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post Apr 24 2016, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(klein @ Apr 24 2016, 08:19 PM)
I have a degree in engineering (neither process nor environmental).. been with our national oil company for more than 3 years (experience thus far spanned across gas and petrochemical)..

I thought being technical is the way to go. So you are suggesting more of an office- or firm-based position, rather than one that requires me to be based in the manufacturing plant/ site?
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If you want to work in Australia then project management would be the way to go. Most of our technical work(design/development) are all contracted out to overseas contractors due to the rates. Imagine $200/hr compared with rm100/hour?
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post Apr 25 2016, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Justin Wong @ Apr 24 2016, 07:57 AM)
I presume your co does not provide relocation cost in your pay package. Unless you stay in a friend's place for a while, otherwise I strongly suggest you have at least 8k to 10k.

In Sydney, the general practice is to 2 weeks bond and 2 weeks - 4 weeks advance rental, that will require you to come out with at least 4k. (assuming your rental is about 500 to 600 weekly, and you are not renting a room from a sub-leasor). I presume it is similar in Melb.

On top of that, you might want to have 1k to 2k for deposits / others - mobile phone / internet subscription, furnitures and car, if u are planing to get one soon. (assuming you are not getting a fully furnished unit).

Maybe you should check with your friends who stay in Melbourne and ask them SPECIFICALLY those question. People who has lived long enough in Aus would have conveniently forgotten about those question because it probably only happens once / twice in their life when they move overseas, but it is without a doubt critical.

Cheers and good luck!
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Thanks for sharing. My co provided standard relocation package - airfare, temporary accommodation etc. Sadly to say I don't have friends/relatives in Melbourne. They are in Sydney/Perth but I'll probably ask for transfer in 1 to 2 yrs times.



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QUOTE(z21j @ Apr 25 2016, 12:45 AM)
Thanks for sharing. My co provided standard relocation package - airfare, temporary accommodation etc. Sadly to say I don't have friends/relatives in Melbourne. They are in Sydney/Perth but I'll probably ask for transfer in 1 to 2 yrs times.
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Relocation package is helpful and it is good they offer that.

You are better off to be in Melb instead of Sydney / Perth. Sydney's accommodation is more expensive than Melb and Melb is more liveable in terms of traffic, city landscape etc. The only complain I have with Melb is the extreme weather changes. Perth on the other hand is a quiet city - too quiet for me personally and job opportunities are lesser too compared to Sydney and Melb, although rent / housing cost is probably the cheapest compare to Sydney and Melb.

Of course, friends can be more important but that is your choice.
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Apr 22 2016, 08:35 PM)
Western Australia or Perth? If in one of those small town maybe lah.

But with the mining sector boom down, not sure if they are adversely affected.

Trouble is, every migrant wants to live in the big city, be it Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Perth or Brisbane.

Well if all else fail, just get any job. If the prospective migrant is migrating because he or she wants to build career, I think that person is being unrealistic (unless that person is cream of the crop), migrating is about the quality of life there.
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i've been thinking very long about this statement that everyone is quoting...

what kind of quality life are we looking at if one is earning 50k/annum in melbourne?
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Apr 25 2016, 12:03 PM)
Me too. For some it would be the free medical, u can check tat out. Some of my frens say can claim for specs, child birth, etc.

Education used to be free but i not sure to wat aspect now perhaps other posters can help advise here.

Other than that its the freedom n i suppose fair n equitable treat ment u receive in oz compared to bolehland. But dun get me wrong, racism is everywhere. I myself hv gotten racial taunts in oz b4 but harmless ones with exception of an aussie trucker wanted to run me down when i jaywalk haha.

Expect some favortism to their own kind at workplace. But hey we get that too in bolehland.

You pay ur taxes n its channelled to transparent means. Just look at the world class bike lanes, parks m amenities they hv compared to our clog drains n persistence water shortage

Their town council also respect ur rights. B4 they decide to build a road near ur housing they will set up committee with stakeholders like residence politicians govt councul etc to get feedback n approval. Not like here can set up radioactive plant in gebeng not even bother to consult local populatiom some more say as save as kicap plant.

Also u earn good ex rates n live in first world country. U probably not enjoy 100% but ur kids will benefit the most as their education system is likely surpass our msian ones. I think theirs is less exam based n more focus on creativity thinking n assignments.

