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merchant9
post Jul 4 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jul 4 2017, 09:47 AM)
choose the best MBA offered. you only gonna do 1 MBA in your life.

MBA boost your career by making you more knowledgeable and see thing from all perspective.
Thus you in hope you can manage better; and the paper cert is kind of proof you have done the study.
But end of the day, it is still depend on your commitment to career, to your boss, and company you work with...
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Yes, I am least worry about career commitments. We come from a very specific background and I am hoping an MBA will broaden my horizon to see things differently than what I know limitedly now.

Anyone with experience with MBA courses offered in Inti with Wollongong, Segi with USQ?
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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Jul 4 2017, 08:49 AM)
Very informative thread but too long to read some of the dispute. Here's my dilemma so hopefully someone with experience can advise.

I am in my late 30s, holding a mid level managerial role. I am planning to do MBA, preferably one with accredition and support from EPF Account 2 withdrawals.

I am thinking to do MBA to help boost my career, I think it would. Why? Because I feel to move up in upper management, Degree may not be enough, especially one with average result.

I plan to do MBA part time as I am working with family commitments. I am currently looking at HELP MBA Online course, but need some comments. Other options for online distance learning works for me too as long as accredited minimally locally.

Appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
I note your message above has words like 'feel', 'maybe', etc. This usually means you have not put in enough thought in your decision making. Let me see if I can be of assistance to you.

In general there are 2 types of degree qualified employees: Management and Specialists/Subject Matter Experts. Both have equal earning potential. You need to first know which category you fit into.

If you want your career to head towards upper management, then doing a MBA program (from a reputable business school) would be a tremendous help. But if u are a SME, then doing a MBA doesn't quite give you or your organisation an advantage. Many ppl fall into this category where their job function / career aspirations are geared towards being a SME but they do a MBA thinking that will propel them immediately into upper management. This usually results in disappointment for the individual because many companies regard MBA's as 'good to have but not something we will pay you for' especially when it brings no distinct advantage to the company.

We must remember that a MBA does not function like a degree. A degree is very specific to a particular field and usually gets you a job in that particular field of study while a MBA is general management. MBA's are called 'career enhancers' for those seeking a pathway to senior management but it can also have zero effect as we have seen in many cases.

There are also hybrid MBA programmes. A good example is the MIT Malaysia Global SCALE Network, Institute of Supply Chain in Shah Alam, Malaysia. Their Masters programme is in essence a MBA programme based on the MIT Sloan Business School curriculum but with a very specialised focus in Supply Chain Management. MIT's Supply Chain Management is regarded as the best in the world currently beating even Harvard.

So to answer your question, you need to consider a few factors:

1) Your current job scope & position in your company
2) Where do you feel your career is heading to currently
3) Where do you want your career to head to (clear goal setting is important)
4) How do you think a MBA program would benefit the company ure working for
5) What does you company think of your future career pathway if you have a MBA
6) The quality of your MBA programme (is it top tier or just average)

At the end of the day, whatever education you have must have a ROI either in salary increases or personal business enhancement (for those running their own business).

And as ive said before, ive seen many more professionals who have NOT benefited from their MBA degrees than those who actually have. If I were you, I wouldn't bother doing any online MBA course as such courses don't hold much weight.

The Top 3 MBA programmes in Malaysia currently are:

1) Asia School of Business in partnership with MIT Sloan Business School and Bank Negara Malaysia
2) Sunway Lancaster MBA
3) Strathclyde MBA

I wouldn't bother to do any other MBA's in Malaysia.
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post Jul 4 2017, 10:46 AM

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Anyone from Lancaster?
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You will attend classes once every 6-7 weeks in our purpose built Graduate Centre at Sunway University. Classes are run in block mode, whereby you will usually have classes on Thursday and Friday evenings and all day Saturday and Sunday. This is followed by approximately 5 weeks of self-learning when, with the support of the facilitators and interaction with your class peers, you will complete your assignments. Then you will move onto your next module. Class dates are advised well in advance to ensure you can plan your busy schedule of work and personal commitments around pursuing your studies.

so every 6-7 weeks theres classes on Thurs-Sun?

