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cybermaster98
post Feb 11 2015, 02:18 PM

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Key differences between MBA and Executive MBA programs in general:

http://www.rutgers.edu.sg/emba-program/exe...l-timepart-time

Also keep in mind the specialisation of the MBA you intend to take. Modules can be similar but content will differ:
http://www.topmba.com/mba-programs/top-fiv...ons-infographic


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post Feb 11 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 11 2015, 02:18 PM)
Key differences between MBA and Executive MBA programs in general:

http://www.rutgers.edu.sg/emba-program/exe...l-timepart-time

Also keep in mind the specialisation of the MBA you intend to take. Modules can be similar but content will differ:
http://www.topmba.com/mba-programs/top-fiv...ons-infographic
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I did asked him about the programme certification is EMBA or MBA in my inquiry. You can ask him for answer.
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post Feb 11 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 11 2015, 01:58 PM)
Nah ive got my answer even before this. I just need him to provide a simple yes or no answer to the 2 queries. Simple enough.
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post Feb 11 2015, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kiawin @ Feb 11 2015, 04:05 PM)
I did asked him about the programme certification is EMBA or MBA in my inquiry. You can ask him for answer.
The program here in Sunway is only the MBA not the EMBA.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 11 2015, 05:11 PM)
The program here in Sunway is only the MBA not the EMBA.
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How do we distinguish the difference between a MBA and EMBA? smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:40 PM

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Currently i'm tried to explore for MBA course in Malaysia.
Anyone who study MBA at Segi University?

How the quality of lecturers and the syllabus there?
Anyone can share?
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:48 PM

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what is the estimated course for MBA in Malaysia?
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post Feb 13 2015, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(dhanin @ Feb 12 2015, 05:48 PM)
what is the estimated course for MBA in Malaysia?
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post Feb 13 2015, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(ProfBrian @ Feb 13 2015, 12:54 PM)
The word "executive" in front of an MBA in the UK context only refer ti it being part time. It is a term utilised solely for marketing purposes amd has no reference to content. In the UK, and certainly at Lancaster University, all graduates receive an MBA degree certificate (i.e. NOT an Executive, Global, Global Executive or Full-time MBA).
Are you sure the term 'executive' only refers to it being part time? We also have part time MBA programs which do not have the word 'executive' in front.

Im fairly certain that there could be major differences if not there wont be a reason for Exec MBA programs to be priced significantly higher than normal MBA's. Are you sure the content is exactly the same between the two? I have compared the modules offered by INSEAD for their MBA and EMBA programs and there are differences even with the electives.

Can you verify the key differences as mentioned below:

http://www.rutgers.edu.sg/emba-program/exe...l-timepart-time





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post Feb 13 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(ProfBrian @ Feb 13 2015, 01:39 PM)
If you take careful note...I said in the UK this is how it works. These prefixes are all marketing terms. Within Malaysia  the MQA does not allow utilisation of these prefixes on programmes delivered by Fully-fledged universities such as Sunway University. You will need to ask them why...but I suspect it is due to the confusion that has been created by these titles.

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So do you mean that outside the UK/Malaysia or besides UK based MBA programs, other Executive MBA programs could very well have differences compared to normal MBA programs as mentioned in the link I provided?
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post Feb 13 2015, 08:07 PM

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[quote=ProfBrian,Feb 13 2015, 01:06 PM]
[quote=cybermaster98,Feb 9 2015, 01:20 PM]
Agreed with your comments on 2 fronts e.g the accredition of the business school and the fact that Lancaster has now overtaken Strathclyde on the rankings.

In regards ti the comment to Lancaster University MBA now overtaking Strathclyde in the rankings let me make a slight correction. The suite of Lancaster University MBAs have CONSISTENTLY outranked any other MBA you can access in Malaysia (i.e. including Strathclyde's MBA). Rankings do vary from year to year...with Lancaster being a clear winner this year. What is more important however is the long term. On every ranking I have seen Lancaster has over time out ranked Strathclyde on a 3 year rolling average basis. Indeed, the premier Financial times reports his in their rankings.

Visit www.sunway.edu.my/mba for more details to access this leading MBA programme.