U go anywhere as 1st gen migrants sure suffer one la dun expect bed of roses. The ozzies r bias to our work experience. If u work 10 yrs as tax accountant they rgd u as hvg zero yrs. If u 30 u may hv to work same level as 23 yo ozzies. That is if u r lucky to get a job of ur profession. Cant deny there r exceptions.
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AFAIK, Medicare's coverage is limited (though better than SOCSO) and most people will get some kind of private medical insurance... similar to Malaysia but its cheaper dollar to dollar

education i agree but there are lots of private schools in Melbourne and i'm not sure who goes there if public schools are already good enough?
for tertiary level, as a PR/Citizen, one needs to compete with foreign students for a placement, education is always a business...

racism i agree, i get some of that during my uni years but it was some homeless drunkard, harmless like you said

exchange rates wise, if you live and spend there, you won't get much benefits... though some things are still cheaper than Malaysia even after conversion...

job is something that worries me the most, if i don''t get a good job, its hard to sustain my family there...

thanks for the info though...

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Apr 25 2016, 02:08 PM)
I suppose the economy there works differently. I know people who can save up on 50k a yr as a petrol station manager. I got a fren there he can survive with a bit savings by working as part time child care n at night as retailer.

U cant expect to be living as a manager pay if u want to migrate. There r people who r lucky to get top notch jobs maybe  its the timing or they belong to some niche industry or they r top students.

However majority i hear get pretty much sub standard jobs thst ozzies dun want. Anyway u cant expect much. I mean how would u feel if bangglas here start encroaching ur jobs like banking officer, engineers n doctors? Answer is protek protek. U obviously be competing with ozzies for jobs in an already limited job supply mkt. Most just gave up n tool up jobs ozzies dun want.
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well... you have a point... decisions decisions...

give up good life here for an uncertain future or stay back and feel unsafe and paying through my nose for kid's education bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Apr 25 2016, 02:49 PM)
I got frens who been there for 7 to 10 years, they seem to be doing fine and satisfied with average paying jobs. I also got frens who returned from Australia and gave up on their PR after the bitter taste of being unemployed and not happy with jobs. Also got friends who keep on going back n forth every 2 years between Malaysia n Australia, like hotel, can;t make it up their minds.
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Apr 25 2016, 12:03 PM)
Me too. For some it would be the free medical, u can check tat out. Some of my frens say can claim for specs, child birth, etc.

Education used to be free but i not sure to wat aspect now perhaps other posters can help advise here.

Other than that its the freedom n i suppose fair n equitable treat ment u receive in oz compared to bolehland. But dun get me wrong, racism is everywhere. I myself hv gotten racial taunts in oz b4 but harmless ones with exception of an aussie trucker wanted to run me down when i jaywalk haha.

Expect some favortism to their own kind at workplace. But hey we get that too in bolehland.

You pay ur taxes n its channelled to transparent means. Just look at the world class bike lanes, parks m amenities they hv compared to our clog drains n persistence water shortage

Their town council also respect ur rights. B4 they decide to build a road near ur housing they will set up committee with stakeholders like residence politicians govt councul etc to get feedback n approval. Not like here can set up radioactive plant in gebeng not even bother to consult local populatiom some more say as save as kicap plant.

Also u earn good ex rates n live in first world country. U probably not enjoy 100% but ur kids will benefit the most as their education system is likely surpass our msian ones. I think theirs is less exam based n more focus on creativity thinking n assignments.

U go anywhere as 1st gen migrants sure suffer one la dun expect bed of roses. The ozzies r bias to our work experience. If u work 10 yrs as tax accountant they rgd u as hvg zero yrs. If u 30 u may hv to work same level as 23 yo ozzies. That is if u r lucky to get a job of ur profession. Cant deny there r exceptions.
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Tertiary education by research- tuition free is sponsored by the government under the Research Training Scheme. It's pretty good, I've checked it out and that is just another reason why I took up the PR application process. Also not many Aussies are keen on going onto to do a Master by research/ PhD, based on what the info that I got when I asked a bunch of them.
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Guys, what kind of private insurance you guys choose here? I'm not PR yet and need it to cover my kids vaccine. Any recommendation? Thanks.
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QUOTE(wwwah85 @ Apr 26 2016, 10:54 AM)
Guys, what kind of private insurance you guys choose here? I'm not PR yet and need it to cover my kids vaccine. Any recommendation? Thanks.
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We got couple of companies which is good like Medibank, Bupa, HBF....
choose wisely coz not all insurance are that great... dry.gif
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Hi guys, just came back from KL for a week holiday. Wondering around cheras & PJ.
Construction development gone crazy looks like plenty of jobs but the pay.....
Road works everywhere and the road condition is bad....real bad.
Despite of the horror on malaysian driving style, food is the key to keep me calm.
Had most of the food you name it.

Went to Jusco & Tesco, the goods are so expensive which comparable to Oz. Sometimes even expensive say ikan bilis! Tot gonna bring in few kilos but after conversion, i better buy in Oz as cheaper than malaysia....wonder why

Yeah, bought some shoes and clothing. However, compared to previous visit, realising RM is smaller, inflation gets higher. Even we bringing in ozzie dollar, you still pay higher.