I believe Strathclyde is every 2 weeks Sat - Sun full day, which does seem alot more taxing.
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jul 4 2017, 10:46 AM)
Anyone from Lancaster?

so every 6-7 weeks theres classes on Thurs-Sun?

I believe Strathclyde is every 2 weeks Sat - Sun full day, which does seem alot more taxing.
In any reputable MBA course, the real challenge is not the classes itself but the assignments.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 4 2017, 10:19 AM)
The Top 3 MBA programmes in Malaysia currently are:

1) Asia School of Business in partnership with MIT Sloan Business School and Bank Negara Malaysia
2) Sunway Lancaster MBA
3) Strathclyde MBA

I wouldn't bother to do any other MBA's in Malaysia.
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Yup, but MIT is not cheap, but if you financially ok, why not...

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jul 4 2017, 10:46 AM)
Anyone from Lancaster?

so every 6-7 weeks theres classes on Thurs-Sun?

I believe Strathclyde is every 2 weeks Sat - Sun full day, which does seem alot more taxing.
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Is the taxing part u will learn...
U wont gain much knowledge if is smooth sail...

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 4 2017, 11:36 AM)
In any reputable MBA course, the real challenge is not the classes itself but the assignments.
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Is the assigment AND the exam...
All reputable MBA hv exams...

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post Jul 4 2017, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jul 4 2017, 11:48 AM)
Is the taxing part u will learn...
U wont gain much knowledge if is smooth sail...
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i'm asking as would like to have someone to verify this.
Considerations like these have to be taken into account for a job that travels around alot.
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jul 4 2017, 01:32 PM)
i'm asking as would like to have someone to verify this.
Considerations like these have to be taken into account for a job that travels around alot.
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There will be a week of classes, usually Thurs-Fri night, Sat-Sun full day, and Mon-Tue night. Sometimes Tue no class, depending on the credit hours.

On top of that, we have one or two workshops on other Saturdays, again depending on the credit hours.

If you travel a lot, there will be give and take for your job and studies, no matter which program you decided to take smile.gif
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jul 4 2017, 01:32 PM)
i'm asking as would like to have someone to verify this.
Considerations like these have to be taken into account for a job that travels around alot.
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Strathclyde is normally 2x to 3x weekend per subject per semester.
You can adjust the number of subjects per sems.


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post Jul 5 2017, 03:47 PM

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check out Inti - Coventry's MBA. One of the cheaper MBAs yet still widely recognized. Fully assignment based and no exams.

Classes on weekday nights + a weekend daytime as well (Part time 2-3 classes a week only each is 4 hours).

their campus is in Subang Jaya. I'm about to finish my MBA already (2 yrs part time) and learnt tons from it.

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on a side note if anyone here is free help me complete my questionnaire k.. for my MBA final thesis: biggrin.gif
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd...kIyrBw/viewform

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post Jul 5 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 5 2017, 03:47 PM)
check out Inti - Coventry's MBA. One of the cheaper MBAs yet still widely recognized. Fully assignment based and no exams.
Widely recognised by whom? And how did you arrive at this conclusion?
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 5 2017, 04:18 PM)
Widely recognised by whom? And how did you arrive at this conclusion?
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Coventry University is ranked 15 in UK for the year 2017:
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/featur...iversities-2017

sorry maybe I used the wrong term "widely recognized". I withdrew what I just said.

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 5 2017, 04:34 PM)
Coventry University is ranked 15 in UK for the year 2017:
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/featur...iversities-2017

sorry maybe I used the wrong term "widely recognized". I withdrew what I just said.
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Actually this is university rank, if you check for engineering, art or medical etc, the list is valid.

Norm for business school ala MBA, they use other ranking list as some business school dont cover general education course.
Example INSEAD, SMU and Kellogg are a pure business school.

These are main golden 3 rank:-
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolranki...ba-ranking-2017
http://www.economist.com/whichmba/full-tim...tid_depth=77644
https://www.ivyexec.com/best-executive-mba-rankings

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post Jul 6 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 5 2017, 04:34 PM)
Coventry University is ranked 15 in UK for the year 2017:
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/featur...iversities-2017

sorry maybe I used the wrong term "widely recognized". I withdrew what I just said.
For MBA programs, you must always compare to the Global Ranking for the associated business schools. Not country based ranking.

