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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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Le Don
post Mar 22 2016, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2016, 04:15 PM)
CPO...apasal my Ta Ann kaboom then? doh.gif
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While we expect Ta Ann to benefit from the higher CPO price environment and its FFB growth trajectory, this would be offset by the rising risk of MYR/USD trend reversal as well as lower log and plywood prices

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post Mar 22 2016, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2016, 04:15 PM)
CPO...apasal my Ta Ann kaboom then? doh.gif
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ta ann not involve in timber business meh? hmm.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 04:24 PM

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1+1-1=1

So, neutral on Ta Ann? laugh.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2016, 04:01 PM)
Any counters that imports raw materials?

I think of Carlsberg hmm.gif
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Nestle.. tongue.gif (wheat flour)

Brewers (Hops & Barley)

milk, sugar... rice...

Basically you see those who crash when USD up that time lah. laugh.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 22 2016, 04:44 PM
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post Mar 22 2016, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2016, 04:24 PM)
1+1-1=1

So, neutral on Ta Ann? laugh.gif
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RM up.. not good for CPO and timber business

CPO because fighting soybean oil denominated in USD

and timber sell in USD tongue.gif

So more like 1-1-1 = -2 blink.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 22 2016, 04:42 PM
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post Mar 22 2016, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 22 2016, 04:42 PM)
RM up.. not good for CPO and timber business

CPO because fighting soybean oil denominated in USD

and timber sell in USD  tongue.gif

So more like 1-1-1 = -2  blink.gif
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL laugh.gif
Unker, kau ni engineer? I dare not stay in a structure built by u icon_question.gif

QUOTE(gark @ Mar 22 2016, 04:40 PM)
Nestle..  tongue.gif (wheat flour)

Brewers (Hops & Barley)

Basically you see those who crash when USD up that time lah.  laugh.gif
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Nestle Carlsberg already at peak of their recent chart yawn.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Mar 22 2016, 04:45 PM
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post Mar 22 2016, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2016, 04:44 PM)
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL laugh.gif
Unker, kau ni engineer? I dare not stay in a structure built by u icon_question.gif
Nestle Carlsberg already at peak of their recent chart yawn.gif
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Oops.. 1-1-1 = -1 blush.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 04:47 PM

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Oh yeah electrical power too.. cause coal/gas price is in USD .. higher RM = cheaper electricity. brows.gif

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post Mar 22 2016, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 22 2016, 04:42 PM)
RM up.. not good for CPO and timber business

CPO because fighting soybean oil denominated in USD

and timber sell in USD  tongue.gif

So more like 1-1-1 = -2  blink.gif
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actually i was thinking this is true since last time during 2007, USD climb to 3.7.. CPO price soar like crazy.

But last year until now, 1 USD reach to RM 4, oil price crashed causing soya bean price crashed too, which cause CPO drop in price since it is highly correlated to soya bean.

Guess it is all about crude price oil then tongue.gif. wub.gif

more like 1+0-1 to me icon_idea.gif

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post Mar 22 2016, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 22 2016, 04:47 PM)
Oh yeah electrical power too.. cause coal/gas price is in USD .. higher RM = cheaper electricity.  brows.gif
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Malakof hmm.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 22 2016, 04:53 PM)
actually i was thinking this is true since last time during 2007, USD climb to 3.7.. CPO price soar like crazy.

But last year until now, 1 USD reach to RM 4, oil price crashed causing soya bean price crashed too, which cause CPO drop in price since it is highly correlated to soya bean.

Guess it is all about crude price oil then tongue.gifwub.gif

more like 1+0-1 to me  icon_idea.gif
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2007 oil price is at super high lar.. so equation terbalik.. tongue.gif

Now 2016 oil price still at record low.. tongue.gif

I always have CPO stocks in my portfolio.. because I believe there will be one day MY and ID will run out of plant able land. devil.gif devil.gif devil.gif

Malaysia is more or less full, Indonesia will be soon ... after that will left africa and south america, each which has it's host of problems.

