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SKYjack
post Dec 17 2015, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Dec 17 2015, 07:45 PM)
Sorry if i slowpoke.
But iinm, ur E250 and A250\45 is not on same engine. His is m270,urs is m271(improved version from m271).

Yes,the E250 engine do have cam pulley issues, but not timing chain.
Timing chain ones are the older m271.

Correct me if I am wrong. Imma open to any comments.
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Tq for the corrections. I do not have any experience with M270/271,am learning as much as I can about the M271 as I am keen on the E250 coupe. Please tell me are there any reliability issues ? I am looking at a 2010 model!

2010 models are 5spd gb, the 2012 models come with 7spd gb, but cost 50K more,keeping with the same 1.8L engine.
, leaving aside the 2L engine. Is it worth paying the extra $. Tq!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Dec 17 2015, 11:44 PM
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post Dec 17 2015, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Dec 17 2015, 07:05 PM)
well, the 86 might not have the power, but the driving experience and handling is what defines a gt86. The raw rwd feel and easy to put into corners.. if power is gt86 owners want, they can get a sti, evo or mk7 gti if they want.. for the similar price...

this brings me to my point.. everyone got different taste in cars. no car is bad, no car is good, no car is perfect... Buy a car for its driving feel, looks, economical value.. do whatever you want with it, its your money. When it comes to my own cars, i know what i want, and you don't have to tell me what to buy.. period.
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post Dec 18 2015, 02:28 AM

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Hahaha this is exactly like the BMW forums. I didn't know MB community are similarly so heh.

So far what I have learnt from them is, well example:

a Non-M F30 3 series with the M-Sport bodykit+M-Performance aero kit = Acceptable cause it's as intended. Sometimes it's borderline RICER when there are too much aftermarket stuffs.

This is exactly like the AMG sports package for their regular car, it is just the manufacturer trying to milk some money from their popular racing/performance division. And why not? Customers likes them anyway so they are just doing a very good marketing. The AMG badges/kits does look sweet on a regular MB car! Do they deserve the AMG or M tagline? Certainly so, as the parts are indeed designed by the AMG or M. Just not the car itself. lol

a Non-M F30 3 series with the M3 Bodykit = Immediately categorised as Poser (Does this count as ah beng?) Similar as above? Converting a non AMG car into an AMG?

a Non-M F30, no matter with what exterior mod, a M/M3/M4 badge is at the trunk lid = OMGLULZ POSER. Well, I guess there are just people like to slap whatever badges they could find on their car.

Personally, anything OEM that is INTENDED for a particular car is fine. But as soon as you slap something on it that isn't meant to, that's too much for me and probably a lot of other car lovers out there. But then again theirs car, so nothing to do with me. Just felt pitiful for the car itself.
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(zaly @ Dec 16 2015, 05:22 PM)
i dun have merc but i have brand new bmw 2500cc since 2009 at auto bavaria, for normal servicing  about rm300 to rm500, major about rm1k to rm1.2k

i heard C&C just changed it whatever they want coz for them, if you drive merc, you should can afford the maintenance
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dafuq...same as preve! shocking.gif

and i thought i saved by buying proton... shakehead.gif
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Dec 18 2015, 02:28 AM)
Hahaha this is exactly like the BMW forums. I didn't know MB community are similarly so heh.

So far what I have learnt from them is, well example:

a Non-M F30 3 series with the M-Sport bodykit+M-Performance aero kit = Acceptable cause it's as intended. Sometimes it's borderline RICER when there are too much aftermarket stuffs.

This is exactly like the AMG sports package for their regular car, it is just the manufacturer trying to milk some money from their popular racing/performance division. And why not? Customers likes them anyway so they are just doing a very good marketing. The AMG badges/kits does look sweet on a regular MB car! Do they deserve the AMG or M tagline? Certainly so, as the parts are indeed designed by the AMG or M. Just not the car itself. lol

a Non-M F30 3 series with the M3 Bodykit = Immediately categorised as Poser (Does this count as ah beng?) Similar as above? Converting a non AMG car into an AMG?

a Non-M F30, no matter with what exterior mod, a M/M3/M4 badge is at the trunk lid = OMGLULZ POSER. Well, I guess there are just people like to slap whatever badges they could find on their car.

Personally, anything OEM that is INTENDED for a particular car is fine. But as soon as you slap something on it that isn't meant to, that's too much for me and probably a lot of other car lovers out there. But then again theirs car, so nothing to do with me. Just felt pitiful for the car itself.
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Dec 17 2015, 10:26 PM)
Tq for the corrections. I do not have any experience with M270/271,am learning as much as I can about the M271 as I am keen on the E250 coupe. Please tell me are there any reliability issues ? I am looking at a 2010 model!

2010 models are 5spd gb, the 2012 models come with 7spd gb, but cost 50K more,keeping with the same 1.8L engine.
, leaving aside the 2L engine. Is it worth paying the extra $. Tq!
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M271(Non cgi) Due to design and material problem, the gears will makan.
M271(CGI version) Improved, this time wont makan. But will make a rough sound on start, and causes hard to start at times.
M272 (CGI or not) Balancer shaft makan. Engine power lost, rough idling.

TLDR:All new engines have problems. M272 is cheaper to maintain(on engine side), but it will come with 7g which you dont want.

