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kagenn
post Jul 16 2021, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jul 8 2021, 07:28 PM)
The reason why Eastlakes has such a high crime rate is because there are a lot of public housing (used to be called Housing Commission). Part of Mascot which borders Eastlakes also has a lot of public housing. Never buy near public housing because crime rates are always high in those areas. Public housing is a problem that society has to face and Aust wants an egalitarian society so it tries to spread the problem across all suburbs. The most famous block of public housing is at the Rocks whereby rows of terraces were used to house these welfare recipients - some of the terraces had beautiful views of Opera House and Harbour Bridge. The govt took a long time before they managed to sell off all this houses as there was a huge public backlash and it was a political time bomb. Eventually after more than 10 years, they managed to start selling off these terraces. The govt doesn't want welfare ghettos like Claymore so is very reluctant to sell off the more expensive areas (even Vaucluse and Double Bay has quite a lot of public housing). The govt is forcing some developers into offering some parts of their development for public housing so as to spread the problem throughout society and avoid welfare ghettos  smile.gif  .
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How fair of the government, to distribute this equally biggrin.gif Not sure why they aren't phased by crime when the public housing residents will have to live beside the rich in some suburbs vs those closer to their own income level.
Ghettos will probably form anyway at some time or another when they obtain some upward mobility.

Msia has reached 13k cases/day yesterday - how are things back home so far? My parents/friends feel like the gov is dropping the ball so badly. sad.gif
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post Jul 16 2021, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 16 2021, 11:09 AM)
How fair of the government, to distribute this equally  biggrin.gif Not sure why they aren't phased by crime when the public housing residents will have to live beside the rich in some suburbs vs those closer to their own income level.
Ghettos will probably form anyway at some time or another when they obtain some upward mobility.

Msia has reached 13k cases/day yesterday - how are things back home so far? My parents/friends feel like the gov is dropping the ball so badly.  sad.gif
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I don't go out much so the mco doesn't really affect me that badly. I wouldn't like to be working in Msia at the moment because cases are so high and govt seems to have totally lost control on how to handle the pandemic. I think the poor will suffer really badly this time - at least in Sydney govt will give handouts but here the country is already so poor. Luckily i didn't bring too much money back to KL - with the ringgit dropping to US4.20, people are wondering what is going to happen next!

I like the variety of food that we are now getting (even though we cannot eat in), it is still nice to get the variety of food here and it is so cheap!! sad.gif. In Sydney, my wife and i are so sick of what we have been eating in Chinatown and Kingsford. I still dare not eat Indian and Malay food now in KL because my wife will not let me order them (she says i will get Covid because the food is dirty smile.gif . There is a eatery opposite my condo called Seng Kee Restaurant (Solaris Mont Kiara) and i buy quite a lot of my meals from them - they are quite nice!

How are you there in Sydney? It is now middle of winter so another one and a half months to go for you. I really dread winter in Sydney - where i am now, my condo is quite cool and i have not been needing to turn on the air-conditioning yet. Lately the weather in KL is very cool and it always rains in the afternoons smile.gif which keeps things a lot cooler .

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post Jul 16 2021, 01:04 PM

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How fair of the government, to distribute this equally  biggrin.gif Not sure why they aren't phased by crime when the public housing residents will have to live beside the rich in some suburbs vs those closer to their own income level.
Ghettos will probably form anyway at some time or another when they obtain some upward mobility.

Msia has reached 13k cases/day yesterday - how are things back home so far? My parents/friends feel like the gov is dropping the ball so badly.  sad.gif
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Gold standard Gladys isn't doing that great at COVID either tbh.
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post Jul 16 2021, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jul 16 2021, 11:26 AM)
I don't go out much so the mco doesn't really affect me that badly. I wouldn't like to be working in Msia at the moment because cases are so high and govt seems to have totally lost control on how to handle the pandemic. I think the poor will suffer really badly this time - at least in Sydney govt will give handouts but here the country is already so poor. Luckily i didn't bring too much money back to KL - with the ringgit dropping to US4.20, people are wondering what is going to happen next!

I like the variety of food that we are now getting (even though we cannot eat in), it is still nice to get the variety of food here and it is so cheap!!  sad.gif. In Sydney, my wife and i are so sick of what we have been eating in Chinatown and Kingsford. I still dare not eat Indian and Malay food now in KL because my wife will not let me order them (she says i will get Covid because the food is dirty  smile.gif . There is a eatery opposite my condo called Seng Kee Restaurant (Solaris Mont Kiara) and i buy quite a lot of my meals from them - they are quite nice!

How are you there in Sydney? It is now middle of winter so another one and a half months to go for you. I really dread winter in Sydney - where i am now, my condo is quite cool and i have not been needing to turn on the air-conditioning yet. Lately the weather in KL is very cool and it always rains in the afternoons  smile.gif which keeps things a lot cooler .
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You should try ordering thru Grab Food - plenty of choices .
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post Jul 16 2021, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jul 16 2021, 11:26 AM)
I don't go out much so the mco doesn't really affect me that badly. I wouldn't like to be working in Msia at the moment because cases are so high and govt seems to have totally lost control on how to handle the pandemic. I think the poor will suffer really badly this time - at least in Sydney govt will give handouts but here the country is already so poor. Luckily i didn't bring too much money back to KL - with the ringgit dropping to US4.20, people are wondering what is going to happen next!

