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yindragon
post Nov 26 2015, 04:37 PM

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My EDC consist of:-

- flashlight (123A powered)
-a small boot knife
-necessary ID and documents
-phone
-watch (never get out without it)
-small self pack first aid
- touch n' go with some money

-odd thing that I carry is a pair of switchable sunglasses, the yellow lens comes in handy for preventing night glare from in coming headlight brows.gif

- used to carry pepper spray but got taken away by police so don't carry it now


now I am debating if I should left my knife at home or not since I travel via public transport and my place is quite dark (no street lights) and I don't have pepper spray anymore and I commute alone everyday.

any advice on this will help... sweat.gif

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post Nov 27 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Armata @ Nov 27 2015, 09:20 AM)
Oh do share about pepper spray issue as i carry one as well and so do my wife. What's the reason they confiscate? I always thought it is OK to carry pepper spray.

You can carry the knife if you want, so long it's not full-size. Coz i think most PDRM knows that ppl who carries small folder like us dont go out and rob others. Since a Parang does a better job in term of intimidation and hurting others. But of course there would be other over zealous cops that would still confiscate them. My advice, carries one..but with the lowest cost u felt it's ok to be confiscated. At least one that wont make us go hide in a corner and cry 5 mins.. nod.gif

And wat light is that? I EDC a RCR123 as well...Olight's S10R Baton..my pocket rocket.. biggrin.gif
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I carry two type of CR 123A type flashlight as I find they are brighter and more longer lasting than any AA or AAA batteries, my pocket ready one are Surefire 1A Titan and I have a backup Surefire BK-Y300 in my bag - the ability to switch to a blinding 500 lumen seems vital to me since I have to walk home alone in a sometimes dark street when the streetlights are not working and both of them are small enough to be discreet.

I carry a CRKT Sting 3B in my pocket and more worried of those 'hantu' than planning to rob anyone with it. I use parang when I go hiking even then the journey there and back are a tense one as well. Do you know what classified as full-size knife in Malaysia? Just want to be clear.

Well, the story of my pepper spray got confiscated is at Sentral KTM by some 'over-zealous' police and they question me if I know the consequences if I were to use this in a public place? Dumb question if you ask me and nobody in the right mind would do that in an over crowded place... doh.gif Oh by the way, they told me it is illegal to bring anything that can cause bodily injuries to anyone (which brings to the question - should I aim for the groin?)
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post Nov 27 2015, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(tescogot @ Nov 27 2015, 10:51 AM)
it's supposed to be hidden like that

the golden ring in the middle is the handle

so far its the only safest way of carrying a knife apart from victorinox i could think of

the blade is not as sharp as the victorinox though but quite thick

so far im still trying to get used to not having a wallet at the back pocket

next im considering getting a proper flashlight

what's the lowest lumens acceptable for an edc light?

i saw there's one fenix with a max output of 80++ lumens and i thought i would suffice

the problem is im afraid if i get a flashlight my pocket would be more crowded than it already has
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try this:

http://www.surefire.com/titan-b.html

http://www.surefire.com/titan-a.html

I have to admit they are kind of expensive but their LED will not lose their brightness over time as fast as other I have used before.

There are no lowest lumen that I am aware off, just max of 300 lumen that is in par of the standard issue the police is using, correct me if I'm wrong... 75 low lumen is good for night walking without jeopardizing you night vision and cars to notice you

Sides they have dual/tri-brightness, and they have it in AAA now instead of the more costly CR 123A batteries that I'm currently using. They are mini and won't cramp up your pocket. smile.gif

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post Nov 27 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(tescogot @ Nov 27 2015, 11:11 AM)
how many times can a pepper spray be used?

issit a one time use only?

by the way how did the police found out you were carrying a pepper spray?

yeah i think those cops are overzealous by confiscating a non lethal personal protection item of which it was supposed to be

i mean why would people sell it openly if its not meant to be carried

the same reason why i wouldn't want to carry a folder

suppose by law we are able to bring a knife with a blade not exceeding 3 inch but i wouldn't risk it
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a full loaded pepper spray that is not expired or near expiring will have a good two to three spray depends how hard or how long you press. don't buy those mini cute one, they don't even have enough range for you to make an escape.

