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post Oct 5 2015, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 5 2015, 08:43 AM)
HI AV,... tq,... having aenues for surprises is a healthy move for invenstments,... no doubt. I believed my tool for 'being ready for suprises' has already been covered by my long term plan for the SGD vs the MYR. So, even if I am wrong in that the Feds must need to hike rates, the chance for the SGD to appreciate against the MYR is still higher when given enough chance and time.

At this time, my conviction that the Feds really have no choice but to hike rates would be shared by many, if not all those reputable quarters out there.

So,... I'll still buy on the dips when between the USD and the MYR. And my view is still the USD will strengthen against all currencies, including the sGD for me to accumulate more SGD this month. We'll know by the coming few days,.... as the MAS MPS Meeting approaches.
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Hansel,

My gut feeling is Feds is going to raise rate. But, I really do not have a clear view as to when.

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post Oct 5 2015, 09:23 AM

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http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/30/investing/...unch/index.html

<< Saudi Arabia's mountain of oil money is shrinking.

After years of raking in cash from lofty prices, oil-producing countries are getting squeezed by the crash in crude oil prices.

Even mighty Saudi Arabia.

The cash crunch caused the OPEC leader to sell bonds over the summer to raise at least $4 billion. It was the first time Saudi Arabia tapped the bond markets in eight years. >>

Folks,

Interesting read. Even Saudi is having a cash crunch.

Enjoy the show!!

Dreamer


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post Oct 5 2015, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 4 2015, 11:01 PM)
Job data comes out every first Friday of every month, not every week.

A job data of 100~150K number won't prompt for Fed to raise rate.
The zeroing in wages growth further cool the rate hike significantly.

No wages growth - no inflation threat.

No inflation + slow job creation + no wages growth, Fed may find difficulty to raise rate, as if Fed did raise rate, and economy become sluggish afterwards, they may be blamed for taking a wrong move at a wrong timing.
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I always equate additional jobs added to unemployment claims. These two parameters are in an inverse relationship. The Unemployment Claims Data is read-out on a weekly basis.

Throughout the months, all the numbers are ding-donging up and down. So, I wouldn't really pay too much attention to some numbers. When US numbers are good, then Ms Yellen talks about conditions in China,... holding back rate hike again.

I'll just prepare myself for the real hike when it materialises. NO point waiting.

In your formula here : No inflation + slow job creation + no wages growth, you missed out another impt parameter being : unemployment claims. Unemployment claims comes out on a weekly basis. After 4 weeks of unemployment claims, I normally have a feeling how will the other three parameters in your equation fare.
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Is 1MBD being unfairly blamed for the volatile ringgit and other woes?
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...lity/?style=biz

Wat is yo take?
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post Oct 5 2015, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:17 AM)
wil-i-am,

The article said that USD is going to weaken against Yen and Euro.  So, this may or may not help RM.

Dreamer
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Well,... MR Dreamer,... if the USD does weaken against our RM, it will giveme an opportunity window to convert more of my RM into the USD.I still have RM sitting in Msia, waiting to go out. And if the USD strengthens against all currencies, then I might convert some USDs into the SGDs to prepare to go into the REITs and dividend stocks.

Either way, I'll have something to do.
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post Oct 5 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 5 2015, 09:41 AM)
Well,... MR Dreamer,... if the USD does weaken against our RM, it will giveme an opportunity window to convert more of my RM into the USD.I still have RM sitting in Msia, waiting to go out. And if the USD strengthens against all currencies, then I might convert some USDs into the SGDs to prepare to go into the REITs and dividend stocks.

Either way, I'll have something to do.
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How low are u going to lower your MYR assets weightage? Or like dreamer, almost zero?
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post Oct 5 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 5 2015, 09:48 AM)
How low are u going to lower your MYR assets weightage? Or like dreamer, almost zero?
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Hi MGM,... Having three assets in Msia, namely the EPF, my practice and my properties, which are all denominated in the RM, I think the diversification process adequeate for the Msia side.

What ever extra I make in my practice and well,... whatever I have in my ASX, I think, should be diverted outside already.

A bit more of opinions here : it takes time to sell away my props, hence, those props are in a dangerous position and might be confiscated by the Govern't if times turn out to be really bad. I see the pattern is emerging whereby our leaders are asking us to leave this country (my opinion), and being in the legal industry, if there is nothing we can do to refute these 'halau' statements against the minorities, then I think things are moving in a certain direction already.. I'll prepare myself for the day when our citizenship is revoked (which is, under the laws of accusations within the Sedition Act, the Govern't can impose this.)

