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Hansel
post Sep 30 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 30 2015, 01:31 PM)
Looks like more of our money is going to MGS with foreigners exiting.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...lapse-says-zeti
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I am wondering why she said the following:-

Citing an example, Zeti said during the 2008/2009 global financial crisis, there were huge outflows which were much more significant than what the country is seeing now. - See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...h.KtYBSmif.dpuf

In 2008/09, it was the US subprime crisis, and the US Government had to act first to help the USA. I believed Asia was not affected much, even if it was, it would be due to contagion of the fall of the economic situation in the USA. I don't think there were foreign fund companies pulling their funds back to the US, unlike now.
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post Sep 30 2015, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2015, 01:39 PM)
Looks like everyone is getting excited as the announcement is getting nearer n nearer...
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You are right - the dividend given out this time will reflect on future dividends payouts.
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post Sep 30 2015, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 30 2015, 01:47 PM)
I am wondering why she said the following:-

Citing an example, Zeti said during the 2008/2009 global financial crisis, there were huge outflows which were much more significant than what the country is seeing now. - See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...h.KtYBSmif.dpuf

In 2008/09, it was the US subprime crisis, and the US Government had to act first to help the USA. I believed Asia was not affected much, even if it was, it would be due to contagion of the fall of the economic situation in the USA. I don't think there were foreign fund companies pulling their funds back to the US, unlike now.
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if those fund not pulling back to US that time, where they dump the money? rclxub.gif
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 30 2015, 01:53 PM)
if those fund not pulling back to US that time, where they dump the money?  rclxub.gif
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I don't think capital flight was an issue back then. Capital flight was an issue in 1997/8, but not in 2008/9.The KLSE and the SGX slid was because of sentiments, and interest rate rises (for the SGX), which hit a lot of REITs. And yes,.. the subprime crisis hit the Sgp banks because of toxic assets that were detrimental to investors - that's right, that was the problem.
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:27 PM

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There r a lot of selling of ASx funds lately. To reduce this maybe ASNB is contemplating whether to pay out in full without reserving for the future. That will bring back all the sellers. Wishful thinking? hmm.gifn
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 30 2015, 01:50 PM)
You are right - the dividend given out this time will reflect on future dividends payouts.
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Not really as it depends on market condition moving forward

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post Sep 30 2015, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 30 2015, 02:27 PM)
There r a lot of selling of ASx funds lately. To reduce this maybe ASNB is contemplating whether to pay out in full without reserving for the future. That will bring back all the sellers. Wishful thinking? hmm.gifn
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Unlikely as 'reserve' is part of their DNA
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2015, 02:28 PM)
Unlikely as 'reserve' is part of their DNA
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Only for this year's income lah. In the past they like to say this year income is 8.5% but we are distributing 6.5% and reserve the balance of 2% for the future. So if they were to declare 8% dividend then there will be less redemption.

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post Sep 30 2015, 02:41 PM

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so the final dividend is.........................6.9%!!


what ever it is, better than keeping in FD la. 6% also ok to me
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 30 2015, 02:41 PM)
so the final dividend  is.........................6.9%!!
what ever it is, better than keeping in FD la. 6% also ok to me
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final dividend is 6.9%.. already confirmed??
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 30 2015, 02:41 PM)
so the final dividend  is.........................6.9%!!
what ever it is, better than keeping in FD la. 6% also ok to me
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Higher than asw so much? Curious
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 30 2015, 02:42 PM)
final dividend is 6.9%.. already confirmed??
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Must be joking la.
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 30 2015, 02:41 PM)
so the final dividend  is.........................6.9%!!
what ever it is, better than keeping in FD la. 6% also ok to me
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Sep 30 2015, 02:47 PM)
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:51 PM

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Better to wait for news from the media then.. ^^
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:53 PM

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He is the one of d biggest ASx investor in this thread.
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:56 PM

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No ann't yet till now ?
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post Sep 30 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 30 2015, 02:53 PM)
He is the one of d biggest ASx investor in this thread.
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unless he was at the press release which is going on now..

lol.. sources from media not so fast.. ^^
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post Sep 30 2015, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 30 2015, 02:38 PM)
Only for this year's income lah. In the past they like  to say this year income is 8.5% but we are distributing 6.5% and reserve the balance of 2% for the future. So if they were to declare 8% dividend then there will be less redemption.
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Gud strategy to preserve withdrawal
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post Sep 30 2015, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 30 2015, 02:42 PM)
final dividend is 6.9%.. already confirmed??
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