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 EcoSanctuary @ Canal City *~ VERSION 2 ~*, New Township in Selangor by EcoWorld

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MiracleLucky
post Oct 18 2015, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 18 2015, 01:38 AM)
TKs, the day is done, lets put aside the disappointment, i believe we can fix it together with EW, hope i am correct notworthy.gif
I've wrapped up a list here, lets do it together, regardless if u had already complain to EW or not..
Together we are STRONG......
Please do make some comments to edit/add/discard in case some are not making sense or missing..
1.) outdoor compartment boxes  - improve with quality hardware and design to match the premium product

2.) staircase handrail - acceptable but not the best to fit such price tag, for type A it is totally unmatched premium product standard

3.) staircases - design is unmatched premium product standard, there is a potential risk even changing to bungalow type where there are holes between each staircase

4.) timber strip color - not matching with interior/exterior design, eg: tiles/door provided light-coloured strips preferred over dark. Dark-colored strips denote a more business-look and more suited for car showroom/restaurant. Suggest to use EM light-coloured timber strips

5.) tiles used in sink - no idea on this, anyone can provide picture and wats wrong ???

6.) room doors - cheap doors in every rooms, is it final product ??

7.) backyard door - cheap steel used, at least aluminum to be a premium end product ??Door knob looks cheapskate

8.) sanitary ware - earlier promise was minimum Johnson Suisse. Now switch to Serecite (by Inno), is it final product ??

9.) bathroom drainage hole - not standardize, bathroom is divided into 2 by shower screen, pls make sure there are drainage holes in both sides

10.) Improve with workmanship - workmanship in show houses is terrible, eg: scratchessss on timber grip, uneven tiles, gap between tiles, painting, etc..
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President Wong, again u impresses me with ur great effort. I must say thank you.

Shall we meet today and work out something?

This post has been edited by MiracleLucky: Oct 18 2015, 11:23 AM
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post Oct 18 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(MiracleLucky @ Oct 18 2015, 11:15 AM)
President Wong, again u impresses me with ur great effort. I must say thank you.

Shall we meet today and work out something?
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Welcome, just wanted to have a better end product notworthy.gif either we do it now or we suffer later laugh.gif

Boss i am out of town already, best will be nxt weekend. Or do we have anymore awal holiday during mid of the week ? laugh.gif

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post Oct 18 2015, 12:08 PM

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Best also we conclude all these points after few days or 1 week ? hmm.gif
Letting more ppl to drop their comment or add-on comment maybe.
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post Oct 18 2015, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 18 2015, 12:08 PM)
Best also we conclude all these points after few days or 1 week ? hmm.gif
Letting more ppl to drop their comment or add-on comment maybe.
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Sure good idea. Let more comments come in first. The list of recommendations is a good head-start.

Let's work hand-in-hand. There are still rooms to accommodate/incorporate the recommendations because it is still early stage.
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post Oct 18 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatvest @ Oct 18 2015, 10:04 AM)
My addition in blue:

1.) sanitary boxes/letter box/3r box/utility box - improve with quality hardware and design to match the premium product. The design looks like it is copied from a low cost flat.

2.) staircase handrail - acceptable but not the best to fit such price tag, for type A it is totally unmatched premium product standard.  Can be further improve by making the wood handrail few cm wider - it will look nicer.

3.) staircases - design is unmatched premium product standard, there is a potential risk even changing to bungalow type where there are holes between each staircase

4.) timber strip color - not matching with interior/exterior design, eg: tiles/door provided

5.) tiles used in sink - no idea on this, anyone can provide picture and wats wrong ???

6.) room doors - cheap doors in every rooms, is it final product ??

7.) backyard door - cheap steel used, at least aluminum to be a premium end product ??

8.) bathroom hardware - earlier promise was minimum Johnson Suisse. Now switch to Serecite (by Inno), is it final product ??

9.) bathroom drainage hole - not standardize, bathroom is divided into 2 by shower screen, pls make sure there are drainage holes in both sides

10.) Improve with workmanship - workmanship in show houses is terrible, eg: scratchessss on timber grip, uneven tiles, gap between tiles, painting, etc..

11.) Wall on/off switches - need to upgrade to a better looking type.  Need not have to be as nice as the one used in bungalow but definitely not the one used in Terraza or even the semi-D.

