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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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gark
post Feb 21 2017, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2017, 06:54 PM)
There's much difference in personal ability.
Some can play many stocks at one time.
Many can't.
Some can play with 2-3 stocks at one go.
Many can't.

And .....one really wouldn't know what exactly is good for one self....unless one test each method out extensively.

Why?

Cos...don't we want to attack the market with our best gung phew?

So during all the extensive  testing .....

Do we want to use real money and die a thousand deaths?

Or do we want to be smart and test it out in a lab where it doesn't cost us plenty of innoceny money when we farkk up?
Ooops....shyte.... garment ah?

Errr....
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Concentration of portfolio is a double edge sword. If you guess correctly, you win big, but if not you will lose big also (or opportunity loss).

In a diversified portfolio, you have both chances of win and lose, but at smaller quantum so you get a more moderate results.

It depends on which style you like, or which is more suitable for you. Even doing the best homework and the best tools, you will end up with some mistakes.

For me I like some diversification, but not over diversified tongue.gif Max 20% capital in any 1 counter is my hard limit, so I don't accidentally lose everything. laugh.gif
Boon3
post Feb 21 2017, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 07:01 PM)
Concentration of portfolio is a double edge sword. If you guess correctly, you win big, but if not you will lose big also (or opportunity loss).

In a diversified portfolio, you have both chances of win and lose, but at smaller quantum so you get a more moderate results.

It depends on which style you like, or which is more suitable for you. Even doing the best homework and the best tools, you will end up with some mistakes.

For me I like some diversification, but not over diversified  tongue.gif Max 20% capital in any 1 counter is my hard limit, so I don't accidentally lose everything.  laugh.gif
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There's this called risk managent. tongue.gif
gark
post Feb 21 2017, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2017, 07:06 PM)
There's this called risk managent. tongue.gif
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Cut loss? ... I have not master that yet... used to holding for long time.. laugh.gif
Boon3
post Feb 21 2017, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 07:09 PM)
Cut loss? ... I have not master that yet...  used to holding for long time..  laugh.gif
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Lol. No. tongue.gif

Expectancy + position sizing.

Trading topic but it makes perfect sense for any investor to incorporate.

In short, it suggests to you how much you should allocate to a stock counter with the risk managed.


Some investors are better off as a trader.
Some traders are better off as an investor.

How will we know what we are?

Well....years and years of fake trading (investing also can).


You? Ah Gark? You can actually be a damn good trader.

I think.


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gark
post Feb 21 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2017, 07:18 PM)
Lol. No. tongue.gif

Expectancy + position sizing.

Trading topic but it makes perfect sense for any investor to incorporate.

In short, it suggests to you how much you should allocate to a stock counter with the risk managed.
Some investors are better off as a trader.
Some traders are better off as an investor.

How will we know what we are?

Well....years and years of fake trading (investing also can).
You? Ah Gark? You can actually be a damn good trader.

I think.
laugh.gif
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Haha I can hardly trade, not much time to watch the market.. tongue.gif

Need you to show more example .. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
river.sand
post Feb 21 2017, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2017, 01:51 PM)
Magni tech?  tongue.gif
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Bought this stock a few months ago. But in another forum, people said this company manipulate its accounts.
Ayam scared, so sold it off already sweat.gif made quite a bit money though...
yhtan
post Feb 22 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2017, 07:18 PM)
Lol. No. tongue.gif

Expectancy + position sizing.

Trading topic but it makes perfect sense for any investor to incorporate.

In short, it suggests to you how much you should allocate to a stock counter with the risk managed.
Some investors are better off as a trader.
Some traders are better off as an investor.

How will we know what we are?

Well....years and years of fake trading (investing also can).
You? Ah Gark? You can actually be a damn good trader.

I think.
laugh.gif
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oh gosh, i am rojak of both doh.gif


SUSPink Spider
post Feb 22 2017, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 21 2017, 10:12 PM)
Bought this stock a few months ago. But in another forum, people said this company manipulate its accounts.
Ayam scared, so sold it off already sweat.gif made quite a bit money though...
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Forum is toxic la whistling.gif
SUSPink Spider
post Feb 22 2017, 09:54 AM

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Got RM10K cash from credit card at 2.88% flat interest i.e. 5%+ effective rate. Any tipsy? hmm.gif
Took this cash because so far my portfolio returning me IRR of 19%, so I GUESS 5% should be easy to beat blush.gif

Preferably a stock from my current portfolio

notworthy.gif

Matrix Concepts gonna announce results and its quarterly divvy this week. Optimistic? hmm.gif

Unker gark why CPO futures suddenly so bearish? Temporary, or normalisation?