My minor in University was Political Science. Hence, my decisions on how I am forced to take positions in my financial survivability.

I think our PM is a very learned man, he knows how to capitalize on all the advantages of the law in his favour. I respect him very much for his great knowledge and on his political maneuvers nationally and internationally, but not on his other traits. He is just too smart for us,... He can drive the minorities out of this country.

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post Oct 5 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 4 2015, 07:09 PM)
smile.gif At most, will go green on one day. Then will drop again after that.  smile.gif Sentiment in Sgp is not good, gentlemen,....
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Till now, the STI is green. But the SGD is weakening against the USD, in spite of the Dollar Index dropping now. Sentiment in Sgo is not good, gents,... But I'm not converting my USD back into the SGD yet,... more to drop fro the SGD.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 5 2015, 10:13 AM)
Hi MGM,... Having three assets in Msia, namely the EPF, my practice and my properties, which are all denominated in the RM, I think the diversification process adequeate for the Msia side.

What ever extra I make in my practice and well,... whatever I have in my ASX, I think, should be diverted outside already.

A bit more of opinions here : it takes time to sell away my props, hence, those props are in a dangerous position and might be confiscated by the Govern't if times turn out to be really bad. I see the pattern is emerging whereby our leaders are asking us to leave this country (my opinion), and being in the legal industry, if there is nothing we can do to refute these 'halau' statements against the minorities, then I think things are moving in a certain direction already.. I'll prepare myself for the day when our citizenship is revoked (which is, under the laws of accusations within the Sedition Act, the Govern't can impose this.)

My minor in University was Political Science. Hence, my decisions on how I am forced to take positions in my financial survivability.

I think our PM is a very learned man, he knows how to capitalize on all the advantages of the law in his favour. I respect him very much for his great knowledge and on his political maneuvers nationally and internationally, but not on his other traits. He is just too smart for us,... He can drive the minorities out of this country.
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i agree, its the props investment that are inmobile and stuck at the moment....
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 5 2015, 10:13 AM)
Hi MGM,... Having three assets in Msia, namely the EPF, my practice and my properties, which are all denominated in the RM, I think the diversification process adequeate for the Msia side.

What ever extra I make in my practice and well,... whatever I have in my ASX, I think, should be diverted outside already.

A bit more of opinions here : it takes time to sell away my props, hence, those props are in a dangerous position and might be confiscated by the Govern't if times turn out to be really bad. I see the pattern is emerging whereby our leaders are asking us to leave this country (my opinion), and being in the legal industry, if there is nothing we can do to refute these 'halau' statements against the minorities, then I think things are moving in a certain direction already.. I'll prepare myself for the day when our citizenship is revoked (which is, under the laws of accusations within the Sedition Act, the Govern't can impose this.)

My minor in University was Political Science. Hence, my decisions on how I am forced to take positions in my financial survivability.

I think our PM is a very learned man, he knows how to capitalize on all the advantages of the law in his favour. I respect him very much for his great knowledge and on his political maneuvers nationally and internationally, but not on his other traits. He is just too smart for us,... He can drive the minorities out of this country.
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On what grounds can they confiscate our properties and on what grounds they can revoke our citizenship? They can only do that if they find that we have crimes against the country. How are they going to confiscate all minority properties and their citizenship? The country will grind to a halt.

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post Oct 5 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 5 2015, 10:22 AM)
Till now, the STI is green. But the SGD is weakening against the USD, in spite of the Dollar Index dropping now. Sentiment in Sgo is not good, gents,... But I'm not converting my USD back into the SGD yet,... more to drop fro the SGD.
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This guy is saying otherwise:

http://www.internationalman.com/articles/h...financial-order
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post Oct 5 2015, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 5 2015, 10:22 AM)
Till now, the STI is green. But the SGD is weakening against the USD, in spite of the Dollar Index dropping now. Sentiment in Sgo is not good, gents,... But I'm not converting my USD back into the SGD yet,... more to drop fro the SGD.
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i am pleased to see today what i expected - softening of usd, rise in stocks incl sgreit prices! tongue.gif

well, one swallow does not make a summer, we'll have to see the coming days, weeks and months.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 5 2015, 10:51 AM)
i am pleased to see today what i expected - softening of usd, rise in stocks incl sgreit prices! tongue.gif

well, one swallow does not make a summer, we'll have to see the coming days, weeks and months.
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Reit is sensitive to interest rate.

