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Informationiac
post Apr 18 2016, 12:16 PM

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Hi guys, We have just applied Australian Migration under Sub 190.

Reaching second stage. However, we love to have another assessment since we can have 2 (Vetassess and AIMs).
we have applied Vetassess, For vetassess is ok already.

But for AIMs, is quite complicated as they said. For example, if my hubby want to apply as Managing Director role, he will required to submit organization chart. That is not big problem too. However, his organization is not public listed. Therefore there are like only 33-35 people working inside his office. Will he get a background check? What kind of question they ask? how they call and who they willl call?

Also can he was thinking to re-organize his staff's position name. For example instead of sales representative, he will put sales executive.

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post Apr 19 2016, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Apr 16 2016, 01:27 AM)
Hi. Depends which position that you are referring to. If S2 and above usually yes. The one that my gf had previously was about 20 minutes discussion over technical questions.
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QUOTE(Justin Wong @ Apr 17 2016, 10:34 PM)
I am not sure if I am an Accountant as per se as I am not in audit or tax, but I can share my experience with you since I working in one of the Big 4s in the consulting / Corp Finance practice. I am not sure what is the angle of your question so I will just share what I have been through and hopefully you can get some idea on what to prepare for.

The first stage is usually a telephone interview where the HR will give you a call and ask more about your background and your intention. This is typically a filtering process before the HR forward your CV to the hiring Manager. If the hiring Manager likes your CV, they will proceed to arrange an interview with you face to face. It usually take 2 days to a week before they come back to you because they need to schedule the hiring manager's time to have an interview with you. (Managers are quite busy).

If you are not in Australia, they will arrange an interview with you through video-conferencing (It is quite common these days, although some still prefer to chat with you physically, hence the reluctance to employ oversea candidate because they can't 'gauge' you properly without physical presence). at this stage, the hiring manager will be chatting with you about your work experience and why Australia etc, and maybe throw you some question regarding your technical field. Again, you will need to wait for another week or 2 before you know you succeed as they are also interviewing other candidates during your waiting period.

The third stage usually involve a case study / test. In my case, I had a phone call again with the hiring director who then gave me specific instructions on how the test will be conducted and what is expected in the test. The materials was emailed to me 15 minutes before the call and I was given an hour to read the case and prepare my answers. The director called me an hour later and ask for the answers. They will not tell you whether you pass or fail and you are expected to wait for a day or 2 before they come back to you.

If you pass the technical test, you will proceed to the final stage of the interview, which is meeting / video-conferencing with the Partner. At this stage, it is very likely that you will be getting the job unless for a very rare stroke of misfortune the Partner decided he or she does not like you. The session is really for the Partner to know more about you and officially tell you he will be making an offer. However, you may have to wait for another 3-4 weeks before the HR give you a call and talk to you about your salary package and your employment start date.

Tips? - do not fear the interviewer just because they are in the position of hiring - speak like they are your equal and be confident to ask anything.

It is very hard to express what I mean by that but I think a lot ppl, esp Asians, because out of respect to the superiors / hiring managers, they avoid asking confrontational questions or difficult questions that will make interviewer think. Aussies are generally very open with questions and the more you ask, the better impression they have with you. Fluency of english is definitely helpful. I suppose I do not need to talk about technical knowledge since it is given.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks guys, this was helpful. Coming from EY, I attempted to apply to EY Sydney and Melbourne, so far I've gotten past the phone screen part but no news after that. It's only been a week though.

I did, however, apply to BDO as well last week. Interview was on Thursday and they offered me the job today. I got someone to hand in my resume for me, without that I doubt that they'd even look at my papers. Connections appear to be everything when looking for a job in Australia.

I did all this while still in Malaysia though so it can be done.
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post Apr 19 2016, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Apr 19 2016, 03:39 PM)
Thanks guys, this was helpful. Coming from EY, I attempted to apply to EY Sydney and Melbourne, so far I've gotten past the phone screen part but no news after that. It's only been a week though.

