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goodchong
post Sep 28 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Sep 23 2016, 11:56 PM)
I would agree with the other posts that only the top ranking universities' MBA's would really make any substantial difference to your career.  You have to remember that from a time when only a few universities offered MBAs to a time now when almost every university has an MBA course, including online universities.  Basically, they are a dime a dozen.

Unless, you qualify from top ranked universities and the only one I know in South East Asia which in that category is INSEAD branch in Singapore, you will not see much difference in your career.  I know of a Vietnamese girl who worked as an IT personnel in Singapore for a number of years.  She then applied to University of Pennslyvania, Wharton to do their MBA (its ranked around top 4 in the world according to 2016 Financial Times ranking) and borrowed almost US$300,000 from Wharton university as a loan to do that MBA.  Luckily, she completed the course and is now looking for a job in USA.  She estimates that with a Wharton MBA, she should be able to pay off that loan in a few years.

So, try and see if you can go that route.  I believe that most of the top MBA universities in USA have special loan programmes for applicants who qualify for them (based on means test and academic ability).  She was from a lower middle class background in Vietnam and was self sponsored from her savings and loan from Wharton.  She did not want to do her MBA in Singapore because after checking all the facts out, she said that it was not worth spending thousands of dollars for an MBA from a university which is not ranked top 10 MBAs in the world.  Return from lesser ranked MBA universities did not justify the cost.
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you make it sound so easy to enter a top school such as Wharton business school
by the way, that's over a million ringgit for the investment, hopefully she can recoup her investment.

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post Sep 28 2016, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(goodchong @ Sep 28 2016, 10:59 AM)
you make it sound so easy to enter a top school such as Wharton business school
by the way, that's over a million ringgit for the investment, hopefully she can recoup her investment.
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Its not easy but its doable. As long as you get good scores for the entrance exams, then its possible. I understand she took a few times before finally succeeding into entering Wharton MBA. Good bonus is that she can stay on to work in USA and with her Wharton MBA, she has very good prospect. I don't think she will every be returning to Singapore or Vietnam.
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post Oct 5 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Sep 28 2016, 01:14 PM)
Its not easy but its doable.  As long as you get good scores for the entrance exams, then its possible.  I understand she took a few times before finally succeeding into entering Wharton MBA.  Good bonus is that she can stay on to work in USA and with her Wharton MBA, she has very good prospect.  I don't think she will every be returning to Singapore or Vietnam.
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top business schools usually take a holistic approach in reviewing candidate application, since tens of thousands of student applying for a very limited placement in the program.
Thus, not only you should score well in your GMAT (>750), you also need to have a proven track record such as graduated from renowned university, good GPA as well as relevant job experience.

This post has been edited by goodchong: Oct 11 2016, 09:26 AM
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post Oct 19 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(goodchong @ Oct 5 2016, 10:26 AM)
top business schools usually take a holistic approach in reviewing candidate application, since tens of thousands of student applying for a very limited placement in the program.
Thus, not only you should score well in your GMAT (>750), you also need to have a proven track record such as graduated from renowned university, good GPA as well as relevant job experience.
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why do people take MBA? what does the MBA teach you? does it matter which uni the MBA is from?
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post Oct 19 2016, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(kelmarin @ Oct 19 2016, 11:35 AM)
why do people take MBA? what does the MBA teach you? does it matter which uni the MBA is from?
Your questions are too general.

There are many articles online which will explain in detail. I suggest you read them first.

I also suggest you read my historical posts on this thread to get an idea.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 19 2016, 11:43 AM
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post Oct 20 2016, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Sep 28 2016, 01:14 PM)
Its not easy but its doable.  As long as you get good scores for the entrance exams, then its possible.  I understand she took a few times before finally succeeding into entering Wharton MBA.  Good bonus is that she can stay on to work in USA and with her Wharton MBA, she has very good prospect.  I don't think she will every be returning to Singapore or Vietnam.
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since U are in touch with this Viet lady perhaps you can share the stats here.

