i see..
so the most reliable car in the world is mercedes?

i just baffle at how a huge majority of people misses the entire point of the car.

and it is interesting how the original 86 being so hyped up (i guess can owe it to initial d rofl) despite being an even worse/even more under powered car lol.

Haha. I think many people don't realize how the GT86 is actually manufactured and designed inside out by Subaru. Perhaps @sleepwalker can enlighten me again, is there anything actually Toyota about the GT86 aside from the badge?

And given Subaru's technical expertise, if Toyota wanted something that matches the A250 - it really wouldn't have been a problem at all.

i just baffle at how a huge majority of people misses the entire point of the car.

and it is interesting how the original 86 being so hyped up (i guess can owe it to initial d rofl) despite being an even worse/even more under powered car lol.

the manufacturer missed the whole point of it as well not turbocharging it 😂

the manufacturer missed the whole point of it as well not turbocharging it 😂

Nope.

What zweimmk said.

Eh, are both of you GT86 owners? 😄

Looking at your question, then his avatar, then your avatar, I can't help but notice the irony.

long time FnF forumers would know what I mean 

No I'm just a poor owner driving under powered poor man car

LoL ok good. So objectively, the designers got the GT86 wrong by not providing it with greater torque, by today's standards.

IMHO Slapping on a turbo would have easily sufficed citing above while meeting emission regulations.

How about wait for New Guilia?

Forget the Mercs and joint us...

Ahaha

Which brings us back to why Quazacolt earlier's statement of why many don't understand the point of the GT86.

It's not hard to put in a turbocharger into the engine but doing that will change the entire dynamics of the car.

LoL ok what is that point that escapes many?

Lol looks like you guys didn't get my point either - let's be realistic: by today's 'fun' standards, 205Nm just doesn't cut it for fun tossable cars anymore

When you say '(turbocharging) will.change the entire dynamics of the car', are you imagining Wataru's 290HP AE86 butt-kick turbo lag? Mass produced turbos these days are cheaper to manufacture than before and can be tuned to give minimal lag thus providing that instantaneous response NA drivers shout about.

Exactly why I say, objectively, the designers went the wrong way with this 'underpowered' NA by not embracing turbo technology into the GT86

M271(Non cgi) Due to design and material problem, the gears will makan.
M271(CGI version) Improved, this time wont makan. But will make a rough sound on start, and causes hard to start at times.
M272 (CGI or not) Balancer shaft makan. Engine power lost, rough idling.

TLDR:All new engines have problems. M272 is cheaper to maintain(on engine side), but it will come with 7g which you dont want.

Imo, just buy any turbo charged 4 cylinder with the 5 speed, then can go vroom vroom liao. *Since now they got repair kits for the turbo white smoke issue.*
All car makes will be problematic. depends on your luck. The new W222 is already visiting MB for malfunctions here and there.

I could not understand the meaning "makan" here. is it good or bad?