I like the variety of food that we are now getting (even though we cannot eat in), it is still nice to get the variety of food here and it is so cheap!!  sad.gif. In Sydney, my wife and i are so sick of what we have been eating in Chinatown and Kingsford. I still dare not eat Indian and Malay food now in KL because my wife will not let me order them (she says i will get Covid because the food is dirty  smile.gif . There is a eatery opposite my condo called Seng Kee Restaurant (Solaris Mont Kiara) and i buy quite a lot of my meals from them - they are quite nice!

How are you there in Sydney? It is now middle of winter so another one and a half months to go for you. I really dread winter in Sydney - where i am now, my condo is quite cool and i have not been needing to turn on the air-conditioning yet. Lately the weather in KL is very cool and it always rains in the afternoons  smile.gif which keeps things a lot cooler .
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Those eateries must be happy to have a customer like you, but I think eating out cost about the same as cooking from home unless its in bulk.
I do miss a lots of food back home too and the cheap price. We do get diarrhea fairly often each time we eat the roadside food.
You guys eat too much at Chinatown/Kingsford tongue.gif

It's 12'c right now, but it isn't too bad - the current apartment is much better than the previous - 3'c in a 'papan' house was so damn cold. In contrast it's more than bearable with a thick jacket now without the need for a heater.

The more it rains the more mosquitoes there are, and flies too. Also floods are fairly common too with constant downpour.


QUOTE(Rand @ Jul 16 2021, 01:04 PM)
Gold standard Gladys isn't doing that great at COVID either tbh.
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Haha, can't deny that - locking down the Fairfield suburb with the current rules is too much of a rushed plan, which probably is gonna generate more discontent.
Looks pretty obvious that they weren't ready for any sudden surges like this.

Still we're a far cry from the current Msian situation (at the moment). Things do feel a lot more manageable and there's a much better chance of recovery if they play the right cards.
Not quite a fan of people calling the cops on others though, but that's the direction Aus seems to be heading in.
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post Jul 16 2021, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 16 2021, 07:47 PM)
Those eateries must be happy to have a customer like you, but I think eating out cost about the same as cooking from home unless its in bulk.
I do miss a lots of food back home too and the cheap price. We do get diarrhea fairly often each time we eat the roadside food.
You guys eat too much at Chinatown/Kingsford  tongue.gif

It's 12'c right now, but it isn't too bad - the current apartment is much better than the previous - 3'c in a 'papan' house was so damn cold. In contrast it's more than bearable with a thick jacket now without the need for a heater.

The more it rains the more mosquitoes there are, and flies too. Also floods are fairly common too with constant downpour.

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I made my money mostly in Aust so using money in KL is very cheap esp with the Aussie around 3.07 (tt rate). I change some notes in Mid-Valley about three weeks ago and i got 3.16 (i still got quite a fair bit in notes but i will wait a while as ringgit seems to be dropping quite a lot recently). There is so much variety to choose from in KL and surprisingly i have not had diarrhoea so far. I still have not tried everything yet because i am still very careful what i eat and where i buy my food from with so many Covid cases in KL (sometimes i get people to buy/deliver the food for me). I try to minimise going out and a lot of relatives here are willing to help me buy/deliver. I also try to minimise seeing my other relatives until probably next year.
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post Jul 16 2021, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(tpleong @ Jul 16 2021, 07:44 PM)
You should try ordering thru Grab Food - plenty of choices .
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Don't know what it is or maybe i am old-fashioned. I just don't like buying food online smile.gif . A lot of times, i will order the food (phone or whatsapp) and get someone (my relatives) to pick up and bring the food back to me. I know quite a few places now as i have ordered quite a lot of takeaway food since i came back to KL.
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post Jul 18 2021, 12:37 PM

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How to get PR without employment offer and having a Malaysian degree/masters? I keep hearing people say it's possible but I only see Canada having that sort of programme
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post Jul 18 2021, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(tiptop007 @ Jul 18 2021, 12:37 PM)
How to get PR without employment offer and having a Malaysian degree/masters? I keep hearing people say it's possible but I only see Canada having that sort of programme
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Google Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189)
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post Jul 18 2021, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(tiptop007 @ Jul 18 2021, 12:37 PM)
How to get PR without employment offer and having a Malaysian degree/masters? I keep hearing people say it's possible but I only see Canada having that sort of programme
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I heard can if you have RM300k to invest.
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post Jul 19 2021, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(tiptop007 @ Jul 18 2021, 12:37 PM)
How to get PR without employment offer and having a Malaysian degree/masters? I keep hearing people say it's possible but I only see Canada having that sort of programme
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If you're referring to Aus, you can check out this list:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...occupation-list

I got mine via 189 via enough points. Read it to get an idea on what jobs are available and how many points you need.

