QUOTE(blur_blue @ Mar 5 2016, 02:09 PM)
Right. Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia
Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia
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QUOTE(blur_blue @ Mar 5 2016, 12:26 PM) If you only holding a ETA i dont think any one would hire you even for au pair.They still need police check or even the working with children certificate thingy if not mistaken. However, if u means "jump aeroplane" and work illegally, i think thats very risky and will easily get exploited by employer. Is better that you start prepare documents needed to apply for work and holiday visa on the July. |
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QUOTE(lilfire @ Mar 5 2016, 08:05 PM) If you only holding a ETA i dont think any one would hire you even for au pair. And they'll also need a Certificate IV/ III or something of the sort as well.They still need police check or even the working with children certificate thingy if not mistaken. However, if u means "jump aeroplane" and work illegally, i think thats very risky and will easily get exploited by employer. Is better that you start prepare documents needed to apply for work and holiday visa on the July. |
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QUOTE(lilfire @ Mar 2 2016, 10:30 PM) Hi there, That's fantastic! Meaning to say I've to look for AUS agent instead!Sorry for not able to reply earlier as m busy with work and packing If your case is straight forward then yes it is cheaper to do it yourself. As for me as i'm an accountant with 60 points My agent is located in Perth and he charged me for AUD 4500 for agent fees only. Pay AUD 2200 when engaging him and AUD 2300 when PR granted. However, this is the price 1 year back. But then i can totally have a peace of mind as he is do everything for me. The only thing that i need to do myself is body check up XD Many people have the wrong mind set here that the sooner you get a case officer assigned means you'll get your PR faster. Many agent also quote that they can get a case officer assigned fast or whatsoever. But the truth is if everything you submitted is correct then you dont even got the chance to know who is your case officer coz they will just approved your case without even needing to contact you. As for me, I lodge my eoi on the 6th Nov,get invite on 11th Nov,submit everything (health check,cert of good conduct etc) by 26th Nov,pr approve in 1st Dec. Dont even have any case officer XD |
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Mar 6 2016, 11:04 PM
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How do I get an employer to sponsor my working visa before I arrive Australia? I believe that there are shortage in some jobs that the locals are not willing to do and require foreigners. I have a degree from Australia but the biggest problem now is I can't bring all my relevant certificates on a tourist visa or risk facing deportation due to intention to work. I have view a few ways but there are certain limitations:
Working Holiday Visa: Only applies to 100 lucky Malaysians yearly if not mistaken and valid for 12 months. I believe the demand will be much more and another barrier will be the hassle of extending the visa. Skilled Migration 189: The cost is the problem around AUD 6,000 I saw from few comments above. I am on a low budget and do not have so much cash plus I have relative in Melbourne and Sydney so accommodation and food will not be a problem. The best way for me is 457 by getting the employer to sponsor so I can save the visa cost and live there for at least 4 years which I believe can qualify for PR. Question is how? I can't go for an interview on a tourist visa and even if permitted, what about if I failed in the interview I have wasted the flight ticket all the way to Australia. This is not like Singapore where I can just take a bus or ETS train and return on the same day. Arghhhhhhhhhh!!! |
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QUOTE(marbel_tan @ Mar 6 2016, 11:04 PM) How do I get an employer to sponsor my working visa before I arrive Australia? I believe that there are shortage in some jobs that the locals are not willing to do and require foreigners. I have a degree from Australia but the biggest problem now is I can't bring all my relevant certificates on a tourist visa or risk facing deportation due to intention to work. I have view a few ways but there are certain limitations: Since you graduated from Australia, have you tried the graduate visa path? It's visa 485, way much cheaper than 189 and grants you 18 months with full rights to search & work in Australia.Working Holiday Visa: Only applies to 100 lucky Malaysians yearly if not mistaken and valid for 12 months. I believe the demand will be much more and another barrier will be the hassle of extending the visa. Skilled Migration 189: The cost is the problem around AUD 6,000 I saw from few comments above. I am on a low budget and do not have so much cash plus I have relative in Melbourne and Sydney so accommodation and food will not be a problem. The best way for me is 457 by getting the employer to sponsor so I can save the visa cost and live there for at least 4 years which I believe can qualify for PR. Question is how? I can't go for an interview on a tourist visa and even if permitted, what about if I failed in the interview I have wasted the flight ticket all the way to Australia. This is not like Singapore where I can just take a bus or ETS train and return on the same day. Arghhhhhhhhhh!!! If that doesn't work, I would suggest going to Singapore and save up for the cost for the 189 visa. Australia employers do tend to pay more attention towards Singapore working experience compared to Malaysian. Yet again this is just based on my observation. |