I did, however, apply to BDO as well last week. Interview was on Thursday and they offered me the job today. I got someone to hand in my resume for me, without that I doubt that they'd even look at my papers. Connections appear to be everything when looking for a job in Australia.

I did all this while still in Malaysia though so it can be done.
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Congratulation on the job offer. May i know you are planning to migrate to Melbourne / Sydney?
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post Apr 19 2016, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Gary foo @ Apr 19 2016, 04:57 PM)
Congratulation on the job offer. May i know you are planning to migrate to Melbourne / Sydney?
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Thanks, I'm headed to Melbourne since BDO Melbourne offered me the job.
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post Apr 19 2016, 05:10 PM

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Melbourne is great you will enjoy it. Any assistence pls pm me . Currently in melb working in cbd
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post Apr 19 2016, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Apr 14 2016, 10:38 AM)
Anyone here is a chef? I start a biz on the F&B
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interested with ur bisnes, everything ok?
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post Apr 19 2016, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(selvenz @ Apr 19 2016, 05:10 PM)
Melbourne is great you will enjoy it. Any assistence pls pm me . Currently in melb working in cbd
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Thanks man, appreciate it.
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post Apr 19 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Apr 19 2016, 05:07 PM)
Thanks, I'm headed to Melbourne since BDO Melbourne offered me the job.
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Great. Hope to see you there if everything goes well.
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post Apr 22 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ Apr 16 2016, 09:57 AM)
Where are you currently based at and how's the rental there ?
Im surveying for a foodstall kiosk to take over in Sydney.
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Careful on the shopping mall's rental. Mak3 sure u read thoroughly. Biz can be free but check on liability back there
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Apr 19 2016, 07:56 AM)
Don't want to spill cold water on your plan. If you plan to migrate, you should lower your targets n goals. If you can't get engineering jobs there, you have to put up with any job they throw at you. Yes, be it a teacher, a petrol station manager and even a child care specialists. That's what my friends are doing there. My cousin is a masters degree with Melbourne uni, he can't even get an engineering job there. Nobody want to hire him, I just dunno why. But he is quite happy working as a barista in the day and a bartender at night. Its tough but the dough is enough for him to pay for his rent and other essentials.

Bro you have to realistic, migration to oz, is for the quality of life there NOT for career purposes. I heard they discount your Asian work experience unless you are really exceptional. I got a lady friend managed to get a job as a telco engineer. She got a fine paying job, maybe its because she is a girl? haha, or maybe because she's pretty. She got an Aussie boyfriend. Dunno lah. See your luck lah.
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The engineering firms in the West, including Australia are bending over backwards to hire female engineers. You'll only need to be reasonably competent and you'll get the job as they're trying to increase the % representation.



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post Apr 22 2016, 11:33 PM

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lol. i ll be another malaysian going to live and work in melbourne soon. never step in melbourne land before so yea nervous but looking forward.

im wondering how much cash should i bring over in order to survive my first month in melb. can anyone provide some idea? i expect my first month there would be a "disaster" before the payday. hahaha
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QUOTE(Geminist @ Apr 22 2016, 04:00 PM)
The engineering firms in the West, including Australia are bending over backwards to hire female engineers.  You'll only need to be reasonably competent and you'll get the job as they're trying to increase the % representation.
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Coming from a big company in Australia, I can second the above. Companies are looking to balance the gender ratio, I believed it's a commitment to the government.

Hence if you are a female in engineering, other than process or environmental. You ll have a good chance.
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post Apr 23 2016, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Apr 22 2016, 11:33 PM)
lol. i ll be another malaysian going to live and work in melbourne soon. never step in melbourne land before so yea nervous but looking forward.

im wondering how much cash should i bring over in order to survive my first month in melb. can anyone provide some idea? i expect my first month there would be a "disaster" before the payday. hahaha
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This largely depends on your rentals, for food $500-600/month is more than enough if you cook your own dinners. You can get a full bag of groceries that can feed you for a week with $50. And Melbourne got goooood coffees!!!