No rate hike or treasuries yield low, reit price up.

Sg reit, some already quite attractive.
Sgd even may soft due to potential easing measure, it won't plunge like RM one.

So if Sg reit is attractive and could provide stable yield one, I don't see why the need to wait and "time" it perfectly to squeeze every drop out of it.

Nevertheless, it is far from conclusion that rate hike may happen or not.
Always leave room for unpredictable event.

Now, USD is moving in tight range, while equities is "celebrating" potential no rate hike.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 5 2015, 11:00 AM)
Reit is sensitive to interest rate.

No rate hike or treasuries yield low, reit price up.

Sg reit, some already quite attractive.
Sgd even may soft due to potential easing measure, it won't plunge like RM one.

So if Sg reit is attractive and could provide stable yield one, I don't see why the need to wait and "time" it perfectly to squeeze every drop out of it.

Nevertheless, it is far from conclusion that rate hike may happen or not.
Always leave room for unpredictable event.

Now, USD is moving in tight range, while equities is "celebrating" potential no rate hike.
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yep, the last i read, markets now price in 43% rate hike only in march 2016 and 100% in dec 2016.

so, it's equities party time - at least for a while until new indications emerge.

and yes, i am not timing but been adding bits of sg reits - to me, this one is the best bet among all options available - us etf's, sg stocks, bursa stocks, dci, unit trusts, gold, fx cash, etc... smile.gif

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4 Oct 2015 03:20 UTC - 5 Oct 2015 03:23 UTC
USD/MYR close:4.39719 low:4.39658 high:4.41250

Not much movement from 4.4140 on 2/10
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 5 2015, 11:08 AM)
yep, the last i read, markets now price in 43% rate hike only in march 2016 and 100% in dec 2016.

so, it's equities party time - at least for a while until new indications emerge.

and yes, i am not timing but been adding bits of sg reits - to me, this one is the best bet among all options available - us etf's, sg stocks, bursa stocks, dci, unit trusts, gold, fx cash, etc... smile.gif
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Will the downturn for Spore properties affects SG-reits?


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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 5 2015, 11:48 AM)
Will the downturn for Spore properties affects SG-reits?
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of course, it will.

but will be less and slower than stocks.

a matter of how bad and how long, if at all.

there is nothing absolutely safe.

only the confidence in where u put yr money.
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post Oct 5 2015, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 5 2015, 11:00 AM)
Reit is sensitive to interest rate.

No rate hike or treasuries yield low, reit price up.

Sg reit, some already quite attractive.
Sgd even may soft due to potential easing measure, it won't plunge like RM one.

So if Sg reit is attractive and could provide stable yield one, I don't see why the need to wait and "time" it perfectly to squeeze every drop out of it.

Nevertheless, it is far from conclusion that rate hike may happen or not.
Always leave room for unpredictable event.

Now, USD is moving in tight range, while equities is "celebrating" potential no rate hike.
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When the chances to win in a timing opportunity is high, we should take it. I don't think anybody can say that the SG REITs might anytime soon turn around and shoot into the sky. Tendency is more for the SG REITs to plunge further.

I will wait as I accumulate more USDs to be converted into the SGD.

Today is a good day to convert my RM into the USD and park in Sgp.
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Why SGD drop so much?

Is it time to sell or buy more?


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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 5 2015, 12:50 PM)
When the chances to win in a timing opportunity is high, we should take it. I don't think anybody can say that the SG REITs might anytime soon turn around and shoot into the sky. Tendency is more for the SG REITs to plunge further.

I will wait as I accumulate more USDs to be converted into the SGD.

Today is a good day to convert my RM into the USD and park in Sgp.
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It is not guaranteed that SG reit will plunge further as well.
Too many unpredictable event can occur.

In fact, if Sg adopted easing measure, reit may go higher, due to too much liquidity.
Easing, print money, bond yield lower. Bond yield lower, reit higher.

Instead of playing waiting game or "time" the market, it may be better off investing in trenches from time to time.
We never can assure it will go lower or not.
What if it never goes lower, then all cash may become sitting duck earn zero yield. smile.gif

Current financial market is simply too unpredictable.

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