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QUOTE(Soony @ Mar 7 2016, 08:21 AM) Since you graduated from Australia, have you tried the graduate visa path? It's visa 485, way much cheaper than 189 and grants you 18 months with full rights to search & work in Australia. Unfortunately I completed my degree 3+0 as the 485 need a 2 year study period in Australia and that is more for recent graduates. Not too keen in Singapore due to their working culture and kiasu mentality.If that doesn't work, I would suggest going to Singapore and save up for the cost for the 189 visa. Australia employers do tend to pay more attention towards Singapore working experience compared to Malaysian. Yet again this is just based on my observation. This post has been edited by marbel_tan: Mar 7 2016, 05:16 PM |
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QUOTE(marbel_tan @ Mar 7 2016, 12:04 AM) How do I get an employer to sponsor my working visa before I arrive Australia? I believe that there are shortage in some jobs that the locals are not willing to do and require foreigners. I have a degree from Australia but the biggest problem now is I can't bring all my relevant certificates on a tourist visa or risk facing deportation due to intention to work. I have view a few ways but there are certain limitations: Well.. Best way for anyone without PR who wanna work here is to get a 457 sponsor..What kind of work are you looking for? Try securing for an interview before you buy your flight ticket to Australia for interview. Working Holiday Visa: Only applies to 100 lucky Malaysians yearly if not mistaken and valid for 12 months. I believe the demand will be much more and another barrier will be the hassle of extending the visa. Skilled Migration 189: The cost is the problem around AUD 6,000 I saw from few comments above. I am on a low budget and do not have so much cash plus I have relative in Melbourne and Sydney so accommodation and food will not be a problem. The best way for me is 457 by getting the employer to sponsor so I can save the visa cost and live there for at least 4 years which I believe can qualify for PR. Question is how? I can't go for an interview on a tourist visa and even if permitted, what about if I failed in the interview I have wasted the flight ticket all the way to Australia. This is not like Singapore where I can just take a bus or ETS train and return on the same day. Arghhhhhhhhhh!!! if you plan to come here to hunt for an employer who is willing to sponsor you a 457, I trust you are aware that chances of getting even an interview is very low.nthere are people who came on working holiday visa tried 1 year and still can't get a 457 to stay on in Australia. What degree did you study? Not on the skill occupation list to qualify for PR? I do know ppl who came here with 'student' visa.. They have some working rights .. Up to 20 hours a week but illegally they work more than 20 hours and the business pays them in cash. Some of them do go for classes but some don't. These are waitressing jobs... If you are looking for a proper corp job... Good luck! |
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QUOTE(marbel_tan @ Mar 6 2016, 03:04 PM) How do I get an employer to sponsor my working visa before I arrive Australia? I believe that there are shortage in some jobs that the locals are not willing to do and require foreigners. I have a degree from Australia but the biggest problem now is I can't bring all my relevant certificates on a tourist visa or risk facing deportation due to intention to work. I have view a few ways but there are certain limitations: For 457, the employer needs to do a local market test to demonstrate they can't hire locals to fulfill that role. So whether you get a 457 will be dependent on your type of profession. I came on a 457 and the interview was done on Skype, i.e. coming to Australia on a tourist visa will not increase your chance of getting a job. It's the profession that matters. Working Holiday Visa: Only applies to 100 lucky Malaysians yearly if not mistaken and valid for 12 months. I believe the demand will be much more and another barrier will be the hassle of extending the visa. Skilled Migration 189: The cost is the problem around AUD 6,000 I saw from few comments above. I am on a low budget and do not have so much cash plus I have relative in Melbourne and Sydney so accommodation and food will not be a problem. The best way for me is 457 by getting the employer to sponsor so I can save the visa cost and live there for at least 4 years which I believe can qualify for PR. Question is how? I can't go for an interview on a tourist visa and even if permitted, what about if I failed in the interview I have wasted the flight ticket all the way to Australia. This is not like Singapore where I can just take a bus or ETS train and return on the same day. Arghhhhhhhhhh!!! For example, the infrastructure sector is currently booming and they're desperate for good people. I know they hired a lot of foreigners from Malaysia and Singapore to fill these roles. |
