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petirbuas
post Dec 16 2017, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Cruzer @ Dec 16 2017, 08:47 AM)
Actually its already disclosed in  annual report on overall compensation of material risk takers . I am sure you will be able to do the math on how many people and average compensation of these guys. Then you can guesstimate a middle management is making in these units . Cheers
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I don't even know some of those word. But I'll summarize that 25k is quite average in your line with average performance.

I guess you need to bring in at least 5mil a year to the company to warrant 25k salary?
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post Dec 16 2017, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Dec 16 2017, 09:07 AM)
Previous move reasons basically is not challenging, no appreciation and 50%increments offers.. same goes to now again, within half year+, I got additional 1 offer from 4.5k to 6k+about 35%increments again..
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Why bother with 35%? Break free from that HR crap. Ask for what you want. Try, lets say 8k

- They already know you can do the task
- They know they can trust you
- Hiring process is tedious and sucks for company. It cost money, time and morale. 1/10 not reccommended

Stop thinking company behave like you and me. 2k for us is better car and house. 2k for company is that 1 time your director eat out at upscale restaurant. Or that new state-of-the-art coffee machine that nobody know how to use.

1. "But I don't want to be an opportunist. They're my friend"
You're gambling your future in new company. Why bother joining if its not worth it. If they made it, bravo, but you're unlikely to get anything fat. If they don't make it, you're farked too.

2. "But that salary is too much for my age. I'll be doing the same thing as now"
How do you think people got 20k salary? Wait for latuk generous offer? No, they asked for it.
As for the type of work, I think there misconception. I'm paid quite decent amount now, doing the same thing I'm doing when I was paid 2k/month. Lots of others can resonate too.

Take a chance. Overconfident is bad. But not knowing your self worth is even worse.

I hope you've read this http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation
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post Dec 19 2017, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Dec 16 2017, 07:10 PM)
Why bother with 35%? Break free from that HR crap. Ask for what you want. Try, lets say 8k

- They already know you can do the task
- They know they can trust you
- Hiring process is tedious and sucks for company. It cost money, time and morale. 1/10 not reccommended

Stop thinking company behave like you and me. 2k for us is better car and house. 2k for company is that 1 time your director eat out at upscale restaurant. Or that new state-of-the-art coffee machine that nobody know how to use.

1. "But I don't want to be an opportunist. They're my friend"
You're gambling your future in new company. Why bother joining if its not worth it. If they made it, bravo, but you're unlikely to get anything fat. If they don't make it, you're farked too.

2. "But that salary is too much for my age. I'll be doing the same thing as now"
How do you think people got 20k salary? Wait for latuk generous offer? No, they asked for it.
As for the type of work, I think there misconception. I'm paid quite decent amount now, doing the same thing I'm doing when I was paid 2k/month. Lots of others can resonate too.

Take a chance. Overconfident is bad. But not knowing your self worth is even worse.

I hope you've read this http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation
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post Dec 20 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Dec 16 2017, 07:10 PM)
Why bother with 35%? Break free from that HR crap. Ask for what you want. Try, lets say 8k

- They already know you can do the task
- They know they can trust you
- Hiring process is tedious and sucks for company. It cost money, time and morale. 1/10 not reccommended

Stop thinking company behave like you and me. 2k for us is better car and house. 2k for company is that 1 time your director eat out at upscale restaurant. Or that new state-of-the-art coffee machine that nobody know how to use.

1. "But I don't want to be an opportunist. They're my friend"
You're gambling your future in new company. Why bother joining if its not worth it. If they made it, bravo, but you're unlikely to get anything fat. If they don't make it, you're farked too.

2. "But that salary is too much for my age. I'll be doing the same thing as now"
How do you think people got 20k salary? Wait for latuk generous offer? No, they asked for it.
As for the type of work, I think there misconception. I'm paid quite decent amount now, doing the same thing I'm doing when I was paid 2k/month. Lots of others can resonate too.

Take a chance. Overconfident is bad. But not knowing your self worth is even worse.

I hope you've read this http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation
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agreed with you. but that's likely not in malaysian context.

for us, it is the companies are with upper hand, most of the time.


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post Dec 20 2017, 11:55 AM

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normally web designer salary is can go max how much?
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post Dec 20 2017, 03:57 PM

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Job Title : HSE Manager
Years spent in company : almost a year in this 4th company, almost 2 years in 3rd company, almost 1 year in second company, 1 year in 1st company.
Industry : O&G
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining : 4 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master Degree
salary : RM14,000.00
Location: Labuan
Age: 27

a lot of jumping from another company to another company due to receive better offer from each.

am i on par with this? if i change to another company being the 5th, is it possible for me to reach 20k or will i be paid the same or less since it's a tough market now.

thank you for your opinions sifus.
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post Dec 21 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Dec 20 2017, 03:57 PM)
Job Title : HSE Manager
Years spent in company : almost a year in this 4th company, almost 2 years in 3rd company, almost 1 year in second company, 1 year in 1st company.
Industry : O&G
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining : 4 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master Degree
salary : RM14,000.00
Location: Labuan
Age: 27

a lot of jumping from another company to another company due to receive better offer from each.