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Hi Prof Brian

With all due respect, I'm certain the ranking you're referring to is the FT Global MBA Ranking 2015 which was recently announced, and yes, Lancaster has improved on the ranking this year (congratulations!). However I believe that this ranking refers to the university's full time programme in UK, and does not at all reflect the programme in Malaysia. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If we are really talking about the ranking to compare fairly it should be based on the FT Executive MBA Ranking (part time MBA) which is yet to be announced for 2015. As for 2014, Strathclyde is at 64, compared to Lancaster which was not listed (of course as the programme is newly introduced in MY).

Anyways, ranking can be very subjective, depending on the body and method it is conducted. It still comes down to the quality of the programme and the strength of the students/network. Strathclyde has been around for 26 years in MY, making us the oldest thriving MBA programme in MY.

Cheers!

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post Feb 18 2015, 02:56 PM

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Hi All, i looking forward to do my MBA in local Universities around KL. I am from klang and working in KL. Intend to do part time MBA or is there like Online MBA. I always want to go UM for my postgrad studies. Please advise on the cost, duration and other important things that need to be considered.
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QUOTE(ProfBrian @ Feb 18 2015, 04:53 PM)
There is a large number of MBAs offered in Klang Valley.  In my view however, noting that I am Associate Dean (Postgraduate) at Sunway University, you should seriously consider the following selection criteria:
(a) Is it a genuine MBA as defined by the Association of MBAs (AMBA). UM, Lancaster University (available @ Sunway University) and selected other MBAs are. Most are not.

(b) Is it triple accredited by AACSB, EQUIS, and AMBA. This is independent quality accreditation that is your assurance of quality. The Sunway University MBA Dual Award Programme, with Lancaster University, gives you a triple accredited MBA.

© Is it internationally recognised? Lancaster University is a top 1% university and has a leading MBA. In the recent 2015 Financial Times Global MBA ranking Lancaster came 50th in the world. No other MBA came close


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Any similar verifications from the good people at CDC-Strathclyde?

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Feb 18 2015, 04:59 PM)
Any similar verifications from the good people at CDC-Strathclyde?
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Hi everyone!

Yes, agreed with what was written by Prof Brian from Sunway/Lancaster. Those are some of the important criteria one should check when planning for an MBA study.

For those who are new to this topic, let me introduce myself, I am Edahani and I am representing CDC Management on this forum, which is the study centre for Strathclyde MBA programme in Malaysia.

Certainly Strathclyde MBA do share the same criteria as stated - being ranked in the top 100 world best MBA by Financial Times, and most importantly, globally recognised with triple accreditations (AMBA, AACSB & EQUIS).

On top of the above, you might want to check on the following as well, which you can find in Strathclyde MBA programme:
1. Royal Charter university
2. Excellent in teaching quality rating
3. Leader in research rating (Strathclyde Business School is 3rd in UK on impact on the recent Research Assessment Exercise)
4. A range of academics of international reputation who also teach
5. Taught face-to-face by the same academics who teach at home (UK campus) - please note at Strathclyde, there's no local/adjunct lecturers, we fly ALL lecturers in from UK. Not many foreign MBA in Malaysia does this.
6. An integrated & intellectually rigorous but practical programme - the programme uses mostly real case studies which are applicable in actual work scenarios.
7. The same entry criteria/assessment as the full time programme in UK
8. The same quality/content & degree as the full time programme in UK. - you will get the same award received by full time students in UK with the option to graduate both in UK & Malaysia. Transcripts are also issued directly by Strathclyde UK.
9. Flexibility - able to tailor the programme to your schedule. You have 2 to 6 years to complete your MBA, at no extra cost!
10. Last but not least, Strathclyde MBA has been in Malaysia for 26 years now, making us the longest thriving MBA you can find in Malaysia.

Feel free to pay us a visit if you have more questions.

Cheers & Gong Xi Fa Cai to all!

Regards, Edahani
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post Feb 19 2015, 01:07 AM

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It seems to get ever more interesting with all these supporting details on the superiority of both the Lancaster and Strathclyde MBAs.

Very informative indeed.

