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post Dec 16 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 16 2015, 10:18 PM)
yes,..because of past 7x......I just entered (gambled) 1.7% into it yesterday
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When you want to play with support and resistance, need to play correctly. Don't buy until it bounce off the support. What happen if it break the support line instead of bounce up?
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post Dec 17 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2015, 11:09 PM)
average down lor aka top-up  tongue.gif
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There is a danger in blindly or even regularly averaging down. I've done back test before. In the case of black swan event like in 2008, if top-up monthly, I'll run out of cash way before it even reach the bottom in early 2009. There has to be a system to change asset allocation to minimize the drawdown. I think going with 50:50 as suggested by FSM recently is one way to do it.
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post Dec 17 2015, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Dec 17 2015, 07:48 AM)
Fund can use TA one meh? This is new to me.
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It depends on what is your believe. If like pinky, he absolutely scorn it. If you believe price action is indicative of what the market think (including emotion, believe, news etc.) of the security regardless of fundamental analysis, then you can use tech analysis for UT but in limited fashion since you do not have OHLC. In fact you can get DIY weekly OHLC data using daily NAV price cool2.gif UT price action is the result of combination of price movement in underlying assets, dividend collected, investor deposit/withdrawal, fund manager's action, forex movement etc.
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post Dec 17 2015, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 17 2015, 09:39 AM)
hmm.gif was thinking of NOT building a diversified portfolio next year......(still thinking, still have abt a month before the usual annual what and where to invest promo starts)
thinking of reducing EQ and focus that value into KGF and EISC (just an example)
maybe more % on FI like 60%, 30% in EISC, 10% in KGF only (or maybe Ponzies)
have to try to see how will the results be expected...with various "projected" rate of returns of those funds.....

The chart/data provided me a glimpse of my "would be" performance of the next many years.....
have to do something to change that, it not happy with it? hmm.gif .....
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I feel you. I'm figuring out ways to get 10% ROI annually as well. If you can get that, IRR does not matter even if it is lower currently since you screwed up whistling.gif for last couple of years. Your IRR will slowly rise with your 10% annual ROI thumbup.gif. Let me know your method if you able to achieve it by end of next year. I'll let you know as well if I can achieve it by then rclxm9.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 17 2015, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Dec 17 2015, 06:03 PM)
I tried TA before, in stock investment.

But whether it's stock market or UT, trend, momentum and sentiment are all short term. Since I invest in UT for long term, I don't bother to do TA lah...

TA, if we get it right, we may save a few percent of capital. But I am eyeing 8% annual return laugh.gif

And, if we get it wrong, we may miss the boat...
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Not all TA are short term. It depends on your time frame. If you trades on weekly or monthly chart, they are not short term. What happened if you don't use TA in 2000? US market was moving sideway for 12 years before breakout and in the bull for last 3-4 years. Imagine your money going nowhere for 12 long years.
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 18 2015, 05:54 PM)
Potong stim. Just when I thought that there could a mini rally for year end, all the markets closed RED today.  doh.gif
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Some already anticipated this due to FANG did not rally on Wednesday. Still too early to tell.
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:50 AM

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Top up Ponzi 1.0, 2.0, RHB small cap opportunity, RHB ATR & RHB EM Bond. Profit taking on KGF & KAF vision fund.
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post Dec 22 2015, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 22 2015, 03:53 PM)
hmm.gif do i really need to click on something to trigger it?
not automated wan?
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It is automatic but you need to intra-switch from fixed to equity and not purchase using CMF. The later will charge you SC.
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:58 PM)
BEFORE you press the button for the final transaction, it will show whether you are charged SC or not. If the screen shows that you are being charged SC, then just ABANDON the transaction lor.  biggrin.gif

But the whole INTER-SWITCH to INTRA FUND transaction using my method will take at least 10 days. Unless you are in rush. In this case, once you have performed the Affin Equity Fund to Affin Bond Fund switch, just use your CMF to buy the Kenanga Bond Fund for switching into Kenanga Equity Fund. Don't wait to switch the Affin Bond Fund into Kenanga Bond.

After that, in a few days time, just sell back your Affin Bond Fund into CMF.

P/S:  If you are transacting RM10K and above, you can save at least a few hundred RM.
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To make it faster, can buy Kenanga Bond Fund ahead of the Affin switch if know how much to invest in KGF since no SC. Once got credit from Affin equity to bond switch, immediately switch Kenanga bond to equity.
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post Dec 31 2015, 09:10 PM

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May the New year of 2016 bring you bountiful happiness, prosperity and eternal health. Happy New Year!!!
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post Jan 1 2016, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 1 2016, 07:16 PM)
hmm.gif from his earlier post at page # 5, post# 86, I think [yklooi] is looking for a quantum leap to jump up his IRR from his simulation of expectation.....
post#94 , he mentioned of what he had tried and post # 96, what he will be trying...

and from his post at page # 35, post# 700, he mentioned about FSM comments of small cap index....

therefore, I think he would not be so gung ho,...when the small cap index is higher.....
so I think he will reorganise or do his "portfolio transformation plan" again when that time comes....
he already mentioned in post # 693....."2016 will be the year of either make it or burst".

just hope that he can achieve his "portfolio transformation plan" in < 9 months....