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QUOTE(marbel_tan @ Mar 6 2016, 11:04 PM) How do I get an employer to sponsor my working visa before I arrive Australia? I believe that there are shortage in some jobs that the locals are not willing to do and require foreigners. I have a degree from Australia but the biggest problem now is I can't bring all my relevant certificates on a tourist visa or risk facing deportation due to intention to work. I have view a few ways but there are certain limitations: 1) get your CV send to the company thru seekdotcomdotauWorking Holiday Visa: Only applies to 100 lucky Malaysians yearly if not mistaken and valid for 12 months. I believe the demand will be much more and another barrier will be the hassle of extending the visa. Skilled Migration 189: The cost is the problem around AUD 6,000 I saw from few comments above. I am on a low budget and do not have so much cash plus I have relative in Melbourne and Sydney so accommodation and food will not be a problem. The best way for me is 457 by getting the employer to sponsor so I can save the visa cost and live there for at least 4 years which I believe can qualify for PR. Question is how? I can't go for an interview on a tourist visa and even if permitted, what about if I failed in the interview I have wasted the flight ticket all the way to Australia. This is not like Singapore where I can just take a bus or ETS train and return on the same day. Arghhhhhhhhhh!!! 2) google for the potential company. try not to apply thru agent coz most of them are $hit 3) if your experience is transferable and in demand, there's not reason why they can't get you onboard. Noted that the employer have to pay your 457 visa fees and salary tax @ $90k/annum. So, think about which company or industry willing to pay? |
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QUOTE(marbel_tan @ Mar 7 2016, 08:38 AM) Unfortunately I completed my degree 3+0 as the 485 need a 2 year study period in Australia and that is more for recent graduates. Not too keen in Singapore due to their working culture and kiasu mentality. you could try apply those asian companies which established in Oz. I knew some malaysian companies in Oz like spsetia, hicom...my previous employer who's arab employing a lot of migrants say 70%. big and nice company. Pay is not bad and they sponsor 457 too. I remember they even employ refugees who came from war torn countries who's engineers and skilled worker. I think the boss is generous and good but just the working culture is not suitable for ozzies. |
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QUOTE(marbel_tan @ Mar 7 2016, 10:38 AM) Don't mind me asking, are Singaporeans that difficult to get along with?I have a number of Singaporean friends and distance Singaporean relatives. They are all terribly nice especially the relatives whenever we visit Singapore. This post has been edited by ssurrey: Mar 8 2016, 11:39 AM |
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QUOTE(evieta @ Mar 8 2016, 05:23 AM) Well.. Best way for anyone without PR who wanna work here is to get a 457 sponsor..What kind of work are you looking for? Try securing for an interview before you buy your flight ticket to Australia for interview. My degree is Bachelor of Commerce (Major Marketing & Management) so I guess it's not really in demand as they are looking more for engineers and nurses etc. if you plan to come here to hunt for an employer who is willing to sponsor you a 457, I trust you are aware that chances of getting even an interview is very low.nthere are people who came on working holiday visa tried 1 year and still can't get a 457 to stay on in Australia. What degree did you study? Not on the skill occupation list to qualify for PR? I do know ppl who came here with 'student' visa.. They have some working rights .. Up to 20 hours a week but illegally they work more than 20 hours and the business pays them in cash. Some of them do go for classes but some don't. These are waitressing jobs... If you are looking for a proper corp job... Good luck! Honestly not too choosy into job selection as it's just for temporary until I obtain the PR hopefully. I got a friend who work as a front desk in a hotel until he got his PR but in my case even retail shop, shopping center, supermarket will do. |
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QUOTE(Geminist @ Mar 8 2016, 10:06 AM) For 457, the employer needs to do a local market test to demonstrate they can't hire locals to fulfill that role. So whether you get a 457 will be dependent on your type of profession. I came on a 457 and the interview was done on Skype, i.e. coming to Australia on a tourist visa will not increase your chance of getting a job. It's the profession that matters. Hmmm u mean the agricultural like fruit picking? Yea heard the pay is not bad and a lot of working holiday people does it. Any recommendation? =)For example, the infrastructure sector is currently booming and they're desperate for good people. I know they hired a lot of foreigners from Malaysia and Singapore to fill these roles. |
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Mar 8 2016, 11:28 AM) you could try apply those asian companies which established in Oz. I knew some malaysian companies in Oz like spsetia, hicom... Thanks bro. I'll research on that.my previous employer who's arab employing a lot of migrants say 70%. big and nice company. Pay is not bad and they sponsor 457 too. I remember they even employ refugees who came from war torn countries who's engineers and skilled worker. I think the boss is generous and good but just the working culture is not suitable for ozzies. |
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QUOTE(ssurrey @ Mar 8 2016, 11:38 AM) Don't mind me asking, are Singaporeans that difficult to get along with? It's because you visit them as a tourist but at work is totally different environment. They work till late at night and there is some kind of sarcasm towards Malaysians.I have a number of Singaporean friends and distance Singaporean relatives. They are all terribly nice especially the relatives whenever we visit Singapore. |
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