I have no idea why I was picked by those fanatics that day, I was asked have my bag searched along with a handful of people there (luckily they didn't found my knife in my pocket whistling.gif )

being pepper spray sold everywhere are a huge question for me, well I will never find why the police decided to take it.

can I know more of the victorinox you are carry?

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post Nov 27 2015, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(tescogot @ Nov 26 2015, 04:40 PM)
RM156 including postage

i just received it just now

cant wait to get back home to dissect this thing

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so expensive for knife... should wait for black friday or cyber monday... they are usually dirty cheap by then

are you concern that this is a genuine product? when I was in US there are many seller caution that there are many fake Gerber product since it is such a popular brand... unsure.gif
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post Nov 27 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(tescogot @ Nov 27 2015, 12:02 PM)
this is my victorinox

http://multitools.com.my/classic-range-58m...sic-sd-red.html

yeah it's quite expensive because in us it's sell for less than 40 bucks only

you should see the other guy claimed that other site is selling it for RM276

but then i got some cash to spare for a new blade anyway

i'd never really questioned the authenticity of this product since the built quality is top notch
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I know it sounds dumb for me to ask this, does the scissors on it cuts and how solid does it feels on your hand? What kind of warranty it have?

I like to collect knife and I never own a victorinox before so I am eyeing on one, I've seen swiss army knife but they were always so expensive; I would like an opinion from a person who actually put it to use everyday icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 27 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Armata @ Nov 27 2015, 02:38 PM)
I never own a victorinox..but my brother does.
I compare my wingman's scissor with my brother's victorinox..and..............................the vixtorinox scissor felt better. It's more gentle on the thumb and cuts smoother....

so if scissor is gonna be used often, dont get the Wingman multitool....try out others instead unless u wanna get a victorinox.....
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I used Leatherman multi-tools before, although it feels solid but the knife is cheap (manage to break it, luckily got unlimited lifetime warranty in US) and one thing is the size is too big for a women's hand and their women's version is nothing but a pink color piece of junk

That is the reason I am very weary of getting any multi-tools every since, glad to hear a good review for victorinox - a reason to set aside a budget for it brows.gif
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post Nov 27 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Armata @ Nov 27 2015, 01:36 PM)
Thanks for the info..i never knew there's such light.i mean the BK-Y300..looks like it's very versatile with 2 cells + able to clip on with rotation. I actually went out and bougt the nite-ize holster where u can rotate it while it's clipped on your belt. Good eye opener on this. Now i am tempted...again. lol

The Sting is a dagger bro..i think cops view dagger and knife differently. So better careful with that.

And yes, i agree with you on the pepper spray..it's basically being sold EVERYWHERE... But i remember few wks back, some top cop asked the rakyat to get a stick or something to defend ourself...or is it a FB sharing when a lady called the cop for help..forgot which. Hahaa...
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QUOTE(Armata @ Nov 27 2015, 01:45 PM)
And it takes recharges..instead of CR123 which costs around RM10~Rm12 a pc....

On pepper spray, get those reputable ones...they will have description like how many shot is expected and how long it will be able to discharge if you're to press down continously. On top of that, it will explain the distance, spray type (line or cone) and expiry date.
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QUOTE(Armata @ Nov 27 2015, 01:49 PM)
And if i may add on light, usually they come in either Cool Tint or Neutral Tint...as well as flood or throw.

Cool Tint - white in color
Neutral Tint - a little orange/amber like old school incandescent light

Flood - practical for indoor when you need more area to be lit especially in room. Usually this means the reflector is an Orange Peel (rough surface)
Throw - practical for outdoor..but if you have room for only 1, get this..since watever flood can do, throw can as well..but not the other way round. If in room/indoor when you want flood, point towards ceiling...unless ur in warehouse, then well..too bad lol

Again, consider Olight's S10R bro for EDC...definitely will make u wanna go out every night and jst shine at something far.. lol
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Both of my Surefire runs on rechargeable CR123A batt, the run time might be a little lack when compared to the non-rechargeable one but it is enough for me, Surefire sells the re-chargeable one and it still hold an ample amount of charge after 2 years of using. The BK-Y300 have a quick detach holster which is a magnet holster, it is very useful in situation where you need light fast. Can I know what type of nite-ize holster you bought, curious...

