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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Sep 16 2015, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Manada @ Sep 16 2015, 11:44 AM)
I have a question. I am 19, I have around RM40k to invest. I am chinese.

Which one fits me? I'm confused with all the available choices @.@
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What are you confuse about. Be more specific.
Ramjade
post Sep 16 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Manada @ Sep 16 2015, 11:51 AM)
1) Why are there so many products to choose from? Why no 1-size-fits-all?

2) Is there a best among all the available products?

3) Which one I should invest in if I want long term investment (10-15 years).

4) Is there someone I can contact to clarify?
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1. Because different people have different appetite. Some like fix price (FP), some like variable price (VP). You cannot apply for all. Refer fiat page and see which one you can apply. Already clearly stated on first page what is available for non -bumi

2) No best. Best is asb but you and I cannot apply for that. Depends again on what you want. FP or VP.

3) You can hold all for long term. No problem.

4) You can ask in this thread for opinions. You can also clarify with pnb via email

Hope that help. Any question feel free to ask.

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post Sep 16 2015, 12:08 PM

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Nav is price per unit. For ASX (FP) they are fixed at rm1/unit. ASG and ASN3, you need to visit the counter to know the price as it changes everyday.
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post Sep 16 2015, 12:23 PM

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Manada be aware that those ASX cannot be open just like that. When you go to the bank, they will tell you chinese quota is fully subscribe. Cannot open.

Hence you need to beg them and tell them "I know if got units for sale, can open new account. Could you please check for me?"

Higher chance to open at places mentioned on first page.
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post Sep 16 2015, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Manada @ Sep 16 2015, 12:25 PM)
thanks for the reminder. Since I am 19 I will go with my parents to either one of the locations mentioned on the first page.
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19 can open own book already. No need to drag parents along. Unless parent also want to open.

Can open at maybank, cimb, rhb. No need to go to pnb office.
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post Sep 16 2015, 12:54 PM

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I think he meant ASN3.

By the way, recommend you to open any or all of the ASX as it need only rm100. Once open can top up easily. Opening ASX is the hard one. ASN3 can open anytime.
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post Sep 16 2015, 02:23 PM

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Again, is his money. People dare take risk what. So let it be.

You need to know that ASN3 charges you 5% + 6% of the 5% tax upfront. ASX on the other hand is tax free for now
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post Sep 16 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Manada @ Sep 16 2015, 02:31 PM)
unsure.gif wat's the difference? Aren't ASN3 part of ASX? ASX is a term to call all the products offered right.
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ASX in this forum is regarded as FP. Anything not FP, not categorise as ASX. NAV is low for ASN3 & ASG. Buy now, when it increases (if it increases), you will profit more than ASX. You can lose your principal for VP.

ASX is FP. You buy and sell at RM1. Thr only way you can profit is the dividend which is more or less >6%/year. There will not be loss as buying and selling is rm1.

ASX used to be fully subscribed (no one can buy) but past few months until now. everyone can buy. If malaysia 's economy were to recover, expect ASX to be fully subscribe again.

Think of ASX as epf level interest but you can withdraw anytime no need to wait until 55 years old.

ASN3 and ASG can be open anytime as they are VP funds. No difference than Buying from FSM except maybe stable dividends. You can make more money via VP but you can lose more money too if the NAV drops.

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QUOTE(Manada @ Sep 16 2015, 02:31 PM)
unsure.gif wat's the difference? Aren't ASN3 part of ASX? ASX is a term to call all the products offered right.
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ASX in this forum is regarded as FP. Anything not FP, not categorise as ASX. NAV is low for ASN3 & ASG. Buy now, when it increases (if it increases), you will profit more than ASX. You can lose your principal for VP.

ASX is FP. You buy and sell at RM1. Thr only way you can profit is the dividend which is more or less >6%/year. There will not be loss as buying and selling is rm1.

ASX used to be fully subscribed (no one can buy) but past few months until now. everyone can buy. If malaysia 's economy were to recover, expect ASX to be fully subscribe again.