Top uni usually takes a holistic approach... at times family background plays a roles plus donations! Bush is one example.
http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=28826

its not doable if someone did poorly for their Bach degree, Taxi driver and score 790 on GMAT.
doable yes but really depends on the portfolio you bring to the table.
Being a Wharton Grad just means can work in USA, not automatically granted work status to stay in USA.

There are alot of MBA grades from Top Uni. There are many doing part time MBA looking for the next Golden Door too.
another note MBA holders are not in the bucket of needed professionals in USA, ppl with Masters degree can apply for H1B under Masters advanced degree exemption but their OPT is just limited to 1 yr, unlike those with a Masters of Sci can obtain OPT extension of 18mths.

To get h1B still subjected to lottery system if too many ppl apply, if you have an offer without securing a VISA you are still going home.

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post Oct 20 2016, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Oct 20 2016, 02:01 AM)
since U are in touch with this Viet lady perhaps you can share the stats here.

Top uni usually takes a holistic approach... at times family background plays a roles plus donations! Bush is one example.
http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=28826

its not doable if someone did poorly for their Bach degree, Taxi driver and score 790 on GMAT.
doable yes but really depends on the portfolio you bring to the table.
Being a Wharton Grad just means can work in USA, not automatically granted work status to stay in USA.

There are alot of MBA grades from Top Uni. There are many doing part time MBA looking for the next Golden Door too.
another note MBA holders are not in the bucket of needed professionals in USA, ppl with Masters degree can apply for H1B under Masters advanced degree exemption but their OPT is just limited to 1 yr, unlike those with a Masters of Sci can obtain OPT extension of 18mths.

To get h1B still subjected to lottery system if too many ppl apply, if you have an offer without securing a VISA you are still going home.
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Maybe just to add on:

Top universities such as Harvard, Stanford, Wharton takes the MBA ranking very seriously. Those that they accepted have been screened thoroughly to ensure they are proper ambassador to their brand. To preserve the prestige, they take only the best (either established or with connection). Hence Fortune500 companies have no problem hiring them as they most likely qualified in the first place. In fact, these companies will probably conduct their recruitment in these universities first. The university will ensure that the students get into a good place after graduation to continue the alumni cycle.

Work may not be guaranteed there but still stands higher chance than any other country such as UK. UK is even more xenophobic. Although, I agree that US place more importance for automatic extension to those studying in advance engineering fields such as computer science and IT.
Speaking of taxi driver, both the Grab founder are Harvard MBA grad.

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post Oct 20 2016, 03:30 PM

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Is this the most worth and valuable university for MBA course to take from?
http://rankings.ft.com/exportranking/globa...anking-2016/pdf

Currently planning to proceed with MBA and plan to be done in UK. Currently i will work until full 1 year of working experience then only apply for MBA.

Any suggestion?
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post Oct 20 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(saikit25 @ Oct 20 2016, 03:30 PM)
Is this the most worth and valuable university for MBA course to take from?
http://rankings.ft.com/exportranking/globa...anking-2016/pdf

Currently planning to proceed with MBA and plan to be done in UK. Currently i will work until full 1 year of working experience then only apply for MBA.

Any suggestion?
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Yup. This is business school ranking which is correct reference if you want to refer for MBA.

This and another list is the standard reference list. I forgot the name of the other list.
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post Oct 20 2016, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 20 2016, 05:33 PM)
Yup. This is business school ranking which is correct reference if you want to refer for MBA.

This and another list is the standard reference list. I forgot the name of the other list.
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I see thanks, any chances anyone here got another list for the top mba university?
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QUOTE(saikit25 @ Oct 20 2016, 05:56 PM)
I see thanks, any chances anyone here got another list for the top mba university?
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http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolranki...ba-ranking-2016
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post Oct 21 2016, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(kiawin @ Oct 20 2016, 06:46 PM)
Thanks mate =D
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(saikit25 @ Oct 21 2016, 09:24 AM)
Thanks mate =D
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All sites have different methodology but FT is normally the go to to for MBA

Some sites such as FT and Economist don't differentiate by region

QS and Bloomberg recognize the the regional differences.