Additiona Note to point:
(5) - unacceptable. totally not matching with the sanitary ware.  If the sanitary ware is already bad looking then the tiles used at the basin is even worst!
(6) - If you check the product specification, "Timber Door" will be used for all the doors, ie. main entrance, bedroom/kitchen/utility.  Probably different grade of timber.  I cannot recall what type of material used for the door to the back yard but has yet to fix the door for all bedrooms.

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Bro vest. I have added the color blue for u. Hope u won't mind me making the amendments.
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post Oct 18 2015, 03:09 PM

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Looking at the comments here, one could have saved quite a bit if they opted for tropicana aman instead..

Ofcos rimbayu is not comparable as rimbayu is a mid end product!!
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post Oct 18 2015, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Oct 18 2015, 03:09 PM)
Looking at the comments here, one could have saved quite a bit if they opted for tropicana aman instead..

Ofcos rimbayu is not comparable as rimbayu is a mid end product!!
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I hope TA also has the show unit, then you can compare apple to apple. So far Wisteria vs EWS, I still prefer EWS.

Anyway, despite number of negative comment here, I still see quite number of people pay booking today...




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QUOTE(linghuchong @ Oct 18 2015, 03:47 PM)
I hope TA also has the show unit, then you can compare apple to apple. So far Wisteria vs EWS, I still prefer EWS.

Anyway, despite number of negative comment here, I still see quite number of people pay booking today...
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Wow boss, u were there, made ur booking ? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Oct 18 2015, 03:09 PM)
Looking at the comments here, one could have saved quite a bit if they opted for tropicana aman instead..

Ofcos rimbayu is not comparable as rimbayu is a mid end product!!
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From the heart to words from my mouth, still no regret on choosing ES brows.gif

Counted only on those who has signed s&p, terrace 65% while semiD/bungalow parcel 85%
Bungalow units are all sold out.

If negative comments here able to boost TA sales, y not brows.gif at least population in Canal City is going up, lol..
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 18 2015, 03:52 PM)
Wow boss, u were there, made ur booking ? brows.gif
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Yesterday booked d nod.gif

Today went again and see the croud....

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QUOTE(linghuchong @ Oct 18 2015, 03:47 PM)
I hope TA also has the show unit, then you can compare apple to apple. So far Wisteria vs EWS, I still prefer EWS.

Anyway, despite number of negative comment here, I still see quite number of people pay booking today...
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And notwithstanding the hoards of buyers who bought even before the show units were constructed.

As they had high confidence that EW will deliver. Unquestionablely trust on EW brand.
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Wow, didn't read half day, few pages adey. Impressive.
After seeing so many comments, reviews, pictures uploaded, make me realize one thing, EC/ES is seriously "famous & popular". Purchaser, Non-purchaser, Commentator from different area, Competitor, etc also monitoring, keep tap of progress of EC/ES 24/7. One screw missing from ID and got flies also noticed and criticized smile.gif
I really don't see this in Aman/Rimbayu forum or any other's. smile.gif

Disappointed with Show House and Show Unit?, Not for me. In fact, i really appreciate EC/ES can come out with showroom and show unit for us to see within few months. This is already a mission impossible task. The East Gate, the small little lake, and layered showroom was a differentiator. Previously having difficulty to imagine the house facade in reality, now i can really see it, feel it and it's beautiful.

Interior materials and ID used, Improvement? yes, fully agree some portion need improvement, as mentioned in the list of Mr.President.

Take note again, this is only a soft launch, and definitely will be further improved for all of us as time goes along with our feedback.

*Obviously ES still a winner here for design, and environment, this is not questionable. If EC/ES can further address all those stuff mentioned, it will 100% perfect.
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QUOTE(linghuchong @ Oct 18 2015, 04:03 PM)
Yesterday booked d  nod.gif

Today went again and see the croud....
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Ling gor, how many units were sold yesterday and today?
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QUOTE(lowyatvest @ Oct 18 2015, 09:31 AM)
I am not considering for own stay but more for investment.  Where else can you find similar product in klang valley (if any of you do, please share) that comes with all the outdoor features and with lots of green - if the green within the compound is not sufficient then still has second option of 85 acres park.  Also with reasonable maintenance fee.  It can become a vacation house for some or as you said rent to company senior staff.
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Vacation house... i not yet reach that level.... shocking.gif

So did you get one unit?