looking at his planed portfolio allocation.....at 28% FI (AMB ITF), 21% M'sia Small cap & 11% KGF and 23% in Ponzi 1.0 (Ponzi 1.0 has 30% in M'sia).......
I think the chances of AMB losing 10% NAV which would affect his portfolio by 2.8% to be very slim compared to the chances of his M'sia coverage dropping 10% which would affects his portfolio by a large numbers to be MUCH higher.
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Actually 21% small cap are not fully small cap as RHB smart treasure is a mix of cap sizes. If really want small cap, he can look at other options such as KAF Vision, RHB Smart Balanced and RHB Small Cap Opportunity.
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post Jan 2 2016, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 2 2016, 04:40 PM)
Just hope what you said is true...
I remembered, got 1 time recently, they used a very simple system....they hand out discount voucher in the form of password number...
one need to key in the password to get the discount....no need smart system...
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That was an event in April last year. The code can be used only once and has expiry date. In current case, validity is only for a single day, so don't think they will use voucher. Anyway they said the same think last year but everyone still can buy at special rate without attending the event in person.
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QUOTE(ableze_joepardy @ Jan 4 2016, 11:03 PM)
actually how do u guys lock your profit? once achieve target % then sell / switch to money market and wait for market bottom again?

or ride it all the way until new theme come?

bcoz if u dump and come back 10 yrs later there's possibility the amt same as that time u dump 10 yrs back right? like what happened in 2008. years of profit just burned.

hope all taikors kindly share for bilis like me.
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You may want to dump some amount at some point to preserve your ammo. Of course you don't wait 10 years to come back. Some would suggest holding on to it and average down but you'll ran out of ammo half way through unless you are heavy on fixed income as reserve ammo. In 2008, my PM UTC advised me to switch all my profits to MM after my profit was down by 20%. Switched back to equity in 2009 for the ride up. It is really up to you on what course of action to take due to several schools of though on this subject.

As for me, I regularly take profits as you never know when a black swan event will come. Downside of doing this is I will not fully benefit from compounding effect.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 5 2016, 01:04 AM)
How regularly do u mean?  By a period of time?  Or by a percentage of profit?
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Take profit when more that 6%.

QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 5 2016, 01:59 AM)
The question is if we take profit, where to invest next?

Let's say we sell equity fund A and buy equity fund B. When bear market comes, both may down equally.

Of course if we anticipate bear market we can switch to money market fund. But did you, or your UTC, anticipate financial storm in 2008?
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Switch to bond fund or CMF. Some time is good to keep cash.

Prior to 2008, I did not monitor my investment. My UTC alerted me to this during our monthly meet-up. I made about 50% profit over the next 2 years.

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post Jan 5 2016, 12:09 PM

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My updated main portfolio performance for December 2015.
NOTE: Earlier figure was wrong due to range error in excel formula for calculating ROI. IRR formula are correct. Thanks to yklooi for questioning the numbers.

Oct Nov Dec
Portfolio - Main IRR 11.08% 6.73% 7.23%
Top 3 Funds % of Port
EI Small Caps 3.5% IRR 23.82% 25.2% 25.28%
CIMB Global Titan 1.7% IRR 16.76% 15.39% 14.09%
TA Global Technology 2.1% ROI 11.3% 11.8% 11.43%
Bottom 3 Funds (equity)
AMB Dividend 0.6% ROI -2.84% -4.29% -3.48%
AmPrecious Metal 8.9% ROI 7.2% -5.9% -6.16%
AMB Ethical 5% IRR -11.56% -18.26% -7.77%

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post Jan 5 2016, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 5 2016, 09:18 AM)
Hehe.. lock profit first for my old Smart Treasure fund! Almost 80++% profit after less than 5 years holding..

Just lock 38% profit only (as this is the gain for this fund in 2015), rest just keep it inside...
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That is one of the top performer for Malaysian general equity fund in 2015. Good for you.
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post Jan 5 2016, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 5 2016, 01:23 PM)
But why didn't your UTC alert you before you lost 20% profit? The face is even he/she failed to foresee market crash. That's what I mean.

If you can't foresee market crash, you would just sell one equity fund and buy another.

Look at penjaga van's post above regarding 3% signal.
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That was because she is my newly minted UTC. My old UTC totally ignored me. When I approached her, she was surprised that I have not switch. They have alerted all their customers to switch already. Those were the days when I was totally noob about investment and depended on UTC.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 5 2016, 01:06 PM)
But but but...

I remember some time Smart series of RHB funds totally koyak tongue.gif
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RHB overall has been doing quite well in 2015. See if they can continue do as well this year.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 5 2016, 03:18 PM)
hmm.gif did you added heavily on RHB Small Cap Opp  in the month of DEC?
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Yes I did. Oct & Nov figures are actually IRR as I exited this fund in July. I switched back in late Nov causing IRR to spike to 30% but I rather post ROI figure of 18%. Don't ask me why ROI is 18% while the fund only up about 6%. Just put up what the spreadsheet shows.

UPDATE: I found error in the spreadsheet. Will update correct figure as soon as I fixed it. Thanks for posing this question that get me to think why and investigate.

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 5 2016, 03:50 PM)
ok... thumbup.gif
hmm.gif this is interesting.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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The error got to do with excel range not moving as I added new rows. Only affected ROI calculation for 2 funds. Fixed that and ROI is now 6.68%, no longer in my top 3 funds. Also found same error in TA global tech. Table updated. Thanks for questioning the odd figure.

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