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post Mar 19 2016, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(odin88 @ Mar 18 2016, 06:30 PM)
I know malaysian who work there for AWS - Amazon Web Service. But yeah pretty hard to get in.
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It is hard. U look at the detailed job requirements n some of them r impossible to fulfill unless u were working in same organization. A lot of these jobs u need to know the hiring boss to get in.
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post Mar 26 2016, 08:17 PM

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So they practice a form of cronyism there too?
The more things change the more they stay the same rclxms.gif
Meritocracy is now turning out to be a way to get people to contribute a lot initially solely on the words (and nothing written down) "your future in this organisation is going to be very bright"

QUOTE(shazam7 @ Mar 19 2016, 07:58 PM)
It is hard. U look at the detailed job requirements n some of them r impossible to fulfill unless u were working in same organization. A lot of these jobs u need to know the hiring boss to get in.
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post Mar 26 2016, 08:24 PM

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Or the employer can simply give an outlandish list of requirements, or put the salary as just above minimum wage per month in total,
then say "locals can't be found for this job, but we have an overseas candidate who qualifies".

This rort has been discussed on the whirlpool australia forums.

QUOTE(Geminist @ Mar 8 2016, 10:06 AM)
For 457, the employer needs to do a local market test to demonstrate they can't hire locals to fulfill that role.  So whether you get a 457 will be dependent on your type of profession.  I came on a 457 and the interview was done on Skype, i.e. coming to Australia on a tourist visa will not increase your chance of getting a job.  It's the profession that matters. 

For example, the infrastructure sector is currently booming and they're desperate for good people.  I know they hired a lot of foreigners from Malaysia and Singapore to fill these roles.
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post Mar 29 2016, 01:50 PM

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I am glad to found this forum post.

I am currently seriously considering to migrate to Australia with my wife. I want to just briefly summarize the step by step for skilled migration 189 visa. I briefly did the point calculation, i will have no problem reaching 60-65

My background is doing auditing. If there are fellow auditor/accountant, your input in very much appreciated. I am not sure if the process is this simple as it sounds?

1) Get IELTS, (wait 2 weeks for result)
2) Police clearance ( one day)
3) Health check ( one day)
4)Submit EOI (wait 2 weeks)
5) get ready and Certified all documents : photo, IC, passport, work employement, bank account, epf, marriage cert. birth cert, degree cert, CPA cert.(few days)
6) Get skilled assessment by CPA (1 month)
7) Waiting Invitation
8)Lodge application, pay fees (wait 3 months)
9) Wait for Visa grant ( few days)


For spouse, she only need to take the IELTS and certified passport, is it correct? the duration is only guessing.

Thanks, hopefully some guidance from forumers.
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post Mar 29 2016, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(captivesim @ Mar 29 2016, 01:50 PM)
I am glad to found this forum post.

I am currently seriously considering to migrate to Australia with my wife. I want to just briefly summarize the step by step for skilled migration 189 visa. I briefly did the point calculation,  i will have no problem reaching 60-65

My background is doing auditing. If there are fellow auditor/accountant, your input in very much appreciated. I am not sure if the process is this simple as it sounds?

1) Get IELTS, (wait 2 weeks for result)
2) Police clearance ( one day)
3) Health check ( one day)
4)Submit EOI (wait 2 weeks)
5) get ready and Certified all documents : photo, IC, passport, work employement, bank account, epf, marriage cert. birth cert, degree cert, CPA cert.(few days)
6) Get skilled assessment by CPA (1 month)
7) Waiting Invitation
8)Lodge application, pay fees (wait 3 months)
9) Wait for Visa grant ( few days)
For spouse, she only need to take the IELTS and certified passport, is it correct? the duration is only guessing.

Thanks, hopefully some guidance from forumers.
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Hi, 189 or 190 will be your option.

1) Account requires IELTS academic. at least band 7.
2) Easy, final stage
3) that's final stage
4) yeap
5) yeap
6) yeap and don't forget to pay
7) I think u need to get the invitation 1st b4 Item 2 to 6
8) yeap
9) prepare cash

check ur wife's profession. if she attended diploma or uni, no IELTS required. Just submit her cert will do. If not, she need to take IELTS say band 5? not too sure

Good luck!

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post Mar 29 2016, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(captivesim @ Mar 29 2016, 01:50 PM)
I am glad to found this forum post.

