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 Choosing The Right PSU, Discussions about power supply units.

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seanlimys
post Dec 27 2008, 10:02 AM

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sell away lar...buy new wan...sell ur 750w to me 300..quick grab..lol
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post Dec 27 2008, 12:15 PM

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is Enermax 450w is a good buy ? i saw it at All IT selling at Rm170++ ...

or Coolermaster 460w at Rm155 ?
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post Dec 27 2008, 03:09 PM

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Vantec ION2+ is really true power eh?
like silverstone???
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post Dec 27 2008, 03:10 PM

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No its not. The efficiency is about 75% at full load...
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post Dec 27 2008, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Dec 27 2008, 12:15 PM)
is Enermax 450w is a good buy ? i saw it at All IT selling at Rm170++ ...

or Coolermaster 460w at Rm155 ?
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enermax 450watt true power series?if yes go for that..

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post Dec 27 2008, 04:41 PM

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enermax risky..dun try it..low end models of enermax seriously not recommended
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post Dec 27 2008, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Dec 27 2008, 04:28 PM)
enermax 450watt true power series?if yes go for that..
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its actually 405w true power ... selling at Rm179
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post Dec 27 2008, 08:35 PM

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it's enough bro...if you not using high end graphic card
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post Dec 28 2008, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(krainsyafiq95 @ Dec 27 2008, 03:09 PM)
Vantec ION2+ is really true power eh?
like silverstone???
Yups... usually true wattage too.. Of course, always check the specifications on that model first. wink.gif

QUOTE(steventan85 @ Dec 27 2008, 08:16 PM)
its actually 405w true power ... selling at Rm179
405W or 450W? Enermax is usually true wattage. There is another Enermax model which is 405W. hmm.gif

Bit of news: Huntkey Tries to Bribe Hardware Secrets
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Author: Gabriel Torres Date: December 23, 2008 - 12:23 PM PST

I completely forgot to comment this with you. This story happened a while ago, but today I’ve got a new e-mail from them about the same subject. Right after I posted the Huntkey Green Star 450 W review Huntkey contacted me saying that they would like me to take down the review and that they would start advertising on Hardware Secrets.

But one thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. First we are completely unbiased: we do not accept any kind of financial compensation for writing our articles and our advertisement contracts aren’t bind to the publishing of any kind of article about the advertiser. This is so true that sometimes we publish negative reviews about products from our advertisers (e.g. OCZ ProXStream 1,000 W) and they know that our editorial content must be unbiased, otherwise our readers will never believe in us when we say that a given product is good. Our articles and reviews are completely spontaneous and the results do not have any sort of interference from the manufacturers.

Unfortunately we know several publications, both inside and outside the internet, that do all sorts of dirty business, like charging for publishing an article, charging for giving an award seal, publish an article only if the manufacturer advertises with them, and not publishing negative reviews in order “to keep a good relationship with the manufacturer”. These are just some examples of biasing that happens all around the world, a.k.a. “payola” (read this excellent article exposing this) – and you, our critic reader, should start paying attention to the websites you read. We don’t do anything like this and we repudiate publications that do it (we simply cannot respect this kind of publication). Start suspecting of any publication that only tells good things about all products they review and never writes a single negative line.

Apparently on this case maybe Huntkey thought we were one of these websites that accept removing bad articles in exchange of advertisement.

The funniest thing was that they said our results were very different from the results achieved by other publications. Well, besides what I already explained above, there is simply no way to compare our power supply reviews to these lousy reviews posted all over the web, where the guy gets a 450 W power supply installs on a PC that is pulling 150 W and says that the power supply is amazing. With the first Huntkey review we posted we bought a second unit and the results were absolutely the same. According to Jon Gerow, founder of JonnyGURU, Huntkey power supplies are known in the industry for having a real wattage of 100 W below their labeled wattage.

It is really funny how some companies instead of being worried about improving the quality from their products try to vanish with the reviews that tell the truth about them. All serious companies use negative reviews to fix their products.


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i think it's 450watt maybe...
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post Dec 28 2008, 09:45 AM

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I just saw Huntkey's Green Star 550W's sticker @ http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=772857&hl=

2 rails, +12V1 at 15A while +12V2 at 17A. Totally sucks doh.gif
(15+17)*12=384W <--- Looks like Gabe and Johnny got their facts right icon_idea.gif
+5V at 35A while +3.3V at 30A <--- Got so high boh?

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post Dec 28 2008, 10:17 AM

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greenstar is actually 450w...550w is peak power as advertised
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Dec 28 2008, 10:17 AM)
greenstar is actually 450w...550w is peak power as advertised
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post Dec 28 2008, 11:24 AM

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yea..juz like acbel e2 power..e2 power 470w is actually 420w true power
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post Dec 28 2008, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(lex @ Dec 28 2008, 06:56 AM)
Yups... usually true wattage too.. Of course, always check the specifications on that model first.  wink.gif

405W or 450W? Enermax is usually true wattage. There is another Enermax model which is 405W.  hmm.gif

Bit of news: Huntkey Tries to Bribe Hardware Secrets
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Enermax Tomahawk 405watt true power .... Rm179...
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post Dec 28 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Dec 28 2008, 11:24 AM)
yea..juz like acbel e2 power..e2 power 470w is actually 420w true power
Usually AcBel real wattage is 40W to 50W less than its advertised/labeled (peak) wattage... and that's much closer than those of Huntkey or GigaByte Superb. Furthermore, its proven to be 80% efficient... biggrin.gif
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Forumer here still favor the so call True Powers, actually its just another marketing gimmick from the PSU manufacturer to cliam their PSU have the 'True power thingy'.
All we need is just calculate the output of the PSU, if output is same with what they claim/advertise and have 80% efficiency then its a good PSU.

Bad PSU:
- claim have 500W output, but real output is only 350W.
- low efficiency.
- low 12v rail output (put more out put on 5v and 3 v rails to fool users).
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 28 2008, 02:52 PM)
Forumer here still favor the so call True Powers, actually its just another marketing gimmick from the PSU manufacturer to cliam their PSU have the 'True power thingy'.
Yups, that's why check and research first before buying.. nod.gif

QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 28 2008, 02:52 PM)
All we need is just calculate the output of the PSU, if output is same with what they claim/advertise and have 80% efficiency then its a good PSU.
That is why its good to check out reliable reviews.. As for my AcBel 470W, its stated here...
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Output Power 420W
Max. Power 470W
Efficiency 80%@115/230Vac
The closest review for this PSU is the CoolerMaster Extreme Power Plus 460W (also manufactured by AcBel, same one with the 470W most probably methinks..). You can see the some of the review results here brows.gif
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# Measured maximum power: 435.8 W at 50º C.
# Labeled efficiency: 70% minimum.
# Measured efficiency: Between 76.5% and 82.5% at 115 V.
Certainly verified.. brows.gif

QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 28 2008, 02:52 PM)
Bad PSU:
- claim have 500W output, but real output is only 350W.
- low efficiency.
- low 12v rail output (put more out put on 5v and 3 v rails to fool users).
Seen quite a number of those (more like cap ayam PSUs).. That's why I don't recommend those. icon_rolleyes.gif

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OK guys i having the current setup as below:

QX6800 OEM cooled with CM gemin2
2 x 1GB DDR2667 Kingston
Abit IP35 - E
Galaxy Geforce 7900GS 256mb
Seagate 500GB SATA2 32mb cache
2 x CM UV tube
3 x 120mm Ac Ryan UV LED FAN
1 x 80mm Ac Ryan UV LED FAN
Enermax Liberty 400W Modular PSU

Want to ask if i were to upgrade my gc to ATI Radeon 4850......does my PSU enough to support my whole rig ? smile.gif thanks

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QUOTE(ccy1989 @ Dec 28 2008, 05:00 PM)
OK guys i having the current setup as below:

QX6800 OEM cooled with CM gemin2
2 x 1GB DDR2667 Kingston
Abit IP35 - E
Galaxy Geforce 7900GS 256mb
Seagate 500GB SATA2 32mb cache
2 x CM UV tube
3 x 120mm Ac Ryan UV LED FAN
1 x 80mm Ac Ryan UV LED FAN
Enermax Liberty 400W Modular PSU

Want to ask if i were to upgrade my gc to ATI Radeon 4850......does my PSU enough to support my whole rig ? smile.gif thanks
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not..it's not..upgrade your psu also..at least st56f


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