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Fundsupermart.com v13, Merry X'mas and Happy 牛(bull!) Year
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SUSPink Spider
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Dec 17 2015, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 17 2015, 09:56 AM) YES, sir.... have the intention to do that is after he/she replied..... need to see how he/she response.... maybe he/she just wanted to get more units? WHY THE HELL WOULD U WANTED MORE UNITS
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SUSyklooi
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Dec 17 2015, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 17 2015, 09:58 AM) WHY THE HELL WOULD U WANTED MORE UNITS for value appreciation? (or depreciation)
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BestWorker8-5pm
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Dec 17 2015, 10:03 AM
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New Member
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Kenanga Growth is good buy for now?
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SUSyklooi
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Dec 17 2015, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(BestWorker8-5pm @ Dec 17 2015, 10:03 AM) Kenanga Growth is good buy for now? how many funds do you already owned? if this is the 1st want....  yes,...it is a good time as usual....buyers beware.....don't blame me if it Kaboomed.... just keep for a longer duration of about 5yrs...can you keep that for 5 yrs?
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wil-i-am
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Dec 17 2015, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 17 2015, 10:01 AM) for value appreciation? (or depreciation) In left pocket, u get more units In right pocket, yo Nav drop after distribution In center pocket, u breakeven
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Avangelice
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Dec 17 2015, 10:49 AM
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America's first interest rate hike in nearly a decade is here.
The Federal Reserve raised its key interest rate on Wednesday from a range of 0% to 0.25% to a range of 0.25% to 0.5%.
what will happen to us?
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BestWorker8-5pm
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Dec 17 2015, 10:54 AM
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New Member
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 17 2015, 10:09 AM) how many funds do you already owned? if this is the 1st want....  yes,...it is a good time as usual....buyers beware.....don't blame me if it Kaboomed.... just keep for a longer duration of about 5yrs...can you keep that for 5 yrs? First time purchaser, inflation rate leading, FD rate cannot catch up.. Come to the point fund will be good buy, but target 1-3 years holding, maybe 4x of FD rate then sold.. But kaboom or financial storm could be happen, sound unsecured.. all fund buyers got any brilliant idea?
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Avangelice
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Dec 17 2015, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(BestWorker8-5pm @ Dec 17 2015, 10:54 AM) First time purchaser, inflation rate leading, FD rate cannot catch up.. Come to the point fund will be good buy, but target 1-3 years holding, maybe 4x of FD rate then sold.. But kaboom or financial storm could be happen, sound unsecured.. all fund buyers got any brilliant idea? xuxen help?
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Avangelice
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Dec 17 2015, 11:05 AM
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A "Safehouse" Fund During Periods Of Heightened Volatility December 14, 2015 A "Safehouse" Fund During Periods of Heightened Volatility Author : Lee Tien Xiang » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « “Fed rate hike”, a phrase that might stir fear among investors as this signals that the “ultra-loose monetary policy” era in the US is coming to an end and the six-and-a-half-year-long of bull party might be over. The Fed rate hike cycle could kick-off as early as mid-December as analysts are expecting a 74% chance that the Fed will be raising the benchmark interest rate during this month’s FOMC meeting (as of 3 Dec 2015). While the rate hike cycle is expected to be gradual, there is definitely a reason for investors to be edgy since the Fed has not hiked rates in nearly a decade and market players have become quite accustomed to the era of ultra-low interest rates.
As uncertainty looms on the magnitude and momentum of the Fed rate hikes, and given that the subsequent hikes will be “data dependent”, there might be some heightened volatility in the equity markets going forward. Recent volatility can be seen in the global equity space after the announcement of the European Central Bank on its further monetary easing. Although the easing package is in line with consensus expectations, the actions taken by Mario Draghi fell short of market expectations that he will do more, causing violent swings in the currency markets as well as the equity markets. With that as a reference, short-term elevated volatility might also present in the equity markets when the long-awaited Fed rate hike actually happens.
Cash is king
Although the old adage of “cash is king” during volatile period might be true, we believe that as compared to just holding cash, investors are better off parking their monies in the RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2 to safeguard against the “stormy weather” in the markets while waiting for a better opportunity to re-enter the equity markets. As compared to banks’ saving accounts that give tepid interests, the yields provided by the RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2 appeared to be relatively more attractive at this juncture. The indicative interest for the fund has risen in recent time. As of 10 December 2015, the indicative interest for the fund stood at 3.738%. This is higher than the FD rates offered by some of the banks in the market and one of the highest yield reached since the fund’s inception!
Since the OPR rate hike on July 2014, coupled with the intense competition among banks to raise funds from retail deposits, the deposit rates have been inching up for quite a fair bit. As the RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2 tends to invest part of its money into fixed deposits for return enhancement, the increasing deposit rates offered by the banks in recent time have helped to boost up the fund’s indicative yield. With the banks continuing to compete for retail deposits in order to cope with their high loan-to-deposit ratios as well as to comply with Bank Negara’s capital requirement, the deposit rates offered are expected to stay high for quite some time. This will likely keep the yield for this fund at an attractive level for investors, allowing investors to gain decent returns while weathering through the volatile period in the equity market.