I am currently seriously considering to migrate to Australia with my wife. I want to just briefly summarize the step by step for skilled migration 189 visa. I briefly did the point calculation,  i will have no problem reaching 60-65

My background is doing auditing. If there are fellow auditor/accountant, your input in very much appreciated. I am not sure if the process is this simple as it sounds?

1) Get IELTS, (wait 2 weeks for result)
2) Police clearance ( one day)
3) Health check ( one day)
4)Submit EOI (wait 2 weeks)
5) get ready and Certified all documents : photo, IC, passport, work employement, bank account, epf, marriage cert. birth cert, degree cert, CPA cert.(few days)
6) Get skilled assessment by CPA (1 month)
7) Waiting Invitation
8)Lodge application, pay fees (wait 3 months)
9) Wait for Visa grant ( few days)
For spouse, she only need to take the IELTS and certified passport, is it correct? the duration is only guessing.

Thanks, hopefully some guidance from forumers.
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accounts/audit, if not mistaken, they've raised the min to 65 points... you can double check in border.gov.au

and maybe you want to prepare your docs, assessment and stuff first and only do EOI after July when they refresh the quota

IELTS you might need a month since a lot of people are sitting for it, 2 weeks to book a place, another 2 weeks for the results

health check can be done in a day, the doc will upload the results to DIBP in a few days, give it max 1 week at most

and if you wife has a degree and her entire course (at least 2 years, you might need to confirm this) is conducted in English, just get a completion letter from her uni and submit that instead, if cannot, just go for IELTS, simply whack also should be able to get 4.5 tongue.gif

you need to translate your birth cert by the way, and you need some time to fill in the dreaded form 80 laugh.gif

good luck bro thumbup.gif

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captivesim
post Mar 29 2016, 03:45 PM

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Thanks Nemesis and Kenji:

Let me restructure:

1) Get IELTS, (1 month to apply and get result) At least band 7 for all.
2) Submit EOI (wait 2 weeks)
3) Get invitation
4) get ready and Certified all documents : photo, IC, passport, work employement, bank account, epf, marriage cert. birth cert, degree cert, CPA cert.(few days)
5) Get skilled assessment by CPA (1 month) If I have a membership Its free
6)Lodge application, pay fees (wait 3 months)
7) Wait for Visa grant (few days)

Kenji, the minimum is still at 60 as I just checked the website, my wife has an engineering degree. Where can translate birth cert? Do we submit form 80 during lodging application ?

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post Mar 29 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(captivesim @ Mar 29 2016, 03:45 PM)
Thanks Nemesis and Kenji:

Let me restructure:

1) Get IELTS, (1 month to apply and get result) At least band 7 for all.
2) Submit EOI (wait 2 weeks)
3) Get invitation
4) get ready and Certified all documents : photo, IC, passport, work employement, bank account, epf, marriage cert. birth cert, degree cert, CPA cert.(few days)
5) Get skilled assessment by CPA (1 month) If I have a membership Its free
6)Lodge application, pay fees (wait 3 months)
7) Wait for Visa grant (few days)

Kenji, the minimum is still at 60 as I just checked the website, my wife has an engineering degree. Where can translate birth cert? Do we submit form 80 during lodging application ?
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the EOI and invitation really depends on luck, of course they try to clear off those submitted on an earlier date first, but the wait depends since there are only 2 rounds of invitation per month

you might want to get your CPA assessment done first, cos once you get invited, and you accepted the invitation, you only have 28 days to prove your points, else your visa might get rejected or worse a 2 year ban cos you over claim on points

you can get the translation from a few places, Malaysia translation association on Jalan Maharajalela for instance, or some other independent translators that say their translated docs can be used overseas and stuff like that, the Aussie High comm also have this service

Form 80 is after lodging your visa, you will or will not be assigned a case officer which will request for docs for their thorough assessment

checkout this forum bro, the moderator is an expert thumbup.gif
http://www.migrationdesk.com/forums/discus...order=post_date
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post Mar 29 2016, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Mar 29 2016, 04:07 PM)
the EOI and invitation really depends on luck, of course they try to clear off those submitted on an earlier date first, but the wait depends since there are only 2 rounds of invitation per month

you might want to get your CPA assessment done first, cos once you get invited, and you accepted the invitation, you only have 28 days to prove your points, else your visa might get rejected or worse a 2 year ban cos you over claim on points

you can get the translation from a few places, Malaysia translation association on Jalan Maharajalela for instance, or some other independent translators that say their translated docs can be used overseas and stuff like that, the Aussie High comm also have this service

Form 80 is after lodging your visa, you will or will not be assigned a case officer which will request for docs for their thorough assessment

checkout this forum bro, the moderator is an expert thumbup.gif
http://www.migrationdesk.com/forums/discus...order=post_date
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Yes, best to get all your documents ready before you submit your EOI as your are given 14 days to respond to a state invite once your EOI has been picked up.
Once you have submit all the necessary documents for the state invite, wait for DIBP invite if everything is in order.