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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Apr 26 2016, 02:15 PM)
Hi guys, just came back from KL for a week holiday. Wondering around cheras & PJ.
Construction development gone crazy looks like plenty of jobs but the pay.....
Road works everywhere and the road condition is bad....real bad.
Despite of the horror on malaysian driving style, food is the key to keep me calm.
Had most of the food you name it.

Went to Jusco & Tesco, the goods are so expensive which comparable to Oz. Sometimes even expensive say ikan bilis! Tot gonna bring in few kilos but after conversion, i better buy in Oz as cheaper than malaysia....wonder why

Yeah, bought some shoes and clothing. However, compared to previous visit, realising RM is smaller, inflation gets higher. Even we bringing in ozzie dollar, you still pay higher.
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Mononpoly..............Msians pay very high prices for essentials with respect to their income.
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post Apr 26 2016, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 26 2016, 02:19 PM)
Mononpoly..............Msians pay very high prices for essentials with respect to their income.
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Yeah, paying using their future money to survive.
I felt sad when looking at the young people who worked damn hard to own a car and a property. Sacrifices made to their family time and nothing else but work!
I know getting cheap stuff back home is great but when you dealt with people who serves you, i don't mind to pay extra for them as commission (of course not too extreme) like keep the change or sort of.
Life is hard back there. Reminds me when i was working in KL OT every night. reaching home at 930pm not even have dinner yet...
Young people don't have to go thru this like what we did last time. They should have concentrate something more innovative to get things running easier and quicker. That's what i always told them.
That's why when i heard some bosses who screwing young guns saying they're strawberry generations, living like tofu, i always screw these bosses 1st. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Apr 26 2016, 02:15 PM)
Hi guys, just came back from KL for a week holiday. Wondering around cheras & PJ.
Construction development gone crazy looks like plenty of jobs but the pay.....
Road works everywhere and the road condition is bad....real bad.
Despite of the horror on malaysian driving style, food is the key to keep me calm.
Had most of the food you name it.

Went to Jusco & Tesco, the goods are so expensive which comparable to Oz. Sometimes even expensive say ikan bilis! Tot gonna bring in few kilos but after conversion, i better buy in Oz as cheaper than malaysia....wonder why

Yeah, bought some shoes and clothing. However, compared to previous visit, realising RM is smaller, inflation gets higher. Even we bringing in ozzie dollar, you still pay higher.
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talking about food, quality has seriously dropped (but price increased) to a level where by i don't have the urge anymore...

e.g. Melaka, used to do makan trips once or twice a month... now just don't bother... the bosses lost their passion and can't cook properly... those who have kids to take over can't do it as good as their parents... those who have nobody to pass the biz to is now cooked by some foreigner bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Apr 26 2016, 03:05 PM)
talking about food, quality has seriously dropped (but price increased) to a level where by i don't have the urge anymore...

e.g. Melaka, used to do makan trips once or twice a month... now just don't bother... the bosses lost their passion and can't cook properly... those who have kids to take over can't do it as good as their parents... those who have nobody to pass the biz to is now cooked by some foreigner bangwall.gif
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yeah, there's a chinese restaurant in PJ called new paris where i used to go those days, what they serve is crap. The taste looks different then i saw most of the cook are burmese, bangla......what the heck?
no doubt the portion is small and i paid RM6 for a bowl of wantan mee. 2 chopstick scoop, gone!
Tried nasi kandar too. Me, wife and 2 kids ate RM35! wow... confused.gif
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Apr 26 2016, 03:12 PM)
yeah, there's a chinese restaurant in PJ called new paris where i used to go those days, what they serve is crap. The taste looks different then i saw most of the cook are burmese, bangla......what the heck?
no doubt the portion is small and i paid RM6 for a bowl of wantan mee. 2 chopstick scoop, gone!
Tried nasi kandar too. Me, wife and 2 kids ate RM35! wow... confused.gif
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New Paris is famous, haven't been there for years after they couldn't maintain their standard...

seldom eat out now... its a waste of time and stomach sad.gif

well, there's goes the ONLY reason for coming back after migrating laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Apr 26 2016, 03:19 PM)
New Paris is famous, haven't been there for years after they couldn't maintain their standard...

seldom eat out now... its a waste of time and stomach sad.gif

well, there's goes the ONLY reason for coming back after migrating laugh.gif
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Well, malaysia still my home. i'll be back again during for christmas.
hope everything running smoothly there
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Dear All,

What about Canberra ? how is the opportunity there ?

btw I have a PR, and was there last year from August till end of October in Sydney. Couldnt get a job there unfortunately. I am in the IT industry. They seems to be biased against new migrants. A bit skeptical to return back. Might consider Melbourne and Canberra though.
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