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English Clubs Chelsea FC 2014/15 BPL Champion V38, BPL - Chelsea v Everton 11pm #812

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post Nov 3 2015, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 2 2015, 11:25 PM)
If I am Roman, I'll stay with Mourinho. We can see it as this way. This same group of players, this season lingering at 15th position. How many players in the Chelsea starting 11 would be auto starters in Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve? Seriously, I think only Courtois, Azpi. The rest, I dun think is capable of being starting 11 material in top top clubs.

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QUOTE(YumeNoTaMeNi @ Nov 2 2015, 11:42 PM)
Azpi walking into madrid, bayern or barca? Did you check the RB/LB of those teams or not?

Barca will be relevant for quite some time. Bayern? nah.. Is just a phase and pep chose smartly. Pep is overrated.
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Well i would agree that RM, BAYERN, BARCA might not be in for AZPI, even though his defending and work rate is superb but those team would prefer a more attacking RB/LB. But to be fair also, AZPI is playing on the left, so he will be less effective attacking with his weaker foot and JM always prefer 3 defender staying back at all times and IVA is the one given the green light to roam forward.

QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Nov 3 2015, 09:16 AM)
Costa to escape FA ban over skrtel clash
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Seriously he is not helping the team at all, not scoring is one thing but getting red card or ban for that in this moment where the team badly needed the turn around is just selfish IMO.

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post Nov 12 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Nov 12 2015, 11:30 AM)
Tough job eh, want to sign the player that manager want but board say NO, too expensive sweat.gif Then need to find alternative signing for manager but then later manager show no faith in their ability, he also kena doh.gif Should have just stick with signing youth and leave the first team for manager himself to decide. Good or bad at least the manager sign someone he wanted and someone he believe is ready for first team football and not have player in the team that are not ready to play tongue.gif

But i think our transfer committee is doing quite good in signing youth potential player. Just dont let them touch the first team player tongue.gif
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post Dec 13 2015, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Dec 13 2015, 08:43 AM)
I pick mata over Oscar any day.

Kdb and salah no chance to prove their worth. Same goes to Luis.

Look at chances given to the like of fabregas, hazard, Oscar, iva and even Pedro this season. Play like shit but still start. Oscar been shit for more than a year dy. Same with fab. But still got the chance to be in first xi.
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1) yes u can pick MATA, but the problem is we are not the manager of CHELSEA, all manager has their prefer formation and type of player for his game plan and he did prove his decision by winning the BPL
2) KDB does not want to fight for his place, not even staying for a season to prove he can play for CHELSEA. He wanted to go, JM let him go, fair on both side. I agree SALAH was not given enuff game time, but again we did not get to see his training session behind close door unlike the manager that does. LUIZ was good, but just unlucky he came in at the title winning season with solid IVA and AZPI infront of him. He definitely will have started more if he is still around this season.
3) And please get ur timeline right, there is no MATA, KDB, LUIZ here now, if u think KENNEDY, RLC and BABA are capable of replacing those first eleven immediately is just wishful thinking.

U think JM dont want to have MATA, LUIZ, KDB, LUKAKU, CECH in the team ? he can only play 11 player and they are too good to sit on the bench, so if offer come and they wanted to go then is fair to let them go. But i think there is some miscalculation on this season transfer, something the board and JM did not see it coming that half of his first eleven will be playing this badly. The bench we have now are mostly unproven youth player and we let some more senior player out on loan. But i think is the right direction if JM want to build a dynasty at CHELSEA which is by utilizing the youth academy. Imagine if our first eleven was on par to last season, then JM will be able to slot in those youth once in a while but now is a different story.