am i on par with this? if i change to another company being the 5th, is it possible for me to reach 20k or will i be paid the same or less since it's a tough market now.

thank you for your opinions sifus.
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Only RM14K?
With your years of experience I think should be around the region of RM50K. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 21 2017, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(State9 @ Jan 6 2017, 04:11 PM)
Anyone working in Top Glove? I gt an offer to be their chemist. How much is the salary range? I am scared to ask too much and lose it. Lol
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Hi there,
Dont be too worry on that. They have a fixed salary range. So do you get the job?
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post Dec 21 2017, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Hannah365 @ Jan 6 2017, 06:15 PM)
I was offered 2.7k two years ago to be their production engineer  smile.gif
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I think the salary range increased. It pretty much depends on your results, which is CGPA.

If you are second class upper, then maybe RM2.8k; if first class, then RM3k.

For chemist, it is RM200 lower than engineer.

Anyone with second upper, RM2.6k; first class, RM2.8k.


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post Dec 21 2017, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(OcHaa @ Jan 6 2017, 08:18 PM)
1)whats ur experience when it comes to chemist?
2) how much did they offer u? (basic / allowance)
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I think top glove normally employ fresh grad, seldom employ ppl with experience, unless from other glove manufacturing plant.

Typically basic salary is based on CGPA. Allowance per month is about RM240 for those driving; Saturday working allowance is about RM60, if not mistaken. Sunday working allowance is RM15 per hour.
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post Dec 21 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Hannah365 @ Jan 7 2017, 01:40 PM)
Nope..the manager allow me a tour of the factory during the interview..i decided that i don't like the working environment
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Haha, a good decision.
Most ppl won't like the working environment, but will like the money or salary they offer to keep you there.
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post Dec 21 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(ShUrIkEnGeR @ Jan 13 2017, 12:13 PM)
Holy crap guys, so many 25-30 years old people earning >6k - 15k per month , here i thought majority would be 2.5k to 4k. Shiok huh :3

I don't think most pure science grad can reach that high, a lot of people here seems to be from IT and business.
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Yea.. exactly.
Ppl from science stream until manager also barely RM6-7k. Unless you are factory manager, then possible to get five digits pay check.
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post Dec 21 2017, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(pollahappy @ Feb 5 2016, 06:13 PM)
Anybody here graduate late like 25+ year old with only a year or two working life since?
How is your salary?
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When I graduate, I am about 24, my salary when I quit my first job after working for two and half year is around RM3.5k.
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post Dec 21 2017, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(ngmx88 @ Dec 21 2017, 06:33 PM)
When I graduate, I am about 24, my salary when I quit my first job after working for two and half year is around RM3.5k.
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topglove got espp? if got worth it yo top glove is a growing company
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post Dec 22 2017, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Dec 21 2017, 11:27 PM)
topglove got espp? if got worth it yo top glove is a growing company
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Espp is share?

Yea, TG distribute share to staffs, but not much.
You will get the share after working for two years, but only can exercise the share after working for five years. If resign before five years, you get nothing.

Eventually if you join other manufacturer that is on the share market, there is a bigger chance that you got more share, compare to TG.

So, unless you plan to stay there and work more than five years, the espp as you mentioned is no use.
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post Dec 22 2017, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Dec 21 2017, 11:27 PM)
topglove got espp? if got worth it yo top glove is a growing company
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If u have money, just invest on your own. More straight forward lo.

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post Dec 22 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Dec 21 2017, 05:23 PM)
Only RM14K?
With your years of experience I think should be around the region of RM50K. biggrin.gif
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huhuhuhuhuhuhuhu. i wish for that to happen too bro. sounds weird right? my ex boss aged 35 his salary near 100k range already. demmmmmmmmmm

so you think with this current market situation, if i've been offered new job or worst comes to worst if i get retrenched, can i make it higher or will i get lesser than what i already had. takut woo now economy not so good, business not so good.

it's not about tehcnical know how already, but technical know who era. bye.gif bye.gif
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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Dec 22 2017, 10:26 AM)
huhuhuhuhuhuhuhu. i wish for that to happen too bro. sounds weird right? my ex boss aged 35 his salary near 100k range already. demmmmmmmmmm

so you think with this current market situation, if i've been offered new job or worst comes to worst if i get retrenched, can i make it higher or will i get lesser than what i already had. takut woo now economy not so good, business not so good.

it's not about tehcnical know how already, but technical know who era.  bye.gif  bye.gif
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QUOTE(ngmx88 @ Dec 22 2017, 12:29 AM)
If u have money, just invest on your own. More straight forward lo.
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You know you can quote few people and reply all in 1 post right? Rather than putting up multiple replies/ postings consecutively cool2.gif
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post Dec 22 2017, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Dec 22 2017, 06:10 PM)
You know you can quote few people and reply all in 1 post right? Rather than putting up multiple replies/ postings consecutively cool2.gif
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Haha..I reply when I think of what to reply..

I know can reply all in one post, but not sure about the quote part.

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