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post Jan 27 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(edahani @ Jan 27 2015, 12:00 PM)
Yes I am representing CDC. And yes, Strathclyde MBA is still here (it's been 26 years now & counting!), managed by CDC.
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Would appreciate if you could PM me with further details of the program. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 27 2015, 02:05 PM

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Would appreciate if you could PM me with further details of the program.  biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 11:43 AM

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Well of course. PMed you smile.gif

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post Jan 28 2015, 11:59 AM

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It seems like the 'Malaysia' has been removed from the Manchester Business School website as one of the global destinations. The MBS-MBA is also no longer reflected on the main Sunway University website, what can be found is the Lancaster MBA only.

Has the partnership been discontinued? Is the MBS MBA still available in Malaysia?
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@DT1,
I'm not a 100% sure but I think it's been discontinued - hence the website no longer shows the availability of the course?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 28 2015, 02:20 PM)
@DT1,
I'm not a 100% sure but I think it's been discontinued - hence the website no longer shows the availability of the course?
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Hmm, if that's really the case I guess Strathclyde @ CDC will be a beneficiary then, since it's the next best in line based on rankings, placed before Monash, Nottingham and Sydney U @ Inti. Did I miss out any?

I'm not in the market for an MBA yet, but planning my available choices at the moment, although the landscape should change a couple of years later with new players coming in.

Rankings aside, in you opinion which are the premier ones that attracts the local MNC and IB crowd?

This post has been edited by DT1: Jan 28 2015, 04:51 PM
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post Jan 29 2015, 11:51 AM

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post Jan 29 2015, 03:15 PM

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I'm looking for MBA course offered by local or private uni college, provides opportunity to spend a semester or two at the HQ campus in UK.  does anyone know any uni?
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Hi there

Strathclyde MBA does offer this. You may choose to study your elective subjects either in the University's main campus in UK, or any other international centres (there are 9 altogether).

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post Feb 3 2015, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jan 28 2015, 04:30 PM)
Hmm, if that's really the case I guess Strathclyde @ CDC will be a beneficiary then, since it's the next best in line based on rankings, placed before Monash, Nottingham and Sydney U @ Inti. Did I miss out any?

I'm not in the market for an MBA yet, but planning my available choices at the moment, although the landscape should change a couple of years later with new players coming in.

Rankings aside, in you opinion which are the premier ones that attracts the local MNC and IB crowd?
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Only two MBA offered in Malaysia is in world top 100 - Strathclyde and Lancaster, which is ranked 50th in the latest 2015 FT ranking.

This post has been edited by turbopips: Feb 3 2015, 12:09 AM
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post Feb 3 2015, 12:42 AM

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Only two MBA offered in Malaysia is in world top 100 - Strathclyde and Lancaster, which is ranked 50th in the latest 2015 FT ranking.
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I've tabulated the data based on free data from four prominent rankings, ie. THE, QS, ARWU and FT.

THE World 2014-2015

Monash - 83
Lancaster - 131
Nottingham - 171
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

QS World 2014/2015

Monash - 70
Nottingham - 77
Lancaster - 160
Strathclyde - 246

ARWU World 2014

Monash - 101-150
Nottingham - 101-150
Lancaster - 300-400
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

ARWU (by Social Science) 2014

Monash - 76-100
Nottingham - 101-150
Lancaster - 151-200
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

FT - Global MBA 2015

Lancaster - 50
Strathclyde - 80
Monash - Not on the list
Nottingham - Not on the list

FT - Global MBM 2015

Strathclyde - 43
Lancaster - 62
Monash - Not on the list
Nottingham - Not on the list


If we were to base on the rankings alone should give more weighting to Lancaster, as compared to Strathclyde.

Also, not sure why Monash and Nottingham programmes are not on the FT list, but based on overall global visibility of the universities they could potentially be the winners here compared to all others.

It then boils down to personal preference, for example requirement for full time or part time (e.g. Monash does not currently provide part time course, but will do so in the near future - as mentioned in the website).

Also boils down to the class profile and location.

What I'm attempting to portray here is that the rankings don't provide the full story, so you can't put too much emphasis on it, but take it as one of the variables for consideration.

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QUOTE(edahani @ Jan 29 2015, 03:15 PM)
Hi there

Strathclyde MBA does offer this. You may choose to study your elective subjects either in the University's main campus in UK, or any other international centres (there are 9 altogether).

Thanks

Regards, Edahani
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Hi, how long is the electives module if someone wants to do it at UK?
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post Feb 3 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Feb 3 2015, 12:42 AM)
THE World 2014-2015

Monash - 83
Lancaster - 131
Nottingham - 171
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

QS World 2014/2015

Monash - 70
Nottingham - 77
Lancaster - 160
Strathclyde - 246

ARWU World 2014

Monash - 101-150
Nottingham - 101-150
Lancaster - 300-400
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

FT - Global MBA 2015

Lancaster - 50
Strathclyde - 80
Monash - Not on the list
Nottingham - Not on the list


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Could you provide the link to show the MBA ranking for THE and QS? These are the popular university rankings provider but I am not sure if they they provide the rankings for MBA globally as I am keen to know the criteria they used.