Imo, just buy any turbo charged 4 cylinder with the 5 speed, then can go vroom vroom liao. *Since now they got repair kits for the turbo white smoke issue.*


All car makes will be problematic. depends on your luck. The new W222 is already visiting MB for malfunctions here and there.
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:19 AM

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just dont challenge a focus ST
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Dec 18 2015, 08:01 AM)
dafuq...same as preve! shocking.gif

and i thought i saved by buying proton... shakehead.gif
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eh eh eh...jangan begitu.
proton transmission part rosak, you get it fixed with rm2k.
mb/bmw transmission part rosak, you get it partial fixed with rm4k+.
mb/bmw got engines issues. Proton none.

kena see ini macam.
Lastly all naik basikal d. sweat.gif

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post Dec 18 2015, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 18 2015, 08:19 AM)
just dont challenge a focus ST
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Focus ST that good?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Dec 18 2015, 09:23 AM)
Focus ST that good?
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250 hp through a manual 6 speeder.

i would say yes
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post Dec 18 2015, 09:28 AM

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Hi i would like to advice not buying this car. the back seater is really bumpy during rides.

and the pick up of the car is not there.

bai.
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Dec 18 2015, 08:18 AM)
M271(Non cgi) Due to design and material problem, the gears will makan.
M271(CGI version) Improved, this time wont makan. But will make a rough sound on start, and causes hard to start at times.
M272 (CGI or not) Balancer shaft makan. Engine power lost, rough idling.

TLDR:All new engines have problems. M272 is cheaper to maintain(on engine side), but it will come with 7g which you dont want.

Imo, just buy any turbo charged 4 cylinder with the 5 speed, then can go vroom vroom liao. *Since now they got repair kits for the turbo white smoke issue.*
All car makes will be problematic. depends on your luck. The new W222 is already visiting MB for malfunctions here and there.
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u graduated from university of lowyat?? or copy paste from website?

by the way, the turbo version, u mean for maseli?
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Dec 18 2015, 10:05 AM)
u graduated from university of lowyat?? or copy paste from website?

by the way, the turbo version, u mean for maseli?
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graduated here.
silently follow the threads. tongue.gif

yeap, merc. so gain. much economy. very smooth. such powerful


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post Dec 18 2015, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Dec 18 2015, 10:10 AM)
graduated here.
silently follow the threads. tongue.gif

yeap, merc. so gain. much economy. very smooth. such powerful
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seriously, i thought the MOD will come to explain, the AHBENG things,

he just pretend dont know and move on..

pity
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Dec 18 2015, 10:12 AM)
seriously, i thought the MOD will come to explain, the AHBENG things,

he just pretend dont know and move on..

pity
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what mod?wat ahbengs?
its not called ahbengs mod ok!!!!
its called "RETROFIT"!!!!


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post Dec 18 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 17 2015, 03:09 PM)
Looking at your question, then his avatar, then your avatar, I can't help but notice the irony.

long time FnF forumers would know what I mean  biggrin.gif
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 17 2015, 02:25 PM)
Some of us just prefer the original looks instead of a copied one, no matter how good it looks.
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people on the side of things here just want to mind our own business with our stock car. yet for some reason those spoilered/bodykit folks somehow still tend to pester over sweat.gif
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(RachelBaby @ Dec 17 2015, 05:17 PM)
I drove GT86 before i add A into the family.. still keeping them and im happy with both to be honest.. but stock GT86 has no power at all.. no way it can compete w something bigger than the A250 sport.. we have to turbocharge it, change the suspension etc etc so it can be as good as the A250, if not better.. nothing to be very proud of an 86 or an A until one need to insult how ones car look like.. like he say, everyone has their own pref in their book.. so this is his and mine.. its not very nice to say ppls car is UGLY after they have put so much effort on it.. if one is a car lover, regardless what car ppl driving, they will respect it.. even if its saga-subaru wanna be or kancil-suzuki swift wanna be.. one can tell or share their opinions, but it can be done in a proper mannered way, i believe..
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i just baffle at how a huge majority of people misses the entire point of the car.

and it is interesting how the original 86 being so hyped up (i guess can owe it to initial d rofl) despite being an even worse/even more under powered car lol.
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Dec 18 2015, 02:28 AM)
Hahaha this is exactly like the BMW forums. I didn't know MB community are similarly so heh.

So far what I have learnt from them is, well example:

a Non-M F30 3 series with the M-Sport bodykit+M-Performance aero kit = Acceptable cause it's as intended. Sometimes it's borderline RICER when there are too much aftermarket stuffs.

This is exactly like the AMG sports package for their regular car, it is just the manufacturer trying to milk some money from their popular racing/performance division. And why not? Customers likes them anyway so they are just doing a very good marketing. The AMG badges/kits does look sweet on a regular MB car! Do they deserve the AMG or M tagline? Certainly so, as the parts are indeed designed by the AMG or M. Just not the car itself. lol

a Non-M F30 3 series with the M3 Bodykit = Immediately categorised as Poser (Does this count as ah beng?) Similar as above? Converting a non AMG car into an AMG?

a Non-M F30, no matter with what exterior mod, a M/M3/M4 badge is at the trunk lid = OMGLULZ POSER. Well, I guess there are just people like to slap whatever badges they could find on their car.

Personally, anything OEM that is INTENDED for a particular car is fine. But as soon as you slap something on it that isn't meant to, that's too much for me and probably a lot of other car lovers out there. But then again theirs car, so nothing to do with me. Just felt pitiful for the car itself.
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post Dec 18 2015, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Dec 18 2015, 08:21 AM)
eh eh eh...jangan begitu.
proton transmission part rosak, you get it fixed with rm2k.
mb/bmw transmission part rosak, you get it partial fixed with rm4k+.
mb/bmw got engines issues. Proton none.

kena see ini macam.
Lastly all naik basikal d.  sweat.gif
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i see.. hmm.gif
so the most reliable car in the world is mercedes? unsure.gif

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