Generally, US MBA have higher recognition grade due to the employer's preference

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post Oct 21 2016, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Oct 21 2016, 11:00 AM)
All sites have different methodology but FT is normally the go to to for MBA

Some sites such as FT and Economist don't differentiate by region

QS and Bloomberg recognize the the regional differences.

Generally, US MBA have higher recognition grade due to the employer's preference
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Oh i see... US syllabus of MBA and its cert is better is it what u mean? Any recommendation for university in UK for that? I am still finding and best is not in London because of the higher living cost compare to other suburb.
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post Oct 21 2016, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(saikit25 @ Oct 21 2016, 11:55 AM)
Oh i see... US syllabus of MBA and its cert is better is it what u mean? Any recommendation for university in UK for that? I am still finding and best is not in London because of the higher living cost compare to other suburb.
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Many factors but US syllabus tends to be more general than the UK/European counterpart. Normally require 2 years in the campus. Furthermore, US MNCs have more MBA related career program for MBA graduates. It's harder to find job in UK rather than US with the MBA.

Another important reason to study MBA is due to the networking opportunities. This is why London Business School is preferred over Oxford Said for example. I don't think people in London willing to take 1 hour plus train journey to Oxford to study.

For recommendation, follow the ranking.
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post Oct 21 2016, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Oct 21 2016, 03:02 PM)
Many factors but US syllabus tends to be more general than the UK/European counterpart. Normally require 2 years in the campus. Furthermore, US MNCs have more MBA related career program for MBA graduates. It's harder to find job in UK rather than US with the MBA.

Another important reason to study MBA is due to the networking opportunities. This is why London Business School is preferred over Oxford Said for example. I don't think people in London willing to take 1 hour plus train journey to Oxford to study.

For recommendation, follow the ranking.
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post Oct 21 2016, 04:06 PM

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Going back to networking, if u study in oversea, u may not able to gain ur network mba cohort.

Personally i found that the longer years of working experience (5-15 years) the more is gain from MBA due pratical experience you learn from day to day incident.
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post Oct 24 2016, 10:06 AM

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There are 2 mba fair coming soon...time to go for have a look and survey..

http://www.topmba.com/events/qs-world-mba-...Vt3ChoCvlrw_wcB

https://www.idp.com/malaysia/studyabroad/events
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post Oct 27 2016, 12:11 AM

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Hey guys, I've been reading back the past 20 pages and have come to a summary that most ppl here perceive MBA as only for networking (correct me if I am wrong but i say this out of complete ignorance) and it is kinda pointless if its not the top tier MBA. I recently receive an offer letter to Monash malaysia MBA and already starting to have second thoughts on accepting the offer.
Anyways, can anybody from non top tier MBA grads tell/enlighten me whats are the job prospects like after MBA in Malaysia. Do you regret the decision? or was it a good investment?
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QUOTE(chinaman888 @ Oct 27 2016, 12:11 AM)
Hey guys, I've been reading back the past 20 pages and have come to a summary that most ppl here perceive MBA as only for networking (correct me if I am wrong but i say this out of complete ignorance) and it is kinda pointless if its not the top tier MBA. I recently receive an offer letter to Monash malaysia MBA and already starting to have second thoughts on accepting the offer.
Anyways, can anybody from non top tier MBA grads tell/enlighten me whats are the job prospects like after MBA in Malaysia. Do you regret the decision? or was it a good investment?
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Networking just part of the package.
It's the knowledge and learning experience gain during the course that make you a better person.

Guessing job prospect upon MBA is similar as guessing job prospect upon completion of your 1st university certification. The facts are there are no guarantee on new job prospect upon finish MBA, it just make u a better person and more academic qualify...

There is a high chance that the course content are better QA and prepared if its from top tier school therfore its recommend to go for top tier school. You probabily will only do one MBA once in life time and will not willing to repeat the study effort again.

Also having a better "brand" MBA will give public a perception you are "better educated" for able to complete the course thus increase your value in market...

HTH

This post has been edited by chamelion: Oct 27 2016, 05:11 AM

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