Thanks ProfBrian...
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post Feb 19 2015, 09:35 AM

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Yes interesting indeed. But the key issues that remain regardless of which MBA you do is your own career path, what you hope to benefit from the MBA and your game plan in utilising the MBA to move up the chain. There are many who have done MBA's and not moved up their careers simply because they assumed that getting an MBA gives them that automatic qualification. An MBA on its own (unless maybe its one of the Top 5) in the world, will not provide you with that ability. There are many who have done MBA's and remained stagnant in their careers. People need to realise that a MBA qualification will remain just a piece of paper unless you have clear career goals and possess the knowledge on how to achieve them.

There is a fault in part by the education providers themselves in over-marketing their programs to the extent that students believe that a MBA is a short cut to huge career jumps. You can have the best qualifications in the world but it all comes to nothing if the organisation you intend to work/ currently work for doesn't see value in that. I work for a foreign MNC that generates approx US$50bil in revenue per year and MBA's here are not held in high regard unless ure in Finance. A majority of the top guns in my company do not possess a MBA.

That's why clear planning and setting of career goals are paramount before embarking on the MBA program. Only once you have determined this, should you go about researching which MBA program to sign up for. And yes from my research and the info that Prof Brian has provided, the Lancaster MBA program is currently the best in Malaysia. For those of you who want a truly world class MBA ranked in the Global Top 5, then head over to Singapore for INSEAD or the UCLA-NUS MBA program but be prepared to pay through your nose.
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Well, my company does sponsor employees who want to pursue MBA's along with other Masters programs. But I have yet to see anybody in the organisation who has moved up the chain solely because of the MBA but I have seen colleagues who were disappointed after not seeing the 'rewards' of getting a MBA. No fault of the program the way I see it but mainly the oversight of the individual who thought that doing a MBA gives him/her an automatic qualification to moving up the chain into more senior positions. This was of course aided by MBA program advisors / educators who paint a disjointed picture of MBA programs.

If we read through the various comments of this thread, you can easily spot many of these individuals. They have no idea what a MBA is all about or possess a clear plan of where they want their career to head towards post MBA. That's why there are hundreds who sign up for sub-standard MBA programs in Malaysia instead of going for the best like Lancaster or Strathclyde because all they want is a piece of paper and sadly, that's what it will remain...a piece of paper.

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QUOTE(ProfBrian @ Feb 18 2015, 04:53 PM)
There is a large number of MBAs offered in Klang Valley.  In my view however, noting that I am Associate Dean (Postgraduate) at Sunway University, you should seriously consider the following selection criteria:
(a) Is it a genuine MBA as defined by the Association of MBAs (AMBA). UM, Lancaster University (available @ Sunway University) and selected other MBAs are. Most are not.

(b) Is it triple accredited by AACSB, EQUIS, and AMBA. This is independent quality accreditation that is your assurance of quality. The Sunway University MBA Dual Award Programme, with Lancaster University, gives you a triple accredited MBA.

© Is it internationally recognised? Lancaster University is a top 1% university and has a leading MBA. In the recent 2015 Financial Times Global MBA ranking Lancaster came 50th in the world. No other MBA came close

Regards

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Thank you so much for your info Prof biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ProfBrian @ Feb 13 2015, 12:54 PM)
The word "executive" in front of an MBA in the UK context only refer ti it being part time. It is a term utilised solely for marketing purposes amd has no reference to content. In the UK, and certainly at Lancaster University, all graduates receive an MBA degree certificate (i.e. NOT an Executive, Global, Global Executive or Full-time MBA).

If you have any further queries please feel free ti refer to the FAQ on our web site www.sunway.edu.my/mba or call the MBA direct line on 03-7491 8701

Kind regards
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Hi Prof Brian, thanks for the clarifications.! However, it seems that the newly offered Global MBA programme is not being marketed well enough in the market, or perhaps the market itself is unclear about or doubt with the accreditation part. Need to do more work to place more emphasis on the marketing communication yo!

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QUOTE(koaydarren @ Feb 20 2015, 03:48 AM)
Hi Pro Brian, thanks for the clarifications.! However, it seems that the newly offered Global MBA programme is not being marketed well enough in the market, or perhaps the market itself is unclear about or doubt with the accreditation part. Need to do more work to place more emphasis on the marketing communication yo!
The best MBA programs do not need much marketing. The program and the alumni speak louder than any marketing should. biggrin.gif

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