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 22 2017, 09:57 AM
max_cavalera
post Feb 22 2017, 09:55 AM

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Retail kinda rebouncing la 🤔

Just got an update Kmart also doing so well in US recently....
gark
post Feb 22 2017, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 22 2017, 09:54 AM)
Got RM10K cash from credit card at 2.88% flat interest i.e. 5%+ effective rate. Any tipsy? hmm.gif
Took this cash because so far my portfolio returning me IRR of 19%, so I GUESS 5% should be easy to beat blush.gif

Preferably a stock from my current portfolio

notworthy.gif

Matrix Concepts gonna announce results and its quarterly divvy this week. Optimistic? hmm.gif

Unker gark why CPO futures suddenly so bearish? Temporary, or normalisation?
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Tipsy : Never invest with debt. tongue.gif

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CPO has run too high and too deep, some pullback should be expected. Also USD looks to be weakening in the horizon, so CPO price expect to come down. Even at RM 2,800/ton also most plantation makes money hand over fist already. laugh.gif
SUSPink Spider
post Feb 22 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 10:12 AM)
Tipsy : Never invest with debt.  tongue.gif

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CPO has run too high and too deep, some pullback should be expected. Also USD looks to be weakening in the horizon, so CPO price expect to come down. Even at RM 2,800/ton also most plantation makes money hand over fist alreadylaugh.gif
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Ok, ini cukup liao wub.gif
Boon3
post Feb 22 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 22 2017, 09:31 AM)
oh gosh, i am rojak of both doh.gif
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Doesn't matter ma...
My point is playing with your best skill.
Which means....
Is rojak really your best?
Or maybe investing?
Or maybe trading?

Who knows....
Maybe trading is your best game....

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SUSPink Spider
post Feb 22 2017, 10:38 AM

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Air Tony 2.80 liao rclxms.gif

Can see 3.00 after announce results? brows.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:48 AM

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the air asia warrant guy got hope d?
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 22 2017, 09:54 AM)
Got RM10K cash from credit card at 2.88% flat interest i.e. 5%+ effective rate. Any tipsy?
Took this cash because so far my portfolio returning me IRR of 19%, so I GUESS 5% should be easy to beat

Preferably a stock from my current portfolio

notworthy.gif

Matrix Concepts gonna announce results and its quarterly divvy this week. Optimistic?

Unker gark why CPO futures suddenly so bearish? Temporary, or normalisation?
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2017, 10:12 AM)
Tipsy : Never invest with debt.  tongue.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


CPO has run too high and too deep, some pullback should be expected. Also USD looks to be weakening in the horizon, so CPO price expect to come down. Even at RM 2,800/ton also most plantation makes money hand over fist already.  laugh.gif
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Yea margin is more feasible, interest 4%++
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 22 2017, 10:18 AM)
laugh.gif

Doesn't matter ma...
My point is playing with your best skill.
Which means....
Is rojak really your best?
Or maybe investing?
Or maybe trading?

Who knows....
Maybe trading is your best game....

tongue.gif
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the problem is i don't know which one is my best sweat.gif

Can help me or not? give me some tipsy will do tongue.gif
SUSPink Spider
post Feb 22 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 22 2017, 11:48 AM)
Yea margin is more feasible, interest 4%++
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Cos I'm using some of it to settle my other credit card balances

So, basically I'm using some and investing some, thus I took up the 2.88% cash loan offer smile.gif
Coup De Grace
post Feb 22 2017, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 22 2017, 09:54 AM)
Got RM10K cash from credit card at 2.88% flat interest i.e. 5%+ effective rate. Any tipsy? hmm.gif
Took this cash because so far my portfolio returning me IRR of 19%, so I GUESS 5% should be easy to beat blush.gif

Preferably a stock from my current portfolio

notworthy.gif

Matrix Concepts gonna announce results and its quarterly divvy this week. Optimistic? hmm.gif

Unker gark why CPO futures suddenly so bearish? Temporary, or normalisation?
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U don't consider to take back your old lover, Padini?

This post has been edited by Coup De Grace: Feb 22 2017, 01:53 PM
SUSPink Spider
post Feb 22 2017, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Feb 22 2017, 01:51 PM)
U don't consider to take back your old lover, Padini?
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She left me for an angmoh at a faraway land liao sad.gif
SUSlowya
post Feb 22 2017, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 22 2017, 01:58 PM)
She left me for an angmoh at a faraway land liao sad.gif
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she is 20 and angmo is 97 right?

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