bought Sharp 65 UE630X. I am hoping I am making the right decision....
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It's a little too late for that as the bullet has already left the gun.. biggrin.gif.. Congrats rclxms.gif
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post Apr 18 2016, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(potionmaster1987 @ Apr 18 2016, 09:39 AM)
I'm experiencing impulse buying syndrom yesterday. I went to the desa home warehouse sale at 6.30pm and spotted this TV. I actually looking for LG 65UF950 or Samsung 65 JU7500...But the PIC said this TV is the latest model compare both of the model i mentioned plus, he is giving me some voucher

I have not done any research on this model like i usually do before buying it..
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Impulse buying happen even to the best of us. Here's what, with a TV, all the research in the world cannot prepare you for a let down if your brain does not approve what the eye sees. So doing research is only half the job and meant to filter out certain models. Dealing with an impulse buy is a piece of cake, but buyer's remorse? That's the one that hurts the most as its longterm. smile.gif

Moving up to 65" from 32" is a significant upgrade. No worries, you'll be pleased when the TV arrives..
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post Apr 24 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 24 2016, 10:12 PM)
think so.

next bigger size will be an 80" LC-80XU930X - an 8k tv! biggrin.gif
https://sharp.com.sg/web/products/prodDetail.asp?prodId=644
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I see your 80" 8K and raise you! cool2.gif

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post Apr 25 2016, 04:38 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 24 2016, 11:01 PM)
It will be some years before it gets affordable though. 98" less than rm10k will be a dream.
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True true... However, it's possible.. Just ask Xiaomi (65" Mi TV 3S @ RMB9K/RM5.5K). Bet they can manufacture & sell a 98" 4K 120Hz TV in a couple of years for under RM10K. Of course, probably for the Chinese market only. As for the likes of Samsung, Sony, etc.. Branding commands a higher RRP.
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post May 4 2016, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 4 2016, 02:12 AM)
can you try videos of a few sizes?

say 4, 8, 12gb?

if it works well with 12gb, then confirmed it is excellent with 5ghz.
i tried it again with kodi - works good up to 8gb or so.

larger files, fast action, it can't cope.

i'm using a single band 2.4ghz.

so, i should plan on a dual band router. tongue.gif
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Yes.. Yes.. Dual Band Wireless AC Gigabit Router.. Welcome to last year... biggrin.gif

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post May 9 2016, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(HL2712 @ May 8 2016, 10:14 PM)
have been thinking whether to get 56 inches 330 or 50 inches 630, was thinking both are 4K tv from sharp and the picture quality should differ that much.

but i went to SenHeng today to compare side to side, the 630 is really better. well not very tech savvy, but 630x does look much better.
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Select the same picture mode (preferably movie mode) on both TVs and play the same source files (bring yours along.. Various resolutions and formats).. Compare and listen to your eyes.. Out of courtesy & not to waste the sales guy/gal's time, make sure you have truly decided and ready to buy on the spot before asking for such favors..
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post Jun 21 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(qwan1101 @ Jun 21 2016, 09:05 AM)
I think wanna cancel my hypptv jumbo package... and just use netflix and iflix...
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Haha.. Downgrading is possible (penalties may apply).. Outright cancelation and removal is not allowed though. Must attach at least one package.

QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jun 21 2016, 06:41 PM)
Is anyone using Time 100Mbps line with your Sharp? Is there a big improvement compared to Maxis 10Mbps?
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I should expect nothing less than a huge improvement. Which donation is better: RM10 or RM100? tongue.gif
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post Jun 22 2016, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jun 21 2016, 08:46 PM)
Will give it a try if they sponsor the fine for early termination,  I heard that they offer rm500 rebate if you switch lines.
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Yeah, hopefully the promo is still on. Regardless, I'd sub to TIME if the choice is available.
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post Jun 28 2016, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jun 28 2016, 03:46 PM)
My car is kind of small ( Ford Focus HB ), i don't think the box can fit my car  sad.gif
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Have it delivered... No?
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post Jul 23 2016, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(NotTheOne @ Jul 23 2016, 08:26 AM)
Sorry if this is wrong thread for this question. I will post it in other relevant thread too. I felt it appropriate for me to ask this question here because of the detailed and expert opinion it gets from those who reply here..

Background: I have been facing an internal and confusing battle between choosing an excellent Full HD TV (HDMI2.0 + digital audio decoding capable) vs low end 4K.

Question:
1. What will you guys say is an excellent Full HD 50" around RM 1.8-2.3k (must have at least one HDMI2.0 and able to decode audio DTS/DD at least)

Was considering lower end 4K since price range for these two are close to my budget: LG 49UF640T vs Samsung 48JU6000.

Confusion: I don't see it worth getting the lower end 4k simply due to these reasons:  non120Hz true refresh rate + most low end 4K are edge lit backlight + sitting about 8ft away + will not be playing much 4K content anyway.

Now,  my remaining Q:
2. Will I be able to see much difference between 4k and the 1080p at 8ft away? I need your expert help and comments please as I never owned LED TV larger than 40"

3. What features am I overlooking if I buy a Full HD now? I am ok to buy a new 4k TV in next 3years. At the same time I don't want to be disappointed with my current buy.

Please advise guys.
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In addition to all that have been mentioned.. Here's my take..

1. Your current budget falls very short from what is required by this thread.. Typically, that's thread derailing from the get go and most won't respond appropriately to that. However, since you asked a tad nicely.... Quick answers.. You are better off with a great 1080p TV (Smart) than a mediocre 4K TV. That's just me.. Tech will only get better and cheaper in three years. Plus, there'd be more 4K content for playback. Why? Good 1080p TVs if you can get a hold of em are much cheaper than they were a couple years ago, cuz 4K & HDR is all the rage now. Better bargain..