If u have follow CHELSEA well, then u will have know JM did try all he could with the player. First he keep faith with those under performing player hoping they regain form which they didnt, then he start dropping those player, almost all player have been drop bar BEGO and AZPI but we arent really winning either. Now he is going back to basic, play a solid defense (IVA does not go up to attack now unless really needed) and more counter attack approach. COSTA not firing ? ok he try false 9, i think REMY and FALCAO will not start unless we are playing 2 striker as both of them are more poacher type of striker, they does not offer much to build up play that JM want. When i read about our interest on CHICHARITO i was like doh.gif as he definitely will only be super sub under JM.

I am keeping faith with JM, those trophy he won are not by luck OK. After what he did for CHELSEA, he deserve at least the whole season to prove he can clean the mess, if he going to be sacked end of the season then so be it, but i hope uncle lotti is coming rather than pep laugh.gif

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post Dec 14 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Dec 14 2015, 02:54 AM)
Willian is shlt? Come on !! he contributed more/same than/as Hazard and Oscar last season in term of the work rate, track back, control the pace of the game and defensive..yes he didn't score a lot..but that is not the indication that he was shlt.

consistent involvement? He earned that..not like Jose just happily gave him that..he worked really hard every time he was given chances.
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Agree, WILLIAM did not come in straight into team as first eleven, he earn his spot taking thru his hardwork, last season was all about his work rate but this season he improve and become our free kick specialist. If ppl expect WILLIAM to be creative and set up a lot assist like MATA then that is the wrong expectation because he is not that type of player to begin with, same with OSCAR. Then why cant we have more MATA type of player in the team, that is because every manager has their preference type of player and JM prefer work rate first over creativity. If PEP come in he will prefer more technical passing ability type of player etc.

QUOTE(dynames07 @ Dec 14 2015, 09:57 AM)
the bolded part somehow translate to we should not be posting anything about the team man management as we are not the manager.. then what is the purpose of having any discussion about the team  doh.gif
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Problem is some keep circling around MATA, KDB which is no longer in the team and blaming the board or JM for selling them but the matter of fact is he can only play 11 player as starter and not possible to keep them happy on the bench. Then we have ppl start questioning JM should keep MATA because he is better than OSCAR any day. Dont get me wrong i love MATA, he is a class player that i wish he still play for us but again JM has his prefer type of player and he prove his decision was correct when he win us the EPL title, what else is there to question anymore ? Ppl can discuss KENNEDY or RLC should play ahead of HAZARD or MATIC then that is ok but why still ponder about MATA, KDB ?

Also WILLIAM and OSCAR has always been a work horse type, when we win EPL ppl praise ppl happy, when we lose, OMG they are shit, they should play like/keep MATA to create more assist. Harlo they are the one that win us the EPL OK ! not MATA not KDB, fact ! so we win EPL with shit player then what should we call those player that did not win EPL ? laugh.gif
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post Dec 14 2015, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Dec 14 2015, 10:22 AM)
the team problem is now, whether to go for attacking or go for solid defending, we are not scoring enough that why we lose when we leaks at the back.

chelsea play style is now very easy to defend. Our movement/pass is too slow, Our wing play is so bad. every teams tend to crowded the centerback and push our play to side. in the end we cross from side and get cleared and awarded with unproductive corner kick or the cross/pass miss every single touch from player in the center.

we have no lb/rb that go up for overlapping wingplay, (apzi and iva CANT cross...) we are depending on the AM/Costa to go to EACH side of the field to do the overlapping. doh.gif which it LEFT with no players in the box/mid to pouch the ball!!!! doh.gif
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ya, COSTA driff wide is a problem with WILLIAM, OSCAR, HAZARD are not use to stay in the box. COSTA even quarrel with PEDRO when he ask him to make the run in the box doh.gif , i like PEDRO a lot for his direct play and his off the ball movement. I hope we continue with our counter attacking play and use REMY on top so we dont need to play COSTA just to hold the ball. The PORTO game where COSTA got outrun by defender was just doh.gif if he not going to improve his play and attitude, i supporting JM to continue play false 9.

