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jlhw111
post Apr 11 2017, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 11 2017, 05:18 PM)
i keep a 7098 in my car.
also im tempted by the newer 7098 that comes with a saw.
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is it more compact than the SAK counterpart?
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post Apr 11 2017, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Apr 11 2017, 05:24 PM)
is it more compact than the SAK counterpart?
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umm since u already have a 7098, saw or not...u should know the answer.
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post Apr 12 2017, 11:49 PM

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Since Malaysia is also starting to join the fidget spinner hype, consider this as a follow-up after my purhacse at Taobao and a product review.

The brand is RM fidget spinner, in Chinese, 戎马 (Rong Ma), click here to view the taobao product page.
They have the option to add tritium vial grooves on the arms (tritium vials not included).

I bought a tri-arm, stainless steel version of it, without the optional tritium vial grooves, to match with my edc colour scheme which is mostly black and silver colour.

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Along with other fidget spinner brands with similar designs, RM fidget spinner is a knockoff of the UK-made Rotablade Stubby, but much, much cheaper and available for the regular people compared to the original version. Rotablade used to have a Tri-Stubby, but it was nowhere to be found in the Rotablade website, probably sold out for now. It uses an R188 stainless steel bearing, and after my inspection, the bearing is indeed REMOVABLE, as opposed to my ignorant comment about the bearing being permanently attached to the bearing retention yesterday. bangwall.gif

The complete disassembly of the RM fidget spinner:

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The spinner is about 5.2 cm in diameter, 1.3 cm at the highest point (self measurements) and 120 g (according to Taobao website). It is quite difficult to perform a one-handed power spin with it, due to its weight and the sharp edges along the end of the arms.

My particular spinner has a groove (possibly machining error).

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Besides, the screw caps, when screwed to the spinner, wobbles slightly if attempted to tilt left and right. The seller said that's normal to have some very narrow clearance between the caps' axle and the bearing (Can clarify to me? I'm not into machining). Nevertheless, due to this narrow clearance that will cause minor wobbling, coupled with the whirring sound made by the steel bearing during spin, the spinner produces a turboprop-like sound when put into a table spin, gooding yo! rclxms.gif

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Now for its performance. As I told @tescogot, my first straight-outta-box table spin clocks at 8 min 16 sec, currently clock from 6 to 8 min. Here's the proof of the 1st table spin time:

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I didn't time my hand spin time (one or both-handed) because I'm already impressed with the table spin time. Spinning time wise, I considered it good already. If there is no wobbling of the screw caps and I had replaced the bearing into R188 hybrid or full ceramic bearing, I predict the table spin time will be above 10 minutes no sweat.

Verdict: Recommended to buy, if you understand Chinese and the procedures of Taobao, and you wanna have a taste with metallic spinners that have a good spinning time and a different design compared to the Torqbar knockoffs and the plastic spinners we saw everywhere. There are other similar alternatives in Aliexpress, but significantly fewer options when compared to Taobao.

TLDR: RM fidget spinner, click this to see more at Taobao, replacable R188 stainless steel bearing, long spin time, slight wobble at the screw cap, less suitable for one-handed power spin, two handed is no problem.
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Feb 24 2017, 02:18 PM)
I have a question: If anyone incl your family members are aware ofyour edc, and they're far from having positive response (as my edc has knives and MT),  what would you do/how to convince them that edc is not something intimidating?

PS: my edc is way far from being takticool smh
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Being wise about carrying a knife even a small plastic one; the best way is to educate people, never show it off randomly and use it as only as you have intended and other than that those blade should never seen public sunlight, I carry a CRKT Sting for self-defense purpose and I never show it off.

Other EDC are more acceptable than the others, having trouble finding good pepper spray anymore and ACE Hardware cost a fortune for it. Those darn mata... ranting.gif

This post has been edited by yindragon: Apr 20 2017, 11:43 PM
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post Apr 17 2017, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(yindragon @ Apr 17 2017, 10:52 PM)
Being wise about carrying a knife even a small plastic one it the best way to educate people, never show it of and use it as only as you have intended and other than that those blade never seen sunlight, I carry a CRKT Sting for self-defense purpose and I never show it off.

Other EDC are more acceptable than the others, having trouble finding good pepper spray anymore and ACE Hardware cost a fortune for it. Those darn mata...  ranting.gif
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u can buy pepper spray in pharmacies like caring or guardian.
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post Apr 20 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 17 2017, 11:16 PM)
u can buy pepper spray in pharmacies like caring or guardian.
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Bought one from guardian, they are the mist type not the stream type, not a good idea of self defense
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post Apr 21 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(yindragon @ Apr 20 2017, 11:36 PM)
Bought one from guardian, they are the mist type not the stream type, not a good idea of self defense
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what brand? i know caring sells the stoper brand... that one streams... iirc 8ft range.

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post Apr 22 2017, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(yindragon @ Apr 17 2017, 10:52 PM)
Being wise about carrying a knife even a small plastic one; the best way is to educate people, never show it off randomly and use it as only as you have intended and other than that those blade should never seen public sunlight, I carry a CRKT Sting for self-defense purpose and I never show it off.

Other EDC are more acceptable than the others, having trouble finding good pepper spray anymore and ACE Hardware cost a fortune for it. Those darn mata...  ranting.gif
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Thanks for your concern, my knife and MT is usually carried in my backpack, seldom edc my knife in my pocket now

For self defense, I rotate through my Zebra F-701 and Olight S1R
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post Apr 22 2017, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Apr 22 2017, 02:01 AM)
Thanks for your concern, my knife and MT is usually carried in my backpack, seldom edc my knife in my pocket now

For self defense, I rotate through my Zebra F-701 and Olight S1R
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Carrying your knife in your backpack when you might need it (e.g: when you are alone and walking through a dark area) might defeat the purpose of carrying one (correct me if I am wrong here), you might as well carry a pepper spray or your flashlight ready in hand unless the knife is not intended to be a self defense weapon.