Think of ASX as epf level interest but you can withdraw anytime no need to wait until 55 years old.

ASN3 and ASG can be open anytime as they are VP funds. No difference than Buying from FSM except maybe stable dividends. You can make more money via VP but you can lose more money too if the NAV drops.

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post Sep 16 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 16 2015, 03:38 PM)
bro ASx is the term we call for all the funds under ASNB.  I tot already explain in previous thread  wink.gif

FP ASx - fixed priced

VP ASx - Variable price

ASx - Amanah Saham x*

x* - Wawasan2020, M'sia, 1Msia, didik, Gemilang, Nasional etc.
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Really. All this while I thought ASX stands for FP funds.
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post Sep 16 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2015, 05:08 PM)
Dun understand those in bold
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I am sure there are funds sold by FSM also giving consistent returns per year. Funds sold by FSM are VP right?
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post Sep 16 2015, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2015, 07:30 PM)
ASx VP can't compare with FSM VP as the earlier is not up to the mark yet
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Please explain. Kind of blur reading it.
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post Sep 16 2015, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2015, 07:39 PM)
In terms of performance, ASx VP can't compete with FSM VP
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So FSM VP is better than asx vp if you pick the right one?
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post Sep 16 2015, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Penguin @ Sep 16 2015, 10:17 PM)
Ah okay... laugh.gif so it will be calculated in terms of days as well?
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Not calculated everyday. If you topup interest on 1st, that interest will be calculated inside. If topup on 2nd, no interest.
If topup on 30/31, you will get interest for the following month.

But I do no know whether you will get interest for that month if you do the following. Eg, Deposit rm1k on 1st, withdraw on the 2nd and then deposit again on the 30/31 to to get interest for the next month. Do not know whether such thing will be given interest. If yes, effective rates can be more than what they give.

So if yes, withdraw out on 2nd and dump into Ambank Truesavers and ibg out to casa on 29. Go to bank on 30 and redeposit via contra. Anyone can clarify if the way I mentioned will still be given dividend for that month?

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 16 2015, 10:22 PM)
I don't think so  wink.gif

lowest balance of the month  blush.gif
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If lowest level, then the above way won't work to earn more interest. sad.gif

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post Sep 17 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 17 2015, 04:14 PM)
However, this time round, these clauses have become very relevant, which,... in the earlier days, were always ignored due to the great returns offered.

Liquidity at RM1 per unit is, by no doubt,....a great characteristic of the ASX funds.  rclxms.gif
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Are there any overseas fund which is fix price? You have been investing a long time overseas, I am sure you could share your experience whether such fund exist or not.
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post Sep 18 2015, 01:11 PM

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You can topup the following by using cimbclicks

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ASB, ASM, ASD, ASW2020, AS 1M

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post Sep 18 2015, 01:18 PM

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Actually how to topup online? Register the book online or have to go to branch and register the book?
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post Sep 18 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Penguin @ Sep 18 2015, 01:45 PM)
Not soo sure about others, but M2U has the AS section, just register by inputting your account details, it will take few working days to process the application... What I dislike is that, transaction fee will be imposed, RM1.06 sad.gif
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Actually RM1.05 is considered ok. Don't need to burn petrol and find parking, paying for parking and go home empty handed. Maybank only AS1M

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post Sep 18 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 18 2015, 02:33 PM)
Like that one ar the online. Messy then normal online banking lehh. Don't want lo like that.

Btw, really glad to see some old kakis is BACK!!!!!
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Look at it this way. You pay RM1.06, no need to find parking, burn petrol waste time waiting. To update your book, simply walk into the the nearest bank at your workplace about 330-4pm (usually asx counter will not have many people at that time) and update the book.
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post Sep 18 2015, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2015, 02:47 PM)
I tot is 1.06  rclxub.gif
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Guess you are right there. Don't know what's with me. Keep making mistakes.

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