QS for example only ranked MBA schools by region and not globally, and their criteria seems only focus at GMAT score OR average years work OR tuition fees which i felt irrelevant to compare with. Maybe i am looking at the wrong link hence would be great if you could share the link.
Times Higher Education (THE) does not ranked university by MBA too, but only in general. Again i may not be looking at the right url link.

So far, the most reliable and consistent MBA ranking source provider i see so far is the Financial times.
Nottingham MBA was ranked 100th in FT during 2009 with an average 3 years as 90th position. As FT only displays the top 100, it could be a reason that Nottingham had dropped out from the top 100 list after 2009.
No idea on Monash ranking though.

Agree ranking alone cant provide the full story but by looking at its criteria and scores of the criteria it may help a person to do a better judgement.

This post has been edited by turbopips: Feb 3 2015, 04:34 PM
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Could you provide the link to show the MBA ranking for THE and QS? These are the popular university rankings provider but I am not sure if they they provide the rankings for MBA globally as I am keen to know the criteria they used.

QS for example only ranked MBA schools by region and not globally, and their criteria seems only focus at GMAT score OR average years work OR tuition fees which i felt irrelevant to compare with. Maybe i am looking at the wrong link hence would be great if you could share the link.
Times Higher Education (THE) does not ranked university by MBA too, but only in general. Again i may not be looking at the right url link.

So far, the most reliable and consistent MBA ranking source provider i see so far is the Financial times.
Nottingham MBA was ranked 100th in FT during 2009 with an average 3 years as 90th position. As FT only displays the top 100, it could be a reason that Nottingham had dropped out from the top 100 list after 2009.
No idea on Monash ranking though.

Agree ranking alone cant provide the full story but by looking at its criteria and scores of the criteria it may help a person to do a better judgement.
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I am not too sure if THE and QS provide MBA rankings. They might provide rankings based on social science. But the free ones are the World (general) ones, which is not specific.

What I'm trying to bring up here is that overall perception of the university might be even more important than MBA rankings (will have to verify with HR personnel of a few MNCs to get a better idea).

For example, getting a Monash/Nottingham MBA might be better than getting one from Strathclyde, if middle-and-top management attaches a higher-brand value to it due to perception. Brand value = perception of quality.

These are just some pointers for consideration, and are by no means a judgement, apologies in advance to brand marketers like edahani. The person getting the MBA will need to do their homework. Also, it is not my turn to get one yet, and the market will definitely change in a couple of years time, so I'll have to do my own homework again by then.

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Feb 3 2015, 12:42 AM)
I've tabulated the data based on free data from four prominent rankings, ie. THE, QS, ARWU and FT.

THE World 2014-2015

Monash - 83
Lancaster - 131
Nottingham - 171
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

QS World 2014/2015

Monash - 70
Nottingham - 77
Lancaster - 160
Strathclyde - 246

ARWU World 2014

Monash - 101-150
Nottingham - 101-150
Lancaster - 300-400
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

ARWU (by Social Science) 2014

Monash - 76-100
Nottingham - 101-150
Lancaster - 151-200
Strathclyde - Not on the list - could mean did not participate in ranking.

FT - Global MBA 2015

Lancaster - 50
Strathclyde - 80
Monash - Not on the list
Nottingham - Not on the list

FT - Global MBM 2015

Strathclyde - 43
Lancaster - 62
Monash - Not on the list
Nottingham - Not on the list
If we were to base on the rankings alone should give more weighting to Lancaster, as compared to Strathclyde.

Also, not sure why Monash and Nottingham programmes are not on the FT list, but based on overall global visibility of the universities they could potentially be the winners here compared to all others.

It then boils down to personal preference, for example requirement for full time or part time (e.g. Monash does not currently provide part time course, but will do so in the near future - as mentioned in the website).

Also boils down to the class profile and location.

What I'm attempting to portray here is that the rankings don't provide the full story, so you can't put too much emphasis on it, but take it as one of the variables for consideration.
Dont forget that the Lancaster MBA program offered by Sunway differs slightly from the MBA offered in Lankaster. The program here in Malaysia isnt triple accredited. Sunway misleads ppl into thinking that the program is triple accedited.

Anyway the best MBA program in the region is the INSEAD MBA offered in Singapore. But it also costs a bomb.
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Feb 3 2015, 05:47 PM)
I am not too sure if THE and QS provide MBA rankings. They might provide rankings based on social science. But the free ones are the World (general) ones, which is not specific.

What I'm trying to bring up here is that overall perception of the university might be even more important than MBA rankings (will have to verify with HR personnel of a few MNCs to get a better idea).

For example, getting a Monash/Nottingham MBA might be better than getting one from Strathclyde, if middle-and-top management attaches a higher-brand value to it due to perception. Brand value = perception of quality.

