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Ramjade
post Aug 7 2017, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Aug 7 2017, 05:11 PM)
Anyone made payment to Phillip Security via Maybank SG Bill Payment recently? Seems like the payee Phillip Security is no longer there.
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1. Did you give Phillip your Maybank no?
2. Use EPS to pay.
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post Aug 7 2017, 10:44 PM

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tifosi, best contact Phillip because I remember methos of payment, maybank eps is on their list

QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 7 2017, 10:24 PM)
i am going SG soon.. so, open Philip CapĀ  no need FSM singapore?
both almost same funds ?
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No need. Both different companies. They are basically competitors. sweat.gif

Differences between them:
FSM charges you platform fees while Phillip doesn't charge you platform fees.

Just prepare all necessary documents (you can refer to my previous post). Fill up the forms, drop by any of their investor place. Their HQ is very easy to locate. City hall MRT station. Raffles city tower.

Yeah almost same. The popular ones which are available on FSM also got on Phillip . However funds like Ponzi 2, maybank asian bond fund (quite a good bond fund), certain SGD class fund Phillip doesn't sell (eg. schroder asian something the SGD version is not available on Phillip but available on FSM. But both have the USD version).

These are some examples. You may request for them to carry the fund you want. But whether they listen to you is another question. About a month back, told them to carry this schroder fund, until today, habuk pun tak ada. Told them FSM SG and Dollardex both have the SGD version. How come Phillip tak ada. Said we will look into it.

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post Aug 8 2017, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 8 2017, 12:47 PM)
Wahh,... bro, you are SG Investment Platform Consultant for us,... thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif

Okay,... watch for Cromwell IPO,... scan in Opera continuously,... that is where all IPO starts,... Now I am SG Corporate Actions consultant,... hehe,...
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Cromwell IPO. I think will buy after IPO as IPO usually more expensive.
Scan in Opera? What is that?
Ya lo. cool2.gif cool2.gif
Ramjade
post Aug 8 2017, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 8 2017, 02:27 PM)
https://www.poems.com.sg/platforms/

so confuse.. which platform to choose?
i will shortlist these 2 ..

First State Global Infrastructure - can find with PHILLIP.

United Asian HY Bond fund can get 10% p.a (recommended by Hansel)*
this one dun hv with Phillip...?
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Got. Didn't look properly tongue.gif
Name: UOB United Asian High Yield Bond Fd SGD/USD Acc/Dis
Search using this (fund finder)
https://www.poems.com.sg/unittrust/

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post Aug 8 2017, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 8 2017, 10:38 PM)
TQ TQ .. didn't know got UOB name infront!!!!
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Go explore both platform and see if you got some more fund you cannot find. Help you to find tongue.gif

Kasi you tip
- You can buy from FSM and transfer over to DBS if DBS have that fund. Pay little bit of platform fees (count it as donation to FSM). Lesser than full platform fees (because you are holding few days vs one full quarters).
- Their transfer is unlike our transfer where you have to sell first.

IMO, Phillip is rather complete although they don't have stuff like Pinebridge Asia ex Japan Small Cap, Parvest Japan Small Cap

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post Aug 16 2017, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 16 2017, 07:36 AM)
Ramjade,

POEMS 2.0 is account to buy unitrust only ..? or is it a trading ac too? to buy shares?
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Semua boleh.
But the link I gave you is for unit trust only. So I am sure they will open a UT account only for only. Not sure if you can use it to buy shares. However, I have play around with it and found out you still have acess to stock screener and can "pin it" next ro UT tools.
On my application form, they will write there UTKC. If you want to open all for one account, best to ask them what other forms are needed.

They have free mobile stock alert price if a certain price is met, they will give you alert. Haven't test this yet but it's very useful if really give you alert. Will test one day when get a new phone.

However, would not really recommend POEMS as stock broker for reasons below:
1) Price of buy and sell is SGD25. No discount. In this area, DBS V wins as both also CDP but DBS V only SGD5 (current promo). Even without promo. DBS V win again as price is only SGD18.
2) Cash upfront SGD10 but got maintenance and dividend fees (not sure for local stocks or foreign stocks only) unlike maybank KE,standard chartered, FSM SG (FSM SG mentioned dividend fees is waived but don't know until when).

So for me, POEMS function as (what I am going to use it for):
1) unit trust provider
2) free stock alert

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post Aug 20 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 20 2017, 12:19 PM)
Application submitted. i think will be a month later before i can use as they need to pos the password , user name etc....

Auto open all 3. UNIT TRUST, pre funded & CMA. linked to my CDP.
in case later down the road there be brokerage promo. As can use it to sell my CDP shares.
(hoping for below $25 )

Any forum u know of that discuss PHILIP CAP unit trust?

Whenever i hv the time,Ā  I want research and shortlist funds.
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Could be faster. Check your email. They say something about all being paperless now the last time I went there with my family (2nd trip). Not sure if really implemented or half implemented only.

Nah. CDP will never get below $25. Best way to sell is use DBS V. Get $5 rebate making it effective $20. Best account to have with CDP is Maybank KE as you can apply for MCEP and let you have a USD account for USD1 only.

No forum I know of talk about SG unit trust. I could be wrong. All SGrean talk about STI, ETF and no one talks about UT. Actually I have already have my own UT watchlist. You share yours then I share mine. Then we can compare.

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post Aug 20 2017, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 20 2017, 02:28 PM)
where in PHILIP CAP can find EUROZONE SMALL CAP?

https://www.justetf.com/en/how-to/small-cap-etfs-europe.html

something like this ?

philip cap list of FUNDS so so so many.. .need to find method to shortlist.
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Use FSM SG Fund Selector to filter out the funds. Then check and see if available on Phillip.
Here you go:
https://www.eunittrust.com.sg/FundFinder.aspx
Asset class: Equities
Geographical: Europe
Sector/Strategy: Small to medium companies
Click filter.

All the fund will be there (which fit the criteria). How to choose the best EU fund?
1) Use FSM SG Chart Centre
2) Use Morningstar SG. (Choose that one with 4-5 stars)

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post Aug 23 2017, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(simplylegendary @ Aug 23 2017, 06:16 PM)
Hi there, new to FSM here. I've just briefly skim through the pages. It seems that FSM, Phillips, and DollarDex are are all options for investments.

Which is the preferred option for someone that wants to put about ~30k USD into their funds for mid term growth.
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FSM SG
- no need SG bank account to open
- application can be done online
- the widest selection of funds
- if you are feeling rich/generous and don't mind "donating free money" to them (quarterly 0.1% platform fees),

Phillip SG
- possible need SG bank account(best to check with their customer service)
- 0% service charge, 0% platform fees
- application can only be done via post/in person

Dollardex
- 0% service charge, 0% platform fees
- no need SG bank account for application
- need SG address for application
- application can be done online

For me, the only option is between Phillip/FSM. I don't feel particularly generous/rich enough to give free money to FSM so I choose Phillip.

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post Aug 24 2017, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(simplylegendary @ Aug 24 2017, 02:21 AM)
Thanks dasecret!

I am split either to put my next investment into Vanguard or Philip. Robo Advisory is fine by me as I am happy to automate things smile.gif

Yeaps, most of the money I want to put to use is in USD, I have some SGD so I have to safe up. I definitely want to go for the best options, don't want to limit my options because of the currency.
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Take your time to read though this blog http://www.turtleinvestor.net/. He's a pro on ETF investing. And there are more ways to buy a Vanguard fund rather than opening a Vanguard account (which I do not recommend opening account with them. But I am a noob, so don't listen to me rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif )
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QUOTE(simplylegendary @ Aug 24 2017, 11:47 AM)
Thanks again!

Have given up on buying Vanguard mutual since we are not allowed to, in fact U.S. citizens have pointed out that their accounts get frozen if Vanguard finds out they live overseas. Vanguard ETF will do, most likely their All World ETF.

Turtleinvestor is interesting, advice is closer to home smile.gif His advices to buy Vanguard index too but likes to use SPDR ETF as references in his article, I wonder why.
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There's a few reason I tell you don't go open Vanguard account
1) Vanguard is famous for their ETF not their mutual funds and mutual funds.
2) Why restrict yourself to Vanguard when there are other ETFs like iShare, etc


QUOTE(simplylegendary @ Aug 24 2017, 12:05 PM)
One more thing,

Looking at Vanguard's Total World Stock ETF image below, does it mean that Vanguard's returns is closely modeled to FTSE's spliced index, but actually lost out by a small margin?

user posted image
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Could be because of the fees you need to pay for ETF to be run? Best you drop him an email regarding your questions. I don't think I am qualified to answer your question as I have never really research on ETF. He on the other hand is an ETF investor and he have done his homework.

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 24 2017, 02:00 PM)
You can buy Vanguard ETF online via any brokerage account, either from HKSE or NYSE:ARCA

Hint : Buying through HKSE have no witholding tax..  brows.gif

Only std brokerage applies

ETF >>>>> UT  tongue.gif

My first investment in 2005 is via FSM:UT.. after the platform fees makes it super expensive, cashed out and look for direct investment..
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You forgot, with holding fees + expensive brokerage + dividend fees + maintenance fee tongue.gif tongue.gif
We asian investors suffer because of those extra fees.
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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 24 2017, 02:32 PM)
Only 0.1% Brokerage, SGD2 holding and 1% of dividend as fees.. consider cheap lah, compared to the 1.5%-2.0% they charge for UT..

You think UT manager buy shares no need brokerage charges? Go see how much their yearly brokerage is... in the annual report.  biggrin.gif 

Got to put things in perspective.  tongue.gif
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Ya I know. Sometimes up to few million shakehead.gif
But for asia region, unit trust is still the way to go as mat salleh ETF which track the benchmark still get left behind in the dust by fund managers. Not once but few years already. tongue.gif
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post Sep 5 2017, 10:11 AM

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elea88, I tried buying from POEMS today. See boleh jalan or not. One of the fund I want to buy tutup already doh.gif

Want to park my money in bond funds. Nothing to buy at least let the money work a little bit.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 5 2017, 10:14 AM)
my ac not activated yet.. waiting for PW

i shortlisted:

UOB UNITED ASIA HBF
first state infrastructure
Blackrock global Multi asset
first state regional china fund
lion global Korea fund
fidelity euro

this is 2 weeks ago homework.. will analyse further when my ac is activated.
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UOB UNITED ASIA HBF > Fullerton Asian bond fund (I am going for this as bond fund is not suppose to be volatile)
first state infrastructure (also in my watch list)
Blackrock global Multi asset (why pick this?)
first state regional china fund (ok)
lion global Korea fund (why? > better pick united japan smaller)
fidelity euro > pick a Eu small cap

These are what I have searched.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 5 2017, 12:40 PM)
lion global Korea fund (why? > better pick united japan smaller)

ar.. just wanna hv small KOREA INVESTMENT. this country.. i hv no investment in yet.
diversify.

Japan.. i hv . unless i liquidate from FSM malaysia.

Blackrock global Multi asset (why pick this?)
recommended by  OCBC RM... but did not buy from them.
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Best to pick a country where the fund can perform. Japan >Korea. Hence putting same amount will nett you higher returns from Japan. But it's up to you. I chase returns.

Don't listen to RM. Do your own research. With volatility of 4+ and return of 4%+, better I pick Fullerton Asia bond fund volatility 2.25 with return of 4-5%. Another alternative is that United Asian HY bond fund (but it's not performing well these few months).

Just my opinion.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 7 2017, 08:40 PM)
Schroder Asian Gr Fd

just notice this fund return so high???
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Hehe... Now you are doing your homework tongue.gif Now you know why I said I want quit investing via SGX and go the UT way? I can't get that same return on my own.

Good fund for Greater china (30%+) and asia pacific. This will be my default go to fund for china + asia pacific. The better option would be Schroder Asian Total Return fund (lower volatility but almost same returns) but only available in USD unless you buy from FSM then can pay in SGD but kena platform fees sad.gif If somehow Phillip introduce the other fund, I sure go for that.

Email them and ask them to include that fund since Dollardex and FSM both have it. More people message them higher chance they will bring the fund in.

So those who say earning 20% in Malaysia is the same as earning 20% in SGD better open thier eyes big big biggrin.gif
That's why I said lots of better choices available in SG vs FSM MY. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 7 2017, 08:49 PM)
exchange rate 3.14 today... Money changer says RM will strengthen.. but most of them also say will be a week or so show only.. haha...

like the 3.08 last month for only few days...
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Good. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Money match rate also not bad eh. No need to travel down to SG anymore. Transfer into CIMB SG to avoid paying SGD10 fees.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 7 2017, 10:20 PM)
did u try it ? Hv not analyse it yet.
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No good phone for KYC. Wait I get a good phone first. Phone camera is VGA only.

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post Sep 8 2017, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Sep 8 2017, 12:30 AM)
OT a while: this moneymatch can only be used by downloading their app? I have registered but unable to login when I'm accessing via desktop, it just hang on the same page when I login. And what does KYC stands for? Thanks
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I think first time login via app. 2nd time onwards can be from desktop. You need to login via phone for first time to verify your identity. KYC is know your customer (a requirement by central banks everywhere to prevent money laundering).

I am actually impressed with them that they reply emails quickly. Something not really seen in Malaysia.

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