Either that or pump in money to buy your PR.

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post Jul 19 2021, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 19 2021, 08:45 AM)
If you're referring to Aus, you can check out this list:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...occupation-list

I got mine via 189 via enough points. Read it to get an idea on what jobs are available and how many points you need.

Either that or pump in money to buy your PR.
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I think a lot of rich investors can invest A$5mil and get visa 888. This is the visa class a lot of rich PRCs have got in with. A mortgage broker friend of mine told me that he has been applying a lot of loans for these rich PRCs and this is the visa with minimum fuss and approval is usually granted quite fast. I think it is called the substantial investor visa or something like that. Aussies kicked a big fuss about this when it was implemented but now everyone has quietened down now. Money talks biggrin.gif
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post Jul 19 2021, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jul 19 2021, 09:35 AM)
I think a lot of rich investors can invest A$5mil and get visa 888. This is the visa class a lot of rich PRCs have got in with. A mortgage broker friend of mine told me that he has been applying a lot of loans for these rich PRCs and this is the visa with minimum fuss and approval is usually granted quite fast. I think it is called the substantial investor visa or something like that. Aussies kicked a big fuss about this when it was implemented but now everyone has quietened down now. Money talks  biggrin.gif
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Oh yes: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getti...-investment-888

Lower end: you must have held a designated investment of AUD1.5 million for 4 years
To higher end: you must have held a complying investment of AUD15 million for the duration of your subclass 188 visa

Yeah I've also seen news where the amount of the wealthy in China are looking to get out. It will be tough as the CCP is making it harder to get money out of there. My sis-in-law + husband who worked there foir a few years were also unable to get the bulk of the local currency the earned out of the country.
Plenty of fuss going around still with the current property prices and people blaming it on the PRC folks - which inevitably spills onto some of us just cuz we look similar.


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post Jul 19 2021, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 19 2021, 11:59 AM)
Oh yes: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getti...-investment-888

Lower end: you must have held a designated investment of AUD1.5 million for 4 years
To higher end: you must have held a complying investment of AUD15 million for the duration of your subclass 188 visa

Yeah I've also seen news where the amount of the wealthy in China are looking to get out. It will be tough as the CCP is making it harder to get money out of there. My sis-in-law + husband who worked there foir a few years were also unable to get the bulk of the local currency the earned out of the country.
Plenty of fuss going around still with the current property prices and people blaming it on the PRC folks -  which inevitably spills onto some of us just cuz we look similar.
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Whenever an Asian-looking person bids in an auction, the press will always make it look like PRCs are taking over everything smile.gif . The fact that they can't tell whether we (as Malaysians) are PRCs, we all get lumped into that category tongue.gif .

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post Jul 19 2021, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 19 2021, 08:45 AM)
If you're referring to Aus, you can check out this list:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...occupation-list

I got mine via 189 via enough points. Read it to get an idea on what jobs are available and how many points you need.

Either that or pump in money to buy your PR.
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Thanks man. If you don't mind, how many points did you have? I checked and I should have ~75, not sure if that's enough realistically.
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post Jul 19 2021, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jul 19 2021, 01:20 PM)
The fact that they can't tell whether we (as Malaysians) are PRCs, we all get lumped into that category tongue.gif .
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Just something we have to live with I guess, no big deal to me - not like I'm gonna be able to afford a nice landed property anytime soon tongue.gif


QUOTE(tiptop007 @ Jul 19 2021, 04:39 PM)
Thanks man. If you don't mind, how many points did you have? I checked and I should have ~75, not sure if that's enough realistically.
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I applied back in 2013 I think, and I had 55 points (+5 for state sponsored so I ended up in Sydney) - as a software engineer. It's been gettin progressively harder to get in, and they probably want the youngest and brightest at this stage.
The scoring might also depend on the particular job/skill - heard accountants had to score more than a niche job (welder perhaps), but I've not been looking into this for a few years now & my input is quite likely outdated.
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post Jul 19 2021, 08:22 PM

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https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...vitation-rounds

Looks like visa 189 min points for last invitation is 80
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post Jul 20 2021, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(twotwopig @ Jul 19 2021, 08:22 PM)
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...vitation-rounds

Looks like visa 189 min points for last invitation is 80
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Seems like even with best English scores and age bracket, the Australian work/study experience is what will get you over the line hmm.gif

That or PhD or 8+ years work (but then you have to be careful not to slip out of the right age bracket). Tricky
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QUOTE(tiptop007 @ Jul 20 2021, 01:20 AM)
Seems like even with best English scores and age bracket, the Australian work/study experience is what will get you over the line  hmm.gif

That or PhD or 8+ years work (but then you have to be careful not to slip out of the right age bracket). Tricky
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I think it depends on your profession. Some professions that have many applicants, i.e accountants; have reached up 90 points or more.

How much does Australian study experience give you? From memory it was 5 points?

I am sure you could make that up with some overseas work experience.
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I've applied through 189 as well back in 2014 via Finance (below 30 years old), did my Bachelor's and Master's in Aus though. Requirement at that time was 65 or 70

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