2. Yes you can.. Simply get a bigger screen.. At 8ft, recommendations are minimum 55" for 1080p and 70" for 4K TVs... This is of course dependent on the fact that your vision's... Well.. Good!.. I'll give you an example, I can see details & or defects on a screen, while my better half can't at all.. nod.gif

3. Get a TV that's truly "Smart".. I'm talking, solid playback of popular video & HD audio formats, be via USB or over LAN.. Then there's Netflix (make sure to confirm official support.. 1080p/4K), YouTube, Google Casting or similar support. Forget about getting a TV with good speakers (cuz you won't find one), rather concentrate and invest in a decent HT/AVR system... Passthrough and HDMI-ARC tech.

Extra: I'm a fan of Samsung's or LG's TV OSes.. Ultimately, it's your call cuz you will have to live with the TV for at least a couple of years.. The rule is to not focus on getting the "best" cuz trust me, you won't.. But rather, focus on purchasing the one your eyes agrees the most with within your budget.. If you go seeking out faults, you WILL find them and what you see, can never be unseen. Then immediately pull the trigger, no regrets! icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by voncrane: Jul 23 2016, 07:28 PM
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(NotTheOne @ Jul 24 2016, 08:38 AM)
Thanks AVFAN & voncrane - always can rely on your replying.

Does that mean a good 4K TV you will no longer use a STB and rely solely on the in-built Android?
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You are welcome..

That depends on if the TV ships with Android TV (Android TV OS is different from the Android OS found on most phones and tablets) & it's performance or the manufacturer's proprietary OS... Example, Samsung's newer OS is called Tizen. Obviously, you'll still need the STB for TM's Hypptv viewing. It's depends on your requirements & how far the budget can be stretched on entertainment biggrin.gif . For some, due to unsatisfactory performance/unmet needs from either an android equipped TV or TM's STB, they also buy a dedicated media player to compliment their entertainment setup.
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post Aug 24 2016, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Aug 24 2016, 05:31 PM)
if my internet speed is 1mbps is it worth to buy sharp smart tv if not which led tv should i buy? prefer (clear pq )
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1Mbps is not enough to smoothly stream most full HD content and definitely not 4K. You can always pre-download content, it'll just take you much longer.. Do upgrade speeds if you can..

There are a few models already mentioned in this thread.. Notice the title too as your budget should be around that to continue within this thread.. Lastly, what's your budget and go out to view TV models with your own eyes.. Come back when you have one or 2 preferred models in mind.. Easier to comment after you've done all above.. smile.gif
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post Sep 15 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Sep 15 2016, 08:36 AM)
1. QMedia4 <---> TV ( Optical/Toslink ), no sound when playing files using Kodi/Youtube but when using netflix to play the 4k content there is sound, normal full HD content no sound

I am currently using the 3.5mm stereo plug to output sound from TV to my soundbar  ohmy.gif

Or the TV Toslink output only can output sound using the built in media player?  sweat.gif

*Qmedia4 cannot decode DTS, the manual already stated need to set the Toslink output to PCM in order to get sound
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At this point, it's even more confusing.. Seems like either or both devices aren't that smart or compatible to begin with (given that there are no hardware defects or cable issue).. I understand there are certain limitations when it comes to non-HDMI outputs, however, it's 2016 and it's unacceptable for one to have to direct sound from a TV's headphone jack (using a converter or whatever) to a toslink port on a soundbar.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif Kodi does software decoding of HD audio and I believe the YouTube app outputs as stereo. I suggest you reconnect both TV and soundbar via toslink and fiddle with their audio settings..

This post has been edited by voncrane: Sep 15 2016, 09:01 AM
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post Sep 15 2016, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Sep 15 2016, 02:32 PM)
Yup this soundbar got no HDMI nor dts/dd, should have spent another 1k to get Yamaha YSP-2500 instead  doh.gif
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Man... no offense, but spending close to RM2K and can't even handle DTS in today's age, was a bad decision... There are 5.1 Home Theaters that come standard with HDMI inputs (minimum 2) and can handle DD, Dolby True HD, core DTS, DTS-HD, etc, which costs the same or even cheaper... Besides aesthetics, which to me is of a far lower priority, where sound is concerned.. I never did fancy soundbars and have considered them as overpriced.. Unfortunately, the purchase has been done... I'd advice, if you can't find an acceptable workaround on this... Sell off the soundbar and cut your losses... Get an entry-level AVR + speakers or a branded HT.. Much better performance.

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post Sep 28 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(qkumba @ Sep 28 2016, 03:25 PM)
How do u guys get those gemfive or 11street voucher?
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There's a thread or two in the Kopitiam section.. Hang around there..
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post Oct 14 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(NotTheOne @ Oct 14 2016, 03:41 PM)
hi bro

what has happened is i typed this (http://gen.-tec.co/gentecwiz/video%20addons/Oblivion%20Streams.zip)  directly as if adding a repo
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You aren't supposed to add that as the repo.. Here's the repo: http://gen-tec.co/gentecwiz

Repo is live and the addon zip is within.. The rest should be self-explanatory.. If you still have troubles, ask in the Kodi thread.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 24 2016, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 24 2016, 10:21 AM)
TM will not give up monopoly for houses.

then again, if u hv unifi, 30mbps is fine for most homes.

i am using that, paying a little less than what i was paying for 10mbps before that.

hope not to pay too much more when the change to 50 or 100mbps comes.
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We Unifi users are still heavily shortchanged... Imagine, for the same amount (or just a little extra) you are currently paying for 30Mbps, you could be getting 300Mbps (x10!!)... For me, it'll be x30, cuz still on 10Mbps... So yeah, TIME covered areas rule.

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