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post Dec 22 2015, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Dec 22 2015, 02:56 PM)
another reason why mourinho is a fcukd up manager is bcs he sold de bruyne and felipe luis. loaned only to wolfsburg, then takpe la. you sold for what. bodoh. and then when he bought felipe luis, i really thought it was already time for that old ivanovic to retire. but still wanna play him doh.gif

the only way to revive chelsea is to get simeone, and have him bring back felipe luis, and also griezmann. if dont get both, at least griezmann. lb can give kenedy to play. he performed exceptionally well against norwich. also, buy alderweireld. most importantly, release terry and ivanovic

also, those who said remy should be given a chance to play, are clearly not a chelsea fan. mourinho has given him so many chances, and he didnt deliver. he cant even compete with big defenders. thats why costa is always the first choice. epl is all abt physical game. get that in your head
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Wow hebatnya, hey u CHELSEA fan right ?

1) Takkan lu tak tao, KDB story that he want guarantee started role, not fighting from the bench right ?
2) Lu tak tao we win BPL with IVA as starter not FELIPE right ?
3) Half a season already and consider the time/chances given between them, COSTA has 4 goal, while REMY has 3 goal. 4 goal half a season as main striker at a club like CHELSEA ? if he play well then nvm but he was so bad. REMY is EPL proven with QPR & NEWCASTLE so no bullshit about he is not physical enuff for EPL and physical is not everything, u forgot JM drop COSTA and play HAZARD as false 9 ? u forgot the little someone that is so good at MANC call AGUERO ?

Most believe REMY deserve a chance because COSTA was so bad and REMY often get the goal when he was call upon. So all of us are not CHELSEA fan then.

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post Dec 27 2015, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Dec 27 2015, 06:13 PM)
Lol? Not sure if trolling...
EPL is the best league because anything can happen every game week and every club has the potential to cause an upset.
Other leagues always boil down to 2 or 3 clubs to win their respective league.
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Wow we have a "true" CHELSEA fan that rooting for ARS to win EPL doh.gif Well we will acknowledge that they are the best team the whole season if they do win EPL but rooting for them to win ? NO WAY !! guess we are not "true" CHELSEA fans laugh.gif

If LEICESTER do win the league that show they are the best through out the season. They totally deserve it and everybody love fairy tales story and that what makes EPL attractive. There is less interest on Bundesliga when everybody know BAYERN is going to win it anyway.


QUOTE(lol~ @ Dec 27 2015, 12:53 PM)
Incoming "cant brain why mou sell lukaku kdb bla bla bla" comment

Btw regarding iva was choose ahead of baba, maybe mou was right that baba wasnt ready hmm.gif. If that so, mean we need baba to be ready next season or we need to buy PL proven rb coz i dont want iva to play rb anymore
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yalah, tak habis habis, if they want to leave and not fight for their place then is better for them to go. JM let go so many player and those ppl only miss KDB, LUKAKU, why not CUADRADO, SALAH etc. ? because they are not making headlines ?

oh btw BABA is LB, if he play we will have AZPI as RB and we will see how GH pick his team in the future, see whether he will pick BABA or RLC as starter or not. If not, then those ppl still can continue with IVA is GH anak emas story laugh.gif
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post Dec 29 2015, 09:57 PM

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We clearly lack leadership, communication and attack plan in the team.

This can be clearly seen when they took the set pieces near half way line, defender already running up to the box and try to position themselves but the taker do a short pass instead, that is fine if they want to cross in from another position. But instead of asking the defender to stay in the box waiting for the second cross in, the defender start running back hastily sweat.gif then near end of the game, the player dont even know whether to attack or just waste time.

We dont have an attack plan, player cant even string a few passes right, always try to dribble pass or wait till they got mob up and lose the ball. The urgency to attack or counter is good but no point charging forward like headless chicken and lose the ball instead.