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 22 2016, 05:01 PM
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post Mar 22 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 22 2016, 04:56 PM)
2007 oil price is at super high lar.. so equation terbalik..  tongue.gif

Now 2016 oil price still at record low..  tongue.gif

I always have CPO stocks in my portfolio.. because I believe there will be one day MY and ID will run out of plant able land.  devil.gif  devil.gif  devil.gif

Malaysia is more or less full, Indonesia will be soon ... after that will left africa and south america, each which has it's host of problems.
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What do you think about waseong planting palm oil trees in congo?
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post Mar 22 2016, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Mar 22 2016, 05:11 PM)
What do you think about waseong planting palm oil trees in congo?
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Its a new area, and is full of problems and infra is even worse than Indonesia. Felda tried it, Sime Darby tried it, wilmar tried it.. all still not making money there.

Maybe in another 10-20 years lah. IF.. no civil war, genocide or disease outbreak happens.. rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 22 2016, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 22 2016, 04:47 PM)
Oh yeah electrical power too.. cause coal/gas price is in USD .. higher RM = cheaper electricity.  brows.gif
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Aiya. After it rallied and the 1st on the top gainers only you mentioned. doh.gif

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post Mar 22 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Mar 22 2016, 05:38 PM)
Aiya. After it rallied and the 1st on the top gainers only you mentioned.  doh.gif

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Haha.. no one ask the question leh.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 22 2016, 04:56 PM)
2007 oil price is at super high lar.. so equation terbalik..  tongue.gif

Now 2016 oil price still at record low..  tongue.gif

I always have CPO stocks in my portfolio.. because I believe there will be one day MY and ID will run out of plant able land.  devil.gif  devil.gif  devil.gif

Malaysia is more or less full, Indonesia will be soon ... after that will left africa and south america, each which has it's host of problems.
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Actually, just wondering how much time do you spend on analysing your current and new/prospective stocks in MY, SG, ID and in US plus all the other ETFs, Bonds, FDs and other instruments that u invest in plus keeping up to-date on the status of your overall investment portfolio.

Really curious to know as I'm considering investing in SG and US stocks later this year or next. But MY stocks already quite a handful. Currently covering about 32 stocks, planning to increase it to say 60 by end of this year. Monitoring on the price movement for some stocks prolly about 100.

For me the tough part is:
a. doing the initial ground work - research and familiarising with the industry. Depending on how detail I go, can take a full day to a couple of days.
b. updating the overall portfolio and watchlist - on news, fundamentals, charts etc. Can take a few days to wrap up everything. @_@

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post Mar 22 2016, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Mar 22 2016, 05:48 PM)
Actually, just wondering how much time and do you spend on analysing your current and new/prospective stocks in MY, SG, ID and in US plus all the other ETFs, Bonds, FDs and other instruments that u invest in plus keeping up to-date on the status of your overall investment portfolio.

Really curious to know as I'm considering investing in SG and US stocks later this year or next. But MY stocks already quite a handful. Currently covering about 32 stocks, planning to increase it to  say 60 by end of this year. Monitoring on the price movement for some stocks prolly about 100.

For me the tough part is:
a. doing the initial ground work - research and familiarising with the industry. Depending on how detail I go, can take a full day to a couple of days.
b. updating the overall portfolio and watchlist - on news, fundamentals, charts etc. Can take a few days to wrap up everything. @_@
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Takes really long.. not enough time. When I started to invest in IDX and SGX... i end up ignore my MY stocks.. doh.gif

For me I can only manage about 20-30 stocks at most. tongue.gif
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Wow you guys 32 stocks.. I never go more than 10 at a time.
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post Mar 22 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2016, 04:15 PM)
CPO...apasal my Ta Ann kaboom then? doh.gif
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You have to whistling.gif tell everyone you have insider tipz..mah..

CPO increase but

1) RM strengthen
2) Minimum salary increase
3) Get tax - previous tax empted when CPO very weak
4) El Nino - fruit not highest grade

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post Mar 22 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2016, 04:15 PM)
CPO...apasal my Ta Ann kaboom then? doh.gif
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Sales = price x volume
El Nino effect - price up but volume down

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