These are just some pointers for consideration, and are by no means a judgement, apologies in advance to brand marketers like edahani. The person getting the MBA will need to do their homework. Also, it is not my turn to get one yet, and the market will definitely change in a couple of years time, so I'll have to do my own homework again by then.
You need to be clear as to why you want to do an MBA. Many of those who take MBA programs do so without any forward planning as to why they wanna do an MBA or what they hope to gain from it. DOnt just take an MBA for the sake of getting a piece of paper. The working world doesnt just recognise a piece of paper (unless its from Harvard or any of those Top 10 MBA's). The recognition from the working world has to go hand in hand with you as an individual.

A MBA is not like a degree whereby you need one in order to practice in your respective fields. So unless you have a clear picture of where or who you want to be in the future, the MBA may not be for you.

Also keep in mind that MBA's are usually for those between 25-30 with about 8 yrs experience. Beyond that, an MBA may not be suitable as the modules are catered for those seeking to move horizontally e.g changing industries, career paths, etc. For those with more than 10 yrs experience, going down the path of an Executive MBA is more suited as it gears you to move up the ladder into senior management roles.

The biggest draw for any MBA program is actually the alumni network. In fact, if you speak to any of the alumni from the top business schools, ull see that they will rank alumni networking as their No 1 take away from the program.
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You need to be clear as to why you want to do an MBA. Many of those who take MBA programs do so without any forward planning as to why they wanna do an MBA or what they hope to gain from it. DOnt just take an MBA for the sake of getting a piece of paper. The working world doesnt just recognise a piece of paper (unless its from Harvard or any of those Top 10 MBA's). The recognition from the working world has to go hand in hand with you as an individual.

A MBA is not like a degree whereby you need one in order to practice in your respective fields. So unless you have a clear picture of where or who you want to be in the future, the MBA may not be for you.

Also keep in mind that MBA's are usually for those between 25-30 with about 8 yrs experience. Beyond that, an MBA may not be suitable as the modules are catered for those seeking to move horizontally e.g changing industries, career paths, etc. For those with more than 10 yrs experience, going down the path of an Executive MBA is more suited as it gears you to move up the ladder into senior management roles.

The biggest draw for any MBA program is actually the alumni network. In fact, if you speak to any of the alumni from the top business schools, ull see that they will rank alumni networking as their No 1 take away from the program.
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Very well said.

I believe in my personal capacity that most do not understand why they need an MBA or the perks that comes from it.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 4 2015, 08:33 AM)
You need to be clear as to why you want to do an MBA. Many of those who take MBA programs do so without any forward planning as to why they wanna do an MBA or what they hope to gain from it. DOnt just take an MBA for the sake of getting a piece of paper. The working world doesnt just recognise a piece of paper (unless its from Harvard or any of those Top 10 MBA's). The recognition from the working world has to go hand in hand with you as an individual.

A MBA is not like a degree whereby you need one in order to practice in your respective fields. So unless you have a clear picture of where or who you want to be in the future, the MBA may not be for you.

Also keep in mind that MBA's are usually for those between 25-30 with about 8 yrs experience. Beyond that, an MBA may not be suitable as the modules are catered for those seeking to move horizontally e.g changing industries, career paths, etc. For those with more than 10 yrs experience, going down the path of an Executive MBA is more suited as it gears you to move up the ladder into senior management roles.

The biggest draw for any MBA program is actually the alumni network. In fact, if you speak to any of the alumni from the top business schools, ull see that they will rank alumni networking as their No 1 take away from the program.
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Yeap, that's a very good point. The person, even myself, might not need one years down the road.

Do you happen to know which ones locally have the 'best' alumni? Or which one is regarded by the HR dept of MNCs as priority screening?
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Feb 4 2015, 09:30 AM)
Yeap, that's a very good point. The person, even myself, might not need one years down the road.

Do you happen to know which ones locally have the 'best' alumni? Or which one is regarded by the HR dept of MNCs as priority screening?
Personally in Malaysia, i have yet to come across any big companies giving high regard to Malaysian MBA degree holders. It can be used for personal development but i have yet to see someone actually progressing up the ladder cuz of a MBA. I work for a big MNC and MBA's here arent highly regarded which is why i have not pursued one.

Axiata is the biggest hirer of MBA holders from INSEAD here in Malaysia. They have many development programs run by INSEAD for their staff:
http://www.axiata.com/investor-relations/2...-future-leaders

Schlumberger is another MNC that takes many INSEAD MBA holders. They also take in many Supply Chain masters degree holders from the MIT MISI Malaysia program.
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Hi, how long is the electives module if someone wants to do it at UK?
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Hi there

Each elective subject takes a week of classes in UK, around 4-5hrs a day, Mon-Fri (3 days, Fri-Sun, in international centres: Singapore, Malaysia, Dubai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Oman, Greece, Switzerland, Hong Kong).

There are 2 elective subjects to be chosen and you may combine the option (doing 1 in UK, 1 in other centres, etc.)

Also, upon graduation, students are given privilege to choose 3 more elective subjects (maximum one per year, depending on availability) without any extra cost (except for air ticket & lodging of course)


Regards, edahani
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Can anyone pls let me know is that all the MBA requires the working experience?
As I'm fresh graduate and do not have any working experience. I plan to continue further my study.


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