Think the 500sqf and 700sqf will move fast.
But the 1300+sqf will be slow moving. Very slow as the price is so close to landed.
900+sqf will be medium speed.

but with so many units, it'll be slow moving in general...

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Seems like many complaint about the quality of the show houses.. hmm.gif hmm.gif

May I know if the show houses in ES are temporary purpose or shall serve as one of the built unit later?

As for the EM, the show unit for DSL cradleton is temporary and have been demolished less than a year to give way to the construction of Mellowood units.

If for temporary purpose, I can understand the rationale of inferior quality of the building material used for this show units.

By the way, I also not really like the staircase design with void between the steps, prone to accident (slippery) and not comfortable for ladies who are wearing skirts.


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QUOTE(csdarkjedi @ Oct 18 2015, 04:20 PM)
Wow, didn't read half day, few pages adey. Impressive.
After seeing so many comments, reviews, pictures uploaded, make me realize one thing, EC/ES is seriously "famous & popular". Purchaser, Non-purchaser, Commentator from different area, Competitor, etc also monitoring, keep tap of progress of EC/ES 24/7. One screw missing from ID and got flies also noticed and criticized smile.gif
I really don't see this in Aman/Rimbayu forum or any other's. smile.gif

Disappointed with Show House and Show Unit?, Not for me. In fact, i really appreciate EC/ES can come out with showroom and show unit for us to see within few months. This is already a mission impossible task. The East Gate, the small little lake, and layered showroom was a differentiator. Previously having difficulty to imagine the house facade in reality, now i can really see it, feel it and it's beautiful.

Interior materials and ID used, Improvement? yes, fully agree some portion need improvement, as mentioned in the list of Mr.President.

Take note again, this is only a soft launch, and definitely will be further improved for all of us as time goes along with our feedback.

*Obviously ES still a winner here for design, and environment, this is not questionable. If EC/ES can further address all those stuff mentioned, it will 100% perfect.
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QUOTE(beemaro @ Oct 18 2015, 06:26 PM)

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Hope real unit regio, air cond point is not above main door smile.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 18 2015, 06:25 PM)
Seems like many complaint about the quality of the show houses..  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

May I know if the show houses in ES are temporary purpose or shall serve as one of the built unit later?

As for the EM, the show unit for DSL cradleton is temporary and have been demolished less than a year to give way to the construction of Mellowood units.

If for temporary purpose, I can understand the rationale of inferior quality of the building material used for this show units.

By the way, I also not really like the staircase design with void between the steps, prone to accident (slippery) and not comfortable for ladies who are wearing skirts.
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Temporary I think but I m real worried about end product later if gonna same as show house smile.gif
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QUOTE(csdarkjedi @ Oct 18 2015, 04:20 PM)
Wow, didn't read half day, few pages adey. Impressive.
After seeing so many comments, reviews, pictures uploaded, make me realize one thing, EC/ES is seriously "famous & popular". Purchaser, Non-purchaser, Commentator from different area, Competitor, etc also monitoring, keep tap of progress of EC/ES 24/7. One screw missing from ID and got flies also noticed and criticized smile.gif
I really don't see this in Aman/Rimbayu forum or any other's. smile.gif

Disappointed with Show House and Show Unit?, Not for me. In fact, i really appreciate EC/ES can come out with showroom and show unit for us to see within few months. This is already a mission impossible task. The East Gate, the small little lake, and layered showroom was a differentiator. Previously having difficulty to imagine the house facade in reality, now i can really see it, feel it and it's beautiful.

Interior materials and ID used, Improvement? yes, fully agree some portion need improvement, as mentioned in the list of Mr.President.

Take note again, this is only a soft launch, and definitely will be further improved for all of us as time goes along with our feedback.

*Obviously ES still a winner here for design, and environment, this is not questionable. If EC/ES can further address all those stuff mentioned, it will 100% perfect.
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Boss, wat is EC. ?
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QUOTE(beemaro @ Oct 18 2015, 06:28 PM)
Temporary I think but I m real worried about end product later if gonna same as show house smile.gif
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From what I can see here, for both EM and ES, visitors don't feel the "wow" factors of the ID.

EW may need to consider to build a bare unit as show house in future - so that can have the direct comparison.

In addition, perhaps need to consider to change the ID company.

Many visitors of EM show unit complaint the houses look cramped and small even for cluster units. That's why significant ID changes have been made on the show units after that..


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