Takeaway
As uncertainty looms for the impact of Fed rate hike, investors who are concerned of the elevated volatility within the equity markets in recent times can consider allocating a portion of their monies into the RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2. This will allow them to safeguard their monies while awaiting the opportunities to participate in the market again. At the meanwhile, by keeping their ammunition in the RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2, investors can enjoy an indicative yield of up to 3.728% (as of 10 December 2015).
I am lost now.
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SUSPink Spider
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Dec 17 2015, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 17 2015, 11:05 AM) Kau lost apa?
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Avangelice
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Dec 17 2015, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 17 2015, 11:10 AM) Kau lost apa?  worried la bro. i have a business to run and a house and car to service (loan)
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SUSPink Spider
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Dec 17 2015, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 17 2015, 11:12 AM) worried la bro. i have a business to run and a house and car to service (loan) U forgot this: Golden QuoteQUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jul 9 2015, 10:10 AM) My personal experience in investing in unit trusts:- 1. We invest in unit trusts using spare cash. We have back up emergency funds of at least 3-6 months. No bad debts e.g. credit card debts. 2. Long term investment horizon of at least 2-3 years. This will even out the market fluctuation. 3. We cannot time the market. Therefore we have to do DCA or VCA and do portfolio rebalancing from time to time. If we cannot satisfy the above requirements, it is best to stay away from unit trust investments or any other investments for that matter. Unit trust investments is not a capital guaranteed get rich quick scheme. There are risks involved.
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kimyee73
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Dec 17 2015, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2015, 11:09 PM) average down lor aka top-up  There is a danger in blindly or even regularly averaging down. I've done back test before. In the case of black swan event like in 2008, if top-up monthly, I'll run out of cash way before it even reach the bottom in early 2009. There has to be a system to change asset allocation to minimize the drawdown. I think going with 50:50 as suggested by FSM recently is one way to do it.
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Avangelice
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Dec 17 2015, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 17 2015, 11:20 AM) U forgot this: Golden Quotelol not even worried about my unit trusts la. just weather the storm. I just need someone to help me understand how the increase in fed hike will affect us so i can prepare/invest/hold down wisely
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pisces88
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Dec 17 2015, 11:42 AM
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topped up Aberdeen world, asian income fund, ponzi 2.0.
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SUSPink Spider
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Dec 17 2015, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 17 2015, 11:31 AM) lol not even worried about my unit trusts la. just weather the storm. I just need someone to help me understand how the increase in fed hike will affect us so i can prepare/invest/hold down wisely Hold steady. Any storm would just be temporary IMHO.
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Avangelice
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Dec 17 2015, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 17 2015, 11:44 AM) Hold steady. Any storm would just be temporary IMHO. yes sir!
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kimyee73
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Dec 17 2015, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Dec 17 2015, 07:48 AM) Fund can use TA one meh? This is new to me. It depends on what is your believe. If like pinky, he absolutely scorn it. If you believe price action is indicative of what the market think (including emotion, believe, news etc.) of the security regardless of fundamental analysis, then you can use tech analysis for UT but in limited fashion since you do not have OHLC. In fact you can get DIY weekly OHLC data using daily NAV price  UT price action is the result of combination of price movement in underlying assets, dividend collected, investor deposit/withdrawal, fund manager's action, forex movement etc.
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SUSPink Spider
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Dec 17 2015, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 17 2015, 11:51 AM) It depends on what is your believe. If like pinky, he absolutely scorn it. If you believe price action is indicative of what the market think (including emotion, believe, news etc.) of the security regardless of fundamental analysis, then you can use tech analysis for UT but in limited fashion since you do not have OHLC. In fact you can get DIY weekly OHLC data using daily NAV price  UT price action is the result of combination of price movement in underlying assets, dividend collected, investor deposit/withdrawal, fund manager's action, forex movement etc. Yerrr U know me too well
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kimyee73
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Dec 17 2015, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 17 2015, 09:39 AM)  was thinking of NOT building a diversified portfolio next year......(still thinking, still have abt a month before the usual annual what and where to invest promo starts) thinking of reducing EQ and focus that value into KGF and EISC (just an example) maybe more % on FI like 60%, 30% in EISC, 10% in KGF only (or maybe Ponzies) have to try to see how will the results be expected...with various "projected" rate of returns of those funds..... The chart/data provided me a glimpse of my "would be" performance of the next many years..... have to do something to change that, it not happy with it?  ..... I feel you. I'm figuring out ways to get 10% ROI annually as well. If you can get that, IRR does not matter even if it is lower currently since you screwed up  for last couple of years. Your IRR will slowly rise with your 10% annual ROI  . Let me know your method if you able to achieve it by end of next year. I'll let you know as well if I can achieve it by then
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