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TSluqmanz
post Nov 19 2006, 12:15 PM, updated 19y ago

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First of all thanks to mod for creating this subforum. thumbup.gif

This thread is for forex traders (trading for profits or as a hobby) to discuss strategies and post their successful trades for others to learn from. We may also discuss about failed trades and learn something from it as well.

What's good about forex?
1) It's a truly globalised market (open 24/5 a week), we are talking about USD 1 trillion worth of transaction every day.
2) It's a free market. Limited regulation compared to securities exchanges.
3) It's where technical analysis works great (I'm so into some technical analysis).
4) Forex trading skills can be apllied in various type of securities and commodities as well (futures, options, gold,soybean). Good for people who consider trading as a professional job.
5) You can open account for -USD 5.00 (yes you get money instead of spending money).

Let's start

Trade : Nov 17 (9pm - 4 am M'sia time)
All positions entered and exited between 9pm-4am.
Total profits : 228 pips
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Keep the posts coming.

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post Nov 19 2006, 12:21 PM

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Bro,
what indicator u use to do the TA
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post Nov 19 2006, 12:30 PM

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hehe..this is my achievement for last week trading thumbup.gif

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forget about HYIP (scam my money about 3k ++ usd vmad.gif mad.gif )

self trading is the best icon_idea.gif

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I updated the post above to show the indicators. These indicators are fibonacci's levels with moving averages.

Wootage those are real money ... my account is virtual trading only ... I'm still training myself.
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post Nov 19 2006, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 19 2006, 12:15 PM)
First of all thanks to mod for creating this subforum.  thumbup.gif

This thread is for forex traders (trading for profits or as a hobby) to discuss strategies and post their successful trades for others to learn from. We may also discuss about failed trades and learn something from it as well.

What's good about forex?
1) It's a truly globalised market (open 24/5 a week), we are talking about USD 1 trillion worth of transaction every day.
2) It's a free market. Limited regulation compared to securities exchanges.
3) It's where technical analysis works great (I'm so into some technical analysis).
4) Forex trading skills can be apllied in various type of securities and commodities as well (futures, options, gold,soybean). Good for people who consider trading as a professional job.
5) You can open account for  -USD 5.00 (yes you get money instead of spending money).

Let's start

Trade : Nov 17 (9pm - 4 am M'sia time)
All positions entered and exited between 9pm-4am.
Total profits : 228 pips
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Keep the posts coming.
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hehe..edit oledi..so u are using vegas...using vegas only or with other indicator?

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post Nov 19 2006, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 19 2006, 12:38 PM)
I updated the post above to show the indicators. These indicators are fibonacci's levels with moving averages.

Wootage those are real money ... my account is virtual trading only ... I'm still training myself.
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yup...3 month using marketiva virtual..now have confident to use real money..

self trading is the best way to earn living..hehe

still newbie in forex...please guide me notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Wow..im also about to start Forex trading..still learning though.. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bogartT @ Nov 19 2006, 01:04 PM)
Wow..im also about to start Forex trading..still learning though..  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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hehe...welcome to forex world... thumbup.gif

lets help each other notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Nov 19 2006, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 19 2006, 12:39 PM)
hehe..edit oledi..so u are using vegas...using vegas only or with other indicator?
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Yaa I use only vegas. No other indicator. Maybe once I become an expert I can invent my own. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bogartT @ Nov 19 2006, 01:04 PM)
Wow..im also about to start Forex trading..still learning though..  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 19 2006, 01:10 PM)
Yaa I use only vegas. No other indicator. Maybe once I become an expert I can invent my own.  sweat.gif
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bro...cadangan..
masok kelas forex..kat nogold.com banyak orang bukak kelas forex..


there a lot of free n defult meta4 indicator that can help u to make more pips..how to use it that will make the diffrent..

click siggy aku kalo nak belajar dengan sifu2 aku ( u will learn hot to do Technical Analysis n make atleast 100 pips a day..serius tak tipu..hehe).. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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no offence but the last time i worked at a forex company it turned out to be a fraud...called up bank negara and they said forex trading is only licensed to banks..came out in the papers once..u dun actually get ur basic salary un til u find urself a client...
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yeah...its a fraud...those agent also ...i duno...but i think better buy from bank...

china ren min bi will rise..believe me..usd will fall..just as what predicted in this book..

FUTURE FAST FORWARD BY MATTHIAS CHANG,LOL..datuk M behind lah..

haha..juz see how its go..
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 19 2006, 01:15 PM)
no offence but the last time i worked at a forex company it turned out to be a fraud...called up bank negara and they said forex trading is only licensed to banks..came out in the papers once..u dun actually get ur basic salary un til u find urself a client...
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watch bloomberg TV... u will find lot of info about online broker like FXCM ect..
maybe the company u work it self is fraud shakehead.gif ..

go n ask pakcik google for more info about forex...last time forex is only for bank n multi-rich people...but now..lot of info on the net..

peace my friend icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 19 2006, 01:17 PM)
yeah...its a fraud...those agent also ...i duno...but i think better buy from bank...

china ren min bi will rise..believe me..usd will fall..just as what predicted in this book..

FUTURE FAST FORWARD BY MATTHIAS CHANG,LOL..datuk M behind lah..

haha..juz see how its go..
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future market aslo use agent what smile.gif

usd already weak because of the news/FA...
go to forexfactory.com to read more

last week, all major pair GU EU EJ AU move 100++ pips because of usd news

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Yay! A forex thread rclxms.gif

Studying it myself. Rasa2 x pandai lagi la. Thinking of joining your class la, hafifee. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 19 2006, 01:30 PM)
Yay! A forex thread  rclxms.gif 

Studying it myself. Rasa2 x pandai lagi la. Thinking of joining your class la, hafifee.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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last time aku pun belajar sendiri..but susah la kalo nak belajar takde cikgu...

read more about my sifu at nogold.com-debtfreedom class laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 19 2006, 01:43 PM)
last time aku pun belajar sendiri..but susah la kalo nak belajar takde cikgu...

read more about my sifu at nogold.com-debtfreedom class  laugh.gif
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USD 100 mahal cikit... tgk dulu la ... klo gigih, belajar ngan ebook, klo x, kena la cari cikgu loh laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 19 2006, 01:50 PM)
USD 100 mahal cikit... tgk dulu la ... klo gigih, belajar ngan ebook, klo x, kena la cari cikgu loh  laugh.gif
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hehe..pay the price my friend...

tp return memang berbaloi...100 usd dapat balik..lebih dari tu lagi...hehehhe thumbup.gif

skarang nie offer 90usd sampai 24nov for debtfreedom
kalo nak murah sikit..masok kelas sugarush..rm250 rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 19 2006, 01:50 PM)
USD 100 mahal cikit... tgk dulu la ... klo gigih, belajar ngan ebook, klo x, kena la cari cikgu loh  laugh.gif
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Download and install the software Marketiva.com. Login dan kat situ ada channel Malaysia. Memang ramai orang kat situ ...nak tanya ape2 semua boleh ... support channel pun ade. That's how I started and now quite ok, can trade and evrything.
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 19 2006, 01:30 PM)
Yay! A forex thread  rclxms.gif 

Studying it myself. Rasa2 x pandai lagi la. Thinking of joining your class la, hafifee.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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If you like, I can send you the tools and guides on forex. I think it's a great starting point. Just pm me your email. Make sure it can accept 5 MB attachment though.
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I use EMA 88 & EMA 144. Both add high and low. Do you guys use pivot point?
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 19 2006, 10:13 PM)
Download and install the software Marketiva.com. Login dan kat situ ada channel Malaysia. