1. Depends on how clean the bottles are
2. Concerns on potential hormone disruptors
3. Concerns on quality control
4. They're not mineral water according to international standards, just normal bottled water.
5. If you use a good filter (basic and affordable), my personal opinion is that they're of not much difference.

Wah seem like you have done quite some research. I admired your passion on it.

Which mean these companies like cactus were deceiving people?

But then shall be clean otherwise, already have people erm kena already right? And they might ended up kena sue kan?

No, they are not deceiving. Full disclosure available on the label.

Yeah, should be clean, but who knows, depends on the quality control. You can check out consumer studies on US brands. Not that clean doesn't mean you will kena diarrhoea also. I would take them without worry, but not for long term.

thank you so much. Then the boiled tap water shall be sufficient for me from now. In future, if your plan worked , i may consider to buy from you a water filter system. Currently renting a room, so no need for that yet

Once again, Good luck and all the best

This post has been edited by LaVilla.: Oct 15 2015, 04:03 PM

At least consider using something in the RM140 - RM400 range here as a pre-filter before you boil.

http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/kitch...filtration.html

Haha panasonic. Pretty good brand, but not sure about their water filter's quality. Since it's from you, must be good then. I will ask my housemate and see whether they want to pool fund to buy or not haha.

Thank you for your recommendation. XD

Of course, you're welcome

What a skewed logic.

Well, to your credit, it is indeed logical that a particular benefit and its potential would be limited by the cost and profit viability, under the for-profit model.

I am not a non-profit organization, and even then such organizations depend on private funding and grants.

Simple example: try asking your dentist to charge you for materials + rental cost (excluding time and profit), as you're out of cash that month.

don't bother with that retard........

he has issues......just check out his post history

Thanks for the heads up!

It is skewed because it is as an extension of your personal liking while disregarding the diverse reality of the world; to which I have provided a rebuttal.

If you are an expert on the water industry as you so claim, it means that you can see a major technical flaw/failure in my idea; please highlight.

Also, in line with your implied benevolence in your previous post, why don't you do a proper critique and contribute towards my vision of making home-based water filtration even more affordable with better quality water?

anyway to tagz8

i guess you already know the basics already.......
but i don't know what you are actually trying to make or achieve.....lack of goal or direction.

so here's my suggestion :
so far i haven't see any product that markets itself producing tasty drinking water by altering the mineral composition of the water.

the relationship between different types of minerals and the affect on taste is rather complicated.

not an easy task to do i guess.

final year student in electronic engineering degree.
pm me.

your pitch looks interesting, me myself has been boiling water for 4 years since i started foundation, as no housemate wanna share cost of expansive water purifier.

wish to see this product of yours to happen.

I have not even presented my full idea (for competitive reasons). I have only shared my values and principles to attract like-minded people.

Some forumers have already contacted me because they feel good about this principles-based approach.

These are people who hold science degrees from reputable institutions, and I hold them with high regard and respect.

I am pretty sure that if I stray from such principles I have pitched, they would be the first to leave this endeavour.

Additionally, some of the other forumers here directly criticized my objectives without knowing what I am doing. However, I value their thoughts, and have provided an equally thoughtful reply, in return for their time.

Obviously you have nothing to share, except for substandard arguments. Until that changes, I shall not be replying you further, in business it's called a waste of time.

Your track record shows it; after the heads up from fellow forumer slimey, I just checked out your thread on Ebola, completely misleading reporting.

If you wish to discuss things further, we can do it via PM.

Bye.

Thanks for the well-wishes. PM-ing you soon.

Thanks for your comment slimey.

What you've mentioned comes close to what I plan to undertake, one of the key components.

Yes, apologies on the lack of clarity, did that intentionally in order to preserve competitiveness.

It's alright, I had better follow the vaccination recommendations of the likes of Massachusetts General Hospital (Harvard Medical School), Boston Children's Hospital, and other advanced countries with top notch healthcare systems like Singapore, Netherlands, Switzerland, etc..

Right now your recommendations are directly in contrast with the positions of countries with top notch healthcare systems.

If you are knowledgeable as claimed, you should obtain a response and debate from the relevant people in charge of such vaccination programmes in prominent institutions such as Harvard Medical, or even professors in academia. If they reply with obviously incorrect position statements, then go ahead, educate us on how wrong these head of research/director of medical programmes are. That will make a great impact.

Till then, I'll be pleased to follow their recommendations.

tagz8

after reading your 1st post,
you have already silenced 4 users (3 right after 1st post and 1 on the 1st 2nd page) "please be polite "

that in my opinion, will not make you look nice for future partners/team.

I cannot imagine if anything were to went a bit bad, or how you would apply your dominance over your partners/team
-this especially when majority people you are looking for are final year graduates/freshies

'Not looking stupid is among the first few rules in my playbook'
silencing them will not allow the remaining sane /k people to judge who was right or wrong.
(what have they posted that was deemed Ill-mannered to you?)
But directly paints a picture that you are not tolerant and will shut down others.

This will further put the freshies in a vulnerable spot since no funding is mentioned other than pooling money.
-if they have just recently graduated, chances are they are repaying the tuition fees or just starting up.
with the level of tolerance showned, how secure are they going to be? (esp with this current financial situation)

I know many my age who went all out to later be kicked out when the ball starts rolling.

Its up to you how you view this (what i've said) anyways.
you can opt to silence me too. Your call.


Other than that, we are heading towards being a developed nation, why are we still thinking small scale water filtration system for those who can only buy.

Isn't clean ready to drink water supposed/should to be available to all people, where
-we don't need to apply another set of filters/equipment to drink?

If your product is truly great (and cheaper than others), why don't you propose to our main state water maker to collaborate
in making free safe drinking water for all Malaysians, piped directly?

of course when done so, some will still be skeptical towards how clean it is
(like how brita have a market)
but, in the bigger picture, you would help much more people.

or you think we all should forever just buy filters after filters?

Just throwing some ideas out, you can anytime trash me and delete this if you want.

I'll reply you later, as I haven't read your post fully, but felt that I need to quickly clarify the first part.

For those particular comments that I had to remove, rest assured they were truly distateful things like 'close shop lah' - just a three word post meant to troll/harrass. This forum has a clear policy against such behavior too, with a report button in place for that.

If you took notice, those that provided a negative comment/viewpoint or offered something constructive just like yours, I have not deleted them, in fact I took time to reply, even thanked them for their input. Hope this clarifies matters.

This post has been edited by tagz8: Oct 18 2015, 12:41 PM

Trust that I have adequately addressed your concerns about tolerance in a previous reply?

Also, here's my replies to each parts of your comments:



Believe the issue of tolerance has already been cleared in an earlier post.

Also, if the fresh grad has no money to contribute, other members of the group can contribute more. This does not dilute the importance of that particular fresh grad, as he/she is still part of core brain of the whole endeavour. Also, beyond that it is all about personal character and ethics, one should be comfortable with the behaviour of his/her team mates, so I would encourage a meet up before committing oneself to the endeavour.



I believe we should tackle the problems step by step. Currently, there exist pressing needs and market demand for home-based water filtration systems in various parts of Malaysia, including in urban Kuala Lumpur. We could argue about this need being phased out in the future, but business is about looking at present needs too. Going forward, that landscape would change and that is where the importance of R&D and innovation comes into play, in order for a company to stay abreast with times.

And to your hypothetical collaboration with the state water producer, why don't they do a complete overhaul of the aging and leaking underground piping system instead of constantly attempting to repair a growing dead-end problem? Maybe get some funding from a China SOE with an acceptable ROI to them?

We do not live in Utopia, and that's where ideas flourish to solve problems in the meantime.