Which type of pepper spray you prefer, line or cone? I personally prefer line one since it can be used on slightly windy day without the mist coming back at me.

Now, you are making me having a serious consideration wherever to carry my Sting around or not (with those foreigner living in my neighborhood...) Can you explain the difference between a dagger and a knife, from the cops point of view; need to know as much as I can since I commute using public transport everyday...

If I may add something to your third post is if you want to use the flashlight as a self-defense tool (to temporary blind someone) yellow tint light is not an option, many experts agree with this as well as from experience - almost got rob before and I blind him before making a run for it

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post Nov 29 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 29 2015, 11:52 AM)

in terms of pocket tools, i actually prefer my leatherman squirt ps4, but its abit too heavy...weighs 39.5gms compared to the 20.8gms of the vic classic.

from the cops point of view, any knife thats not a swiss army, and i was told legally under 4"...can get u in trouble.
of cos it depends on what environment u are in etc...be dumb to confisticate it if u are in a jungle tongue.gif

and if u are decent in hand to hand, a decent tool is of cos the keys in ur pocket...or can fix a strike bezel onto ur light if possible...which usually are limited to the tactical lights.
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I like leathermen product as they have unlimited lifetime warranty in US but I'm not sure if this is the case in Malaysia. I keep a multi-tool in both my office and home as they are very handy and sturdy, just wish my hands are bigger to have a nice grip around it.

My blade only register under 3.2" inch but I might consider not carry it now since my pepper spray has confiscated already. shakehead.gif

I am not very well verse in hand to hand but I do know how to handle a knife very well, the strength difference between gender makes me use knife as a last resort since light blinding is more effective.
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Feb 24 2017, 02:18 PM)
I have a question: If anyone incl your family members are aware ofyour edc, and they're far from having positive response (as my edc has knives and MT),  what would you do/how to convince them that edc is not something intimidating?

PS: my edc is way far from being takticool smh
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Being wise about carrying a knife even a small plastic one; the best way is to educate people, never show it off randomly and use it as only as you have intended and other than that those blade should never seen public sunlight, I carry a CRKT Sting for self-defense purpose and I never show it off.

Other EDC are more acceptable than the others, having trouble finding good pepper spray anymore and ACE Hardware cost a fortune for it. Those darn mata... ranting.gif

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post Apr 20 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 17 2017, 11:16 PM)
u can buy pepper spray in pharmacies like caring or guardian.
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Bought one from guardian, they are the mist type not the stream type, not a good idea of self defense
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post Apr 22 2017, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Apr 22 2017, 02:01 AM)
Thanks for your concern, my knife and MT is usually carried in my backpack, seldom edc my knife in my pocket now

For self defense, I rotate through my Zebra F-701 and Olight S1R
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Carrying your knife in your backpack when you might need it (e.g: when you are alone and walking through a dark area) might defeat the purpose of carrying one (correct me if I am wrong here), you might as well carry a pepper spray or your flashlight ready in hand unless the knife is not intended to be a self defense weapon.

That being said, self defense weapon can be anything; from keys to straight aim at the groin (sorry guys... sweat.gif ) and timing of execution and fleeing is always crucial.

BTW, did you practise to with your flashlight for self defense? bruce.gif
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post Apr 22 2017, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Apr 22 2017, 02:42 AM)
My knife (sanrenmu 7098, without saw) is not and never intended to be a self defense tool, due to it lacks assisted opening and legal constraint against usage of folding knives for self defense

No, I didn't practice with my pen and torch, because both are expected to be used after delay tactics, and only when necessary. Flee is always my 1st choice should that situation arose.
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Self defense is not to cause any wound or draw blood, it is used to make your enemy flinch and widen the gap between you and the assailant, you must always be alert and have a fair judgment to see if you can out run the assailant or not since there might be more than one or you are not confident enough to outrun them.