This is my experience based on NSW SS as I just recently got an invite from NSW, submit the necessary documents and got an invite from DIBP to apply.
I actually appointed an agent to handle everything but it is easily DIY as many has mentioned. I started this process back in March 2013 from first meeting of the agency up to my current stage. Although i get my documents ready by August/Sept 2013 and submit EOI in Sept 2013 but no response. I was at the point of giving up cause IELTS and skill set was going to expiry within this couple of month. However, I was given a ray of light and now in the midst of working with my agent for the documents submission for the visa application.

Thus, there is no set timeline on when you will get an invite once you have submit your EOI but best to get it done before the start of the new fiscal year, i.e July as the quote would be refresh and you would have better chance.

Anyway, all the best with your application.
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post Mar 29 2016, 06:38 PM

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Thanks JTS19 and Kenji for the contribution!
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post Mar 30 2016, 07:45 AM

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Got my ITA last week (after 4mths of waiting)
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is it easy to get an IT job and Ads Ops job in australia? plannning to move over australia with my gf
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QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Mar 30 2016, 02:29 PM)
is it easy to get an IT job and Ads Ops job in australia? plannning to move over australia with my gf
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got your PR already bro?
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Mar 30 2016, 05:57 PM)
got your PR already bro?
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nope, not yet..didnt have any experience...so by first is get a PR only proceed to get job ? i tot having a job will be much easier to apply PR
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QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Mar 30 2016, 09:54 PM)
nope, not yet..didnt have any experience...so by first is get a PR only proceed to get job ? i tot having a job will be much easier to apply PR
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read up first bro, long way to go, good luck thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Mar 30 2016, 11:04 PM)
read up first bro, long way to go, good luck thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Mar 30 2016, 09:54 PM)
nope, not yet..didnt have any experience...so by first is get a PR only proceed to get job ? i tot having a job will be much easier to apply PR
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In order to work legally in Australia, you would need to be
- Citizen or PR or
- have valid working visa

If you don't meet the above criteria, it is close to impossible to get a job unless maybe you work illegally
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QUOTE(jtsl9 @ Mar 31 2016, 09:22 AM)
In order to work legally in Australia, you would need to be
- Citizen or PR or
- have valid working visa

If you don't meet the above criteria, it is close to impossible to get a job unless maybe you work illegally
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Thanks info. Appreciate smile.gif
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Thanks info. Appreciate smile.gif
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well, if your skills and experience is required and highly in demand, i can't see any reason why you can't apply for it cool2.gif
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Hi everyone, just finished read through the entire thread.

I am an engineering graduate from a Malaysia Private University B.E degree with 2 years of working experience (1 year technical, 1 year business development).

From what I read is that the best way to obtain a job in Australia is getting a visa/PR which doesn't comply to my current situation.

I'm wondering if getting a work & holiday visa that able to land me a minimum wages work (picking apple) for few months while trying to apply for local engineering job in SOL list will increase my chance of getting hired and visa sponsored by local employer?

In fact I've been applying jobs in Singapore over the past few months but up till now there is no feedback from their side so I might wanna directly try to jump over to Australia.

**I'm planning to move over to SG for few years before heading over to Australia previously as I know the best points I could get is within age 25~32, and I'm currently 24 only.

TL;DR: will getting a work & holiday visa for a job in OZ increase my chance of getting me permanently hired in Australia tremendously? Or is it better to get more working experience in Malaysia/SG before trying to apply for a full time job in OZ will result me a higher chance of success?

Edit: also how big of a chance for employer to sponsor for my 189/190 visa if I'm working there? Do I have to be bonded for few years with the company in normal circumstances?

This post has been edited by LovelyPotato: Apr 4 2016, 01:52 PM

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