Btw your company didn't pay you weekly?
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QUOTE(kyone @ Apr 23 2016, 09:52 AM)
This largely depends on your rentals, for food $500-600/month is more than enough if you cook your own dinners. You can get a full bag of groceries that can feed you for a week with $50. And Melbourne got goooood coffees!!!

Btw your company didn't pay you weekly?
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thanks for your sharing and reply. haha. my typical mindset to make budget on monthly basis. i plan to stay south or south east to save a bit of rental exps. but wil definitely get a car since can claim for petrol etc. well in my contract it states pay fortnightly.
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post Apr 23 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Apr 22 2016, 04:00 PM)
The engineering firms in the West, including Australia are bending over backwards to hire female engineers.  You'll only need to be reasonably competent and you'll get the job as they're trying to increase the % representation.
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QUOTE(Soony @ Apr 22 2016, 11:43 PM)
Coming from a big company in Australia, I can second the above. Companies are looking to balance the gender ratio, I believed it's a commitment to the government.

Hence if you are a female in engineering, other than process or environmental. You ll have a good chance.
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Even in current economic climate? I thought of laying low and gaining as much experience as I can for the time being, then only try my opportunity when oil price hikes up.
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post Apr 24 2016, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(klein @ Apr 23 2016, 01:29 PM)
Even in current economic climate? I thought of laying low and gaining as much experience as I can for the time being, then only try my opportunity when oil price hikes up.
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Yes, in the economic climate, companies would still need to fulfill their requirements and promises with the government. But hey, women are pretty good in management and engineering, so far the ones that I met are outstanding.

Whereabouts do you work at now? My advise is don't get into the technical field, there is no technical work here in Australia for engineering.
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post Apr 24 2016, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Apr 22 2016, 11:33 PM)
lol. i ll be another malaysian going to live and work in melbourne soon. never step in melbourne land before so yea nervous but looking forward.

im wondering how much cash should i bring over in order to survive my first month in melb. can anyone provide some idea? i expect my first month there would be a "disaster" before the payday. hahaha
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QUOTE(kyone @ Apr 23 2016, 09:52 AM)
This largely depends on your rentals, for food $500-600/month is more than enough if you cook your own dinners. You can get a full bag of groceries that can feed you for a week with $50. And Melbourne got goooood coffees!!!

Btw your company didn't pay you weekly?
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I presume your co does not provide relocation cost in your pay package. Unless you stay in a friend's place for a while, otherwise I strongly suggest you have at least 8k to 10k.

In Sydney, the general practice is to 2 weeks bond and 2 weeks - 4 weeks advance rental, that will require you to come out with at least 4k. (assuming your rental is about 500 to 600 weekly, and you are not renting a room from a sub-leasor). I presume it is similar in Melb.

On top of that, you might want to have 1k to 2k for deposits / others - mobile phone / internet subscription, furnitures and car, if u are planing to get one soon. (assuming you are not getting a fully furnished unit).

Maybe you should check with your friends who stay in Melbourne and ask them SPECIFICALLY those question. People who has lived long enough in Aus would have conveniently forgotten about those question because it probably only happens once / twice in their life when they move overseas, but it is without a doubt critical.

Cheers and good luck!

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post Apr 24 2016, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Apr 24 2016, 07:55 AM)
Yes, in the economic climate, companies would still need to fulfill their requirements and promises with the government. But hey, women are pretty good in management and engineering, so far the ones that I met are outstanding.

Whereabouts do you work at now? My advise is don't get into the technical field, there is no technical work here in Australia for engineering.
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I have a degree in engineering (neither process nor environmental).. been with our national oil company for more than 3 years (experience thus far spanned across gas and petrochemical)..

I thought being technical is the way to go. So you are suggesting more of an office- or firm-based position, rather than one that requires me to be based in the manufacturing plant/ site?

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