That being said, self defense weapon can be anything; from keys to straight aim at the groin (sorry guys... sweat.gif ) and timing of execution and fleeing is always crucial.

BTW, did you practise to with your flashlight for self defense? bruce.gif
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post Apr 22 2017, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(yindragon @ Apr 22 2017, 02:27 AM)
Carrying your knife in your backpack when you might need it (e.g: when you are alone and walking through a dark area) might defeat the purpose of carrying one (correct me if I am wrong here), you might as well carry a pepper spray or your flashlight ready in hand unless the knife is not intended to be a self defense weapon.

That being said, self defense weapon can be anything; from keys to straight aim at the groin (sorry guys... sweat.gif ) and timing of execution and fleeing is always crucial.

BTW, did you practise to with your flashlight for self defense?  bruce.gif
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My knife (sanrenmu 7098, without saw) is not and never intended to be a self defense tool, due to it lacks assisted opening and legal constraint against usage of folding knives for self defense

No, I didn't practice with my pen and torch, because both are expected to be used after delay tactics, and only when necessary. Flee is always my 1st choice should that situation arose.
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post Apr 22 2017, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Apr 22 2017, 02:42 AM)
My knife (sanrenmu 7098, without saw) is not and never intended to be a self defense tool, due to it lacks assisted opening and legal constraint against usage of folding knives for self defense

No, I didn't practice with my pen and torch, because both are expected to be used after delay tactics, and only when necessary. Flee is always my 1st choice should that situation arose.
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Self defense is not to cause any wound or draw blood, it is used to make your enemy flinch and widen the gap between you and the assailant, you must always be alert and have a fair judgment to see if you can out run the assailant or not since there might be more than one or you are not confident enough to outrun them.

The reason I ask is because bright light might blind the attacker in a dark place when shine right at their eyes but it might blind you as well unless you are train to dodge or blink for that couple millisecond so you can flee instantly or pepper spray them.

I have a collection of Surefire flashlight and I learn how to do tactical blinding and it save my life once.
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post Apr 22 2017, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(yindragon @ Apr 22 2017, 03:02 AM)
Self defense is not to cause any wound or draw blood, it is used to make your enemy flinch and widen the gap between you and the assailant, you must always be alert and have a fair judgment to see if you can out run the assailant or not since there might be more than one or you are not confident enough to outrun them.

The reason I ask is because bright light might blind the attacker in a dark place when shine right at their eyes but it might blind you as well unless you are train to dodge or blink for that couple millisecond so you can flee instantly or pepper spray them.

I have a collection of Surefire flashlight and I learn how to do tactical blinding and it save my life once.
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Oops, I need to rephrase my previous reply:

I don't practice with my pen and torch regularly, like every day biggrin.gif , but I do know how to use them for self defense. For my pen, I know which pressure points to be struck on, with my nib either extended (for maximum grip) or retracted (to avoid poking through the flesh, but the grip is still secured due to the pen clip), for the Olight, it's ok for me, because sometimes I'll activate my flash in my room when it's dark, and no, I'm not directing it directly to my eyes rclxub.gif
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post Apr 22 2017, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Apr 22 2017, 03:16 AM)
Oops, I need to rephrase my previous reply:

I don't practice with my pen and torch regularly, like every day  biggrin.gif , but I do know how to use them for self defense. For my pen, I know which pressure points to be struck on, with my nib either extended (for maximum grip) or retracted (to avoid poking through the flesh, but the grip is still secured due to the pen clip), for the Olight, it's ok for me, because sometimes I'll activate my flash in my room when it's dark, and no, I'm not directing it directly to my eyes  rclxub.gif
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No hard feelings here, just trying to make sure tools are use correctly the way it should be executed in the according time, our appropriate action will provide a powerful statement of the benefit of EDC not some flashy alien object that will lead people to question, what on earth is that? confused.gif

That also help us advocate the benefit of of EDC that everyone who wish to learn how to be apart of them (like 'smart' phone) lol.gif which I believe connects back to your first question. wink.gif

I really need to get a phone to upload my EDC up here sad.gif

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post May 2 2017, 10:30 AM

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im looking for something like this locally

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a wallet that can hold a pen and a victorinox sak

it costs 300++ if i bought it from the states

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post May 2 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(tescogot @ May 2 2017, 10:30 AM)
im looking for something like this locally

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a wallet that can hold a pen and a victorinox sak

it costs 300++ if i bought it from the states

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thats like so fat.
why not just buy a holster like the nite ize mini pock-its.
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post May 2 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(lukescamwalker @ May 2 2017, 10:41 AM)
Search FB kerastangan
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will do thanks

QUOTE(Everdying @ May 2 2017, 10:46 AM)
thats like so fat.
why not just buy a holster like the nite ize mini pock-its.
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I'll check it out
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post May 5 2017, 03:10 PM

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Thomas Tools is back at it again! Quick, upload your EDC and inspire others! rclxms.gif


2017 EDC Competition
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post May 8 2017, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(lukescamwalker @ May 2 2017, 10:41 AM)
Search FB kerastangan
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hey man thanks for recommended kerastangan to me

received their product just now

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post May 8 2017, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(tescogot @ May 8 2017, 05:17 PM)
hey man thanks for recommended kerastangan to me

received their product just now

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nice spinner. may i know where did you get it?
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post May 8 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ May 8 2017, 05:20 PM)
nice spinner. may i know where did you get it?
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bought at at jalan tar kL for just 20++

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