The reason I ask is because bright light might blind the attacker in a dark place when shine right at their eyes but it might blind you as well unless you are train to dodge or blink for that couple millisecond so you can flee instantly or pepper spray them.

I have a collection of Surefire flashlight and I learn how to do tactical blinding and it save my life once.
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post Apr 22 2017, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(jlhw111 @ Apr 22 2017, 03:16 AM)
Oops, I need to rephrase my previous reply:

I don't practice with my pen and torch regularly, like every day  biggrin.gif , but I do know how to use them for self defense. For my pen, I know which pressure points to be struck on, with my nib either extended (for maximum grip) or retracted (to avoid poking through the flesh, but the grip is still secured due to the pen clip), for the Olight, it's ok for me, because sometimes I'll activate my flash in my room when it's dark, and no, I'm not directing it directly to my eyes  rclxub.gif
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No hard feelings here, just trying to make sure tools are use correctly the way it should be executed in the according time, our appropriate action will provide a powerful statement of the benefit of EDC not some flashy alien object that will lead people to question, what on earth is that? confused.gif

That also help us advocate the benefit of of EDC that everyone who wish to learn how to be apart of them (like 'smart' phone) lol.gif which I believe connects back to your first question. wink.gif

I really need to get a phone to upload my EDC up here sad.gif

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post May 17 2017, 02:34 AM

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Morning everyone!

I have a few questions about this flashlight that I plan to replace my current Surefire Y300 (gave it to my sis sad.gif ) so I need advice on a new replacement I am eyeing on

1. What is your opinion about this for those who owns OLight and similar?
2. There is hardly any info on batteries, all YouTube and forum post are primary CR123a and disposable AAs, how about a RCR123a that OLight sells or something like Rayonac/ Enelope rechargeable AAs?
3. Being used to Surefire my whole EDC life...is there any problem or things I should be aware off? (e.g: hot spots or tail cap problem...etc?) hmm.gif

Attached are the pictures of the flashlight I am eyeing on, called OLight Transformer Titanium

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post May 17 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(lukescamwalker @ May 17 2017, 08:06 AM)
Olight is good. Other than titanium, cr123, rcr, 14500 & aa compatibility, its a bit dated. Xpg s2 tint kinda bit greenish. May i know why u want that particular light?

And quality wise, surefire is way better although price/performance ratio is not. And y300 is newer compared to transformer. Seriously why u want this light? hmm.gif
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I am looking at this light because it is on sale right now (falls into my current budget and wages allocation), I know my Y300 is a beast but it only runs on certain LiFePO4 RCR123a which can be quite troublesome, and to make matter worst Ace Hardware doesn't carry Surefire primary CR123a. I looking for advise here since other than cheap China made LED before using Surefire G2, Titan 1A and currently the Y300; I never venture to other brand before.

I saw my classmate has a S1R Baton but it is quite out of my budget, he manage to convince me that OLight have last use memory mode and I need a partly tactical light since the place I walk home can sometimes be quite dark and dangerous, in short my life do depends on it aside than lighting my way home.

If this light is not suitable for me I need some recommendation that is within USD$30, which is the price for this flashlight now. notworthy.gif

I am looking for flashlight with two requirements only:
1. Can be used with rechargable RCR123a
2. Two mode lighting, low and high.
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post May 18 2017, 12:54 PM

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I am curious lukescamwalker, you did mention that XPG-S2 light is a little greenish, will it be on the visible obvious side or only when you shine against a white wall? What are the pros and cons for it? This is the first time I am going to start learn back from basic again. sweat.gif um...where is the dealer for the Fenix? I might give it a try if I can test it out... hmm.gif

I am aware that not many have the high/low function that is within the budget and I will keep on looking until I have to settle with OLight Transformer or expand my budget to get the S1R Baton but I will looking into your recommendation first, appreciate very much for you help notworthy.gif

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