As per my earlier comment, the Top 3 MBA programs currently available in Malaysia are:

1) Asia Business School in collaboration with MIT Sloan - business school Global Ranking 13
2) Sunway Lancaster MBA - business school Global Ranking 42
3) Strathclyde MBA - business school Global Ranking 80

I couldn't find Coventry's business school in the 2017 FT Global Top 100. Not sure what rank are they. If I were you, I would have opted for Sunway Lancaster MBA at the very least.
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Coventry University always become the laughing topic for another University in the same neighbourhood. Mind you not only the student does this, even the Professors do it too.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 6 2017, 10:42 AM)
For MBA programs, you must always compare to the Global Ranking for the associated business schools. Not country based ranking.

As per my earlier comment, the Top 3 MBA programs currently available in Malaysia are:

1) Asia Business School in collaboration with MIT Sloan - business school Global Ranking 13
2) Sunway Lancaster MBA - business school Global Ranking 42
3) Strathclyde MBA - business school Global Ranking 80

I couldn't find Coventry's business school in the 2017 FT Global Top 100. Not sure what rank are they. If I were you, I would have opted for Sunway Lancaster MBA at the very least.
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I work in Inti Subang thus is why I took it.. Staff got massive discount thats why. Else I wouldn't pursue it the first place.

Got the MBA cert better than not having it no? In the end depends on budget also.. you wanna pick the top universities then prepare to pay more $$ as well. Either family sponsor or you work high enough to pay for it.
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QUOTE(danny88888 @ Jul 6 2017, 02:36 PM)
Coventry University always become the laughing topic for another University in the same neighbourhood. Mind you not only the student does this, even the Professors do it too.
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I learnt a lot from it and it changed me as a person. I grew up lacking many soft skills due to my dad spending very little time with me in the past + not I'm not a guy who socialize a lot. Not only did I learn how the business world thinks, also how it operates and why.. also read many past and present case studies, did many debates, discussions etc. Even force myself to study the 'finance' subject and manage to get a credit for it. It isn't an easy course and requires good time management as well.

Finally, regardless of your criticism or others, most important is I feel it benefited me (even my classmates agree when I asked all of them). I met some really good lecturers and friends there too. It's the overall journey that matters in the end.. sometimes you cannot depend so much on reviews and rankings but just go for it if you feel it's right.

All MBA courses have a "preview" period too where you can sit in their classes for free and only pay when time is up / you're satisfied with it.

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 6 2017, 02:42 PM)
I work in Inti Subang thus is why I took it.. Staff got massive discount thats why. Else I wouldn't pursue it the first place.

Got the MBA cert better than not having it no? In the end depends on budget also.. you wanna pick the top universities then prepare to pay more $$ as well. Either family sponsor or you work high enough to pay for it.
Not really. MBA's are not like Degrees. Quite often having a useless MBA cert (not saying yours is) is the same as not having one especially since the person has wasted money and time pursuing it when he/she could have done another course which may actually add more value.

The Lancaster MBA programme cost only about 60K which is quite affordable for most mid level employees especially when you can make EPF withdrawals to compensate. But the ROI on your investment is surely much better too (assuming the other factors I mentioned in my earlier post are met).
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Hi..Im Amin...and Im from FTMS college Cyberjaya. We offer UK MBA collaboration with Anglia Ruskin University. ARU is well known for its 38th best University in UK. MQA/JPA accredited by Ministry of Higher Education.
Affordable fees - RM31K
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contact me for details : 0132208402
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QUOTE(Amiali @ Jul 10 2017, 10:29 AM)
Hi..Im Amin...and Im from FTMS college Cyberjaya. We offer UK MBA collaboration with Anglia Ruskin University. ARU is well known for its 38th best University in UK. MQA/JPA accredited by Ministry of Higher Education.
Affordable fees - RM31K
No exam - (Assignments & presentation based)
96% of passing rate
one a month class.
contact me for details : 0132208402
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Appreciate if you keep the thread clean by not putting up advertisements.
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QUOTE(Amiali @ Jul 10 2017, 10:29 AM)
No exam - (Assignments & presentation based)
96% of passing rate
one a month class.
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From academic and self learning POV, isnt this a red flag...??

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