It also show that HAZARD are not suitable playing in the middle of the field. As a no.10 he have to release the ball faster, not always try to hold up the ball then try dribble pass player. When he try to hold the ball, opponent will just push him from the back, last game he get so frustrated he stop playing near the end. Also at the middle, there is so many player to dribble thru, while at wing he only have a fullback to worry about. He is more dangerous when he stick on the wing charging the fullback.
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post Dec 30 2015, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Dec 30 2015, 12:06 AM)
Hmmm were we that bad?I guess my expectations were toned down much,much lower than the usual standards here.

I mean it's old trafford guys.can't expect us to play swashbuckling footie vs a utd team with a point to prove right? We rode our luck,and actually had more clear-cut chances compared to the match vs watford!

Yep there were times when we flooded forward and looked a bit like headless chickens,but for those times when we didn't, we carved out some really decent opportunities.

If it wasn't for matic completely losing his head in front of de gea,we could've bagged an unlikely win.

Sounds crazy,but I'm feeling quite positive for the trip to crystal palace tongue.gif
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Sorry bro ur expectation do drop a little. When is the last time u see us bring the ball to corner flag and trying to waste time when the result was still 0-0. If we are top of the table try to protect the lead then maybe is fine but we are bottom of the table where we desperately needed point. A point at OT of course is good, but i dont like the current relegation team mentality in the team playing for a draw. This has never happen when those legend is around, even when we are a goal down, LAMP and DROG will lead by example, raise their game to encourage the other. Now when we are down, our key player like HAZARD and COSTA sulking, complaining, mocking own teammates sweat.gif we lacking leader on the pitch, now i hope more player to be like PEDRO, i like his fighting spirit even FAB, although he did not play well but u can see he always trying, till the end.

QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Dec 30 2015, 09:05 AM)
that match gave an illusion that lvg still in control, just lack of luck
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they indeed the better team that day, they move and pass the ball well and make the pitch big playing wide a bit like the old MANU relying mostly on wing play just that the striker is missing.

QUOTE(Ichighost @ Dec 30 2015, 04:43 PM)
Lol, gegenpress is a known method even before Klopp..but most managers refuse to use because it have a very high commitment of play..and you cant do it for the whole 90min..unless you were brought up or played with it for years..it almost impossible to do it..there are different ways of approaching the game..you can press high and quick but you will sacrifice the shape..or you can drop deep maintain the shape and creating a double barrier 2 lines of defense..it actually is up to the manager and players capabilities on how to deal with it..no clear good way of playing...

that is why for me..you can play any formation, any style of play..the most important thing is efficiency..execute it to a near perfect, avoid mistakes..even if you play a simple football..
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well said thumbup.gif at the moment i prefer we play in shape, because we are not in a great form, by staying in shape at least everybody is clear what is their position and job to do, else those crazy pressing leaving hole at the back where MATIC have to cover and more kelam kabut causing leak else where.

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post Jan 4 2016, 09:58 AM

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Still no RLC and BABA, IVA is GH anak emas laugh.gif Same old formation and players.

Well a good win, good performance but that is what the performance we expect from them week in week out as BPL champion. Just that they stop playing for JM thus ended the club at relegation battle.

But credit to GH for fielding MIKEL, at the moment he seem to fit the team better, dunno why MATIC have gone so bad, he seem too eager to win back all the ball charging in needlessly leaving hole behind which he was suppose to cover the defender, MATIC also like to dribble forward so much often compare when he first arrive at CHELSEA, maybe inspired by YAYA TOURE. Meanwhile MIKEL did very well, he know his main role is to stay ahead of CB to protect them, he short pass (renown side pass back pass) and shielding the ball was very good from way before, just that sometimes he get lazy with his work rate.

FAB was also good yesterday but that is because CP did not assign someone to man mark him. Maybe HAZARD injury is a blessing indisguise ? With PEDRO we move the ball forward more quickly without HAZARD dwelling on the ball and slowing the attack.

Hope to see more MIKEL + FAB partnership.

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