looking at the results, not bad considering we were strikerless, missing Cesc and Ivanovic spent an hour trying to actually catch up to Martial. after Depay got subbed in, it was easier for him.

playing against MU at OT with their full squad was always going to be hard. can say we got a good point out of this

bamford will return to us, yesterday was his last match with cp
I think will loan him out again

This post has been edited by zoidx_chung: Dec 29 2015, 02:31 PM

most probably loaned out in January.. maybe can see him in a chelsea shirt on the bench for a couple of games

physical still weak...
easily dominate by defenders

Spot on,a point at old trafford is a great result,especially considering our patchy form. Agree on their body language as well,they just seem a bit more..how should I put it..'daring' in attack. Yes there were some silly misplaced passes from oscar,mikel,zouma,heck even courtois. But I counted at least 3 or 4 occasions where under the previous regime we would've just cleared the ball to no man's land,and its EXTREMELY refreshing to see our players just be a little bit braver and retain possession while trying to build from the back.

Personally,that was what I really liked about the performance. Under Jose we would've just been hoofing balls forward when we were under attack and end up giving away possession 90% of the time. Everyone looked constantly on edge,afraid of making any sort of mistake. In the end the opposition would be able to nick a goal because we put ourselves under so much pressure by sitting back for too long,and mistakes became inevitable. After we concede one late in the second half,cue customary reaction and suddenly everyone floods forward, desperately but ultimately failing to find a goal.

We're then left scratching our heads wondering why we didn't just play like that from the beginning rinse and repeat for practically every other match early in the season.

Of course there are still lots of issues to iron out,but signs of improvement are definitely there.

P.s: azpi just failing to get unto a pass in the opposition's penalty box midway through the first half,tells us all we need to know

the worst Chelsea-Utd as far as i can remember..at least based on our performance..jut terrible..

we played much better against Bournemouth that we lost hahaha compared to last night..

first..passing totally rekt.
positioning..defense not that bad..but for attacking departments? all over the place..

urgency? much better compared to under Mou..but still way off from our standard..

you need to be terrible to make United look good..and we did it..

1 pts at OT is a good point..nothing more to say about the outcome..but the performance just not good enough..

Hi.. no troll.. I just had to agree with u. Just coming for a visit. I know both our teams are in bad condition..

We clearly lack leadership, communication and attack plan in the team.

This can be clearly seen when they took the set pieces near half way line, defender already running up to the box and try to position themselves but the taker do a short pass instead, that is fine if they want to cross in from another position. But instead of asking the defender to stay in the box waiting for the second cross in, the defender start running back hastily then near end of the game, the player dont even know whether to attack or just waste time.

We dont have an attack plan, player cant even string a few passes right, always try to dribble pass or wait till they got mob up and lose the ball. The urgency to attack or counter is good but no point charging forward like headless chicken and lose the ball instead.

It also show that HAZARD are not suitable playing in the middle of the field. As a no.10 he have to release the ball faster, not always try to hold up the ball then try dribble pass player. When he try to hold the ball, opponent will just push him from the back, last game he get so frustrated he stop playing near the end. Also at the middle, there is so many player to dribble thru, while at wing he only have a fullback to worry about. He is more dangerous when he stick on the wing charging the fullback.

Hmmm were we that bad?I guess my expectations were toned down much,much lower than the usual standards here.

I mean it's old trafford guys.can't expect us to play swashbuckling footie vs a utd team with a point to prove right? We rode our luck,and actually had more clear-cut chances compared to the match vs watford!

Yep there were times when we flooded forward and looked a bit like headless chickens,but for those times when we didn't, we carved out some really decent opportunities.

If it wasn't for matic completely losing his head in front of de gea,we could've bagged an unlikely win.

Sounds crazy,but I'm feeling quite positive for the trip to crystal palace

missed the game again. lol. Last game went to Penang holiday with friends, this game went to Johor with family.

crystal palace fast pace game vs us. scary..

draw will be a great result imo. i expect a defeat of course.

We should look at the BPL as a whole, and see where other teams of similar caliber (think "big4") are standing.

As of today, only Arsenal & ManCity are the known "title contenders of old" - Leicester & Spurs have the least loses only 2 lose each and sitting at 2nd & 4th respectively. And sitting in 5th is surprise - Crystal Palace.

No Liverpool. No ManUtd. And sure a F**k, No Chelsea.

If anyone can see a pattern, it's Arsenal & City sticking by their managers.

Kop sacked BR after a poor run of games, brought in Klopp and by God, I thought Liverpool would be gegenpressing their way to the summit of the BPL table - but no.

Old Trafford faithful may not have fancied Moyes, but given time - he would have stabilized the squad for a long tenure ahead, bringing in LVG to up their chances at the title instead - how's that working out so far?

As a personal fan of Jose, I accept that it is fact that he pushes and presses the players, squeeze every last drop of what they have to WIN. And it works, always works. But why then were we flirting with relegation no too long ago? PLAYERS.
For some, they have won it all - like ALL. BPL, FA cup, UCL, heck..even Europa League.
These players who have won those major titles, this season they lack the ambition - "what's there to win anymore? I've won all that there is" mentality. *points to Iva*
That, added with injury to Courtois early on in the season without a reliable back-up GK led us to bleed goals - big big big error by us for letting Cech go, but hey, who would've knew Courtois would be taking an arrow to the knee,right? Glad he's back tho.

that match gave an illusion that lvg still in control, just lack of luck

Leicester vs Man City game just proved my point. They are not ready yet to lift the league title. Yeah, Arsenal and Man City may have their ups and downs, but that's normal. At the end of the day, they both are the ones who have quality players altogether in a team, unlike Leicester, who rely on Vardy and Mahrez only

Gegenpress isn't a miracle drug. It's just a wonderful manager managing his teams well (Dortmund, Mainz).
If our blue follow gegenpress, might as well we sing YNWA tune.

Like why are you in league with the Gunners? What is wrong with Leicester when Claudio Ranieri was with us before and played a part in bringing in Drogba/Cech?

I want to see Gunners lose a few more matches, like Cech giving away goals. I don't even want to make a comment in Arsenal Street Talk. Any other team other than them.

Dortmund were playing 4-2-3-1 under Klopp way before we did under JM..so are we suppose to wear yellow instead of BLUE?
wish we didn't let Lampard leave, miss his impact on our midfield especially when we're on the attack

Lol, gegenpress is a known method even before Klopp..but most managers refuse to use because it have a very high commitment of play..and you cant do it for the whole 90min..unless you were brought up or played with it for years..it almost impossible to do it..there are different ways of approaching the game..you can press high and quick but you will sacrifice the shape..or you can drop deep maintain the shape and creating a double barrier 2 lines of defense..it actually is up to the manager and players capabilities on how to deal with it..no clear good way of playing...

that is why for me..you can play any formation, any style of play..the most important thing is efficiency..execute it to a near perfect, avoid mistakes..even if you play a simple football..

Sorry bro ur expectation do drop a little. When is the last time u see us bring the ball to corner flag and trying to waste time when the result was still 0-0. If we are top of the table try to protect the lead then maybe is fine but we are bottom of the table where we desperately needed point. A point at OT of course is good, but i dont like the current relegation team mentality in the team playing for a draw. This has never happen when those legend is around, even when we are a goal down, LAMP and DROG will lead by example, raise their game to encourage the other. Now when we are down, our key player like HAZARD and COSTA sulking, complaining, mocking own teammates we lacking leader on the pitch, now i hope more player to be like PEDRO, i like his fighting spirit even FAB, although he did not play well but u can see he always trying, till the end.

they indeed the better team that day, they move and pass the ball well and make the pitch big playing wide a bit like the old MANU relying mostly on wing play just that the striker is missing.

well said at the moment i prefer we play in shape, because we are not in a great form, by staying in shape at least everybody is clear what is their position and job to do, else those crazy pressing leaving hole at the back where MATIC have to cover and more kelam kabut causing leak else where.

This post has been edited by chitchat: Dec 30 2015, 07:16 PM