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post Apr 12 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 12 2017, 04:06 PM)
Whose call is it to redeem or not? Is it redeemable at full discretion of the company?

If yes, I think it's fair to treat it as equity.
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post Apr 12 2017, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Apr 12 2017, 04:13 PM)
Accountant language, tak faham  rclxub.gif
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post Apr 12 2017, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 12 2017, 04:06 PM)
Whose call is it to redeem or not? Is it redeemable at full discretion of the company?

If yes, I think it's fair to treat it as equity.
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Yes at discretion of company...

But the step up interest.. means it not actually perpetual.. just debt in disguise. tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2017, 05:20 PM

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I just came into the office. Wah, so many posts here already.

Currently I am eyeing Homeriz. The price has been falling. The company is cash rich and pays good dividend. Potential upside is 13.85%.

Any sifus holding this counter?
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post Apr 12 2017, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 12 2017, 05:20 PM)
I just came into the office. Wah, so many posts here already.

Currently I am eyeing Homeriz. The price has been falling. The company is cash rich and pays good dividend. Potential upside is 13.85%.

Any sifus holding this counter?
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QR coming out soon? dont want to wait?
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post Apr 12 2017, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 12 2017, 05:31 PM)
QR coming out soon? dont want to wait?
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Hmm, you have a good point there. But it is a gamble. If I buy now and the QR sucks, then the share price may plunge. On the other hand, if the QR is good, then the share price may spike. Then I have to chase like mad on the day the QR come out. Decision, decision.
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post Apr 12 2017, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 12 2017, 05:20 PM)
I just came into the office. Wah, so many posts here already.

Currently I am eyeing Homeriz. The price has been falling. The company is cash rich and pays good dividend. Potential upside is 13.85%.

Any sifus holding this counter?
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if you really going to trust analyst TP, you might as well buy Ekovest for 83% 'upside potential'.
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post Apr 12 2017, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 12 2017, 06:07 PM)
if you really going to trust analyst TP, you might as well buy Ekovest for 83% 'upside potential'.
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Don't have such upside potential wor. Vanguard's balls only shows an upside potential of 23.80% for Ekovest. But I am not really interested in Ekovest for now.

I am looking for stocks with good DY. Otherwise my heart cannot take it.
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post Apr 12 2017, 09:50 PM

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Anyone attending HEIM's AGM tomorrow ?
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post Apr 12 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 12 2017, 06:18 PM)
Don't have such upside potential wor. Vanguard's balls only shows an upside potential of 23.80% for Ekovest. But I am not really interested in Ekovest for now.

I am looking for stocks with good DY. Otherwise my heart cannot take it.
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What criteria do you use for good DY?
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post Apr 13 2017, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 12 2017, 01:06 PM)
You need to do more indepth research lar... otherwise misleading.

GFM is a RTO from AsiaEP, so it is essentially a new company, past results is irrelevant.

NTA is 14 SEN.. not RM based on diluted shares
EPS is 0.59 sen based on diluted shares.

So at current price you are looking at PE 27X, PBV 4.71, even if they pay 40% dividend the expected DY will be  1.43% only

Sorry not my cup of tea,...  yawn.gif

P/S : I did all that research in less than 10 minutes.. so no excuse for not doing due diligence.  tongue.gif
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Paiseh gark, wanna ask a quick question on how you calculate to get the NTA as 14 cents ya? The NTA i know is total equity/total number of shares correct?
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post Apr 13 2017, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Apr 13 2017, 12:33 AM)
Paiseh gark, wanna ask a quick question on how you calculate to get the NTA as 14 cents ya? The NTA i know is total equity/total number of shares correct?
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The way to calculate NTA is to first go to the company's balance sheet, take the total assets, deduct all intangible assets (the two big ones are usually labelled 'Goodwill' and 'Intangibles') and then deduct total liabilities. To get the NTA per share, you divide this figure by the number of shares outstanding.
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post Apr 13 2017, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 12 2017, 10:00 PM)
What criteria do you use for good DY?
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The usual criteria bro. Look at the overall performance of the company, ie EPS, PE ratio, ROE, cash flow, etc.

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post Apr 13 2017, 07:31 AM

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Stock Watch : Zhulian

Who dares to go in today to goreng this overvalued stock?
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post Apr 13 2017, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 13 2017, 07:31 AM)
Stock Watch : Zhulian

Who dares to go in today to goreng this overvalued stock?
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Declining revenue. Wouldn't say that it's an undervalued stock

This post has been edited by shankar_dass93: Apr 13 2017, 07:45 AM
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post Apr 13 2017, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 13 2017, 07:31 AM)
Stock Watch : Zhulian

Who dares to go in today to goreng this overvalued stock?
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zhulian 5131
wah..
dividend got 0.015 cents

highest 52week 1.96
now 1.9.
i will enter 1.87 smile.gif
if got,
since sold HAIO.
havent buy anyshare.. smile.gif
hahahaha

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post Apr 13 2017, 08:07 AM

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maybank buy, target price 9.90


Malayan Banking - Well Positioned For Growth
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post Apr 13 2017, 08:29 AM

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SPSSETIA is a counter that with good fundamental, the price not even move even after 50 days released of QR, i wonder why....
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post Apr 13 2017, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 13 2017, 08:29 AM)
SPSSETIA is a counter that with good fundamental, the price not even move even after 50 days released of QR, i wonder why....
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no more Tan Sri Liew effect liao
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post Apr 13 2017, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 13 2017, 08:31 AM)
no more Tan Sri Liew effect liao
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these probably the classic reason why some trader prefer goreng rather than fundamental.

perhaps capped by analyst TP.

This post has been edited by lowya: Apr 13 2017, 08:46 AM
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