i just baffle at how a huge majority of people misses the entire point of the car.

and it is interesting how the original 86 being so hyped up (i guess can owe it to initial d rofl) despite being an even worse/even more under powered car lol.

the manufacturer missed the whole point of it as well not turbocharging it 😂

LoL ok good. So objectively, the designers got the GT86 wrong by not providing it with greater torque, by today's standards.

IMHO Slapping on a turbo would have easily sufficed citing above while meeting emission regulations.

Can't I have both? 😯😂

considering the evo x was officially well over 300k, unless ford is aggressive on the pricing, it may be in the 400k region
then again, they had been rather generous on the focus side offering specs/features that only cars well in the 300-500k region offered.

so who knows?

So back to the topic, is Mercedes A250 a Godcar?  😂

none of u guys understand why gt86 is a failed opportunity.

gt86 is targeted at sports car enthusiasts. now what is the number 1 top hobby of sports car enthusiasts??, why , modding their cars of course !

think how much more tuning potential the gt86 would have if it was turbocharged ?

u don't get my point . I am saying the gt86 has the potential to be so much more. it could be more tuneable and record more sales if only it had a turbo engine.

pls use your brain. which would u rather have ?
1. car which can tune only suspension
2. car which can tune both suspension and engine.

do u even logic ?
are u saying with a turbo engine I WONT love it, WONT be able to drive around exploring the limits, CANNOT bond with the ride, CANNOT enjoy the road ??
are u saying only with NA engine I will be able to "drive around exploring the limits, bond with the ride, enjoy the road" ?

dude,  don't even dream about winning dragstrip  and slashing circuit records.
the gt86 will get eaten by tiny hatchbacks like Renault clio, fiesta st, Peugeot 208 gti. if there is 1 thing it needs, its a turbo engine.

finally, fyi engine tuning is a major part of car mods. thats why engine tuning/remap/power box is a multi billion dollar industry.
which proves my point that many car enthusiasts love to tune for more power. which proves u wrong.
purity means nothing . sales figures is most important. how many more sales would it have recorded if it had a tuneable engine ?

the fd2r is not a valid comparison. it was launched 10 years ago , back when there were no emisions standards.  lets restrict the discussion to cars which are on sale today.

and why are u bringing in the megane ? whats your point regarding the megane ?

really? which track in germany is that ? I don't remember manufacturers testing their cars in SIC.

timetoattack ? modded cars don't mean shit.  the only globally accepted benchmark is nurburgring nordscheilfe. with factory specs, running on original equipment factory fitted tyres.

completely off-track, TS asked A250,
u guys syok sendiri went 10 pages GT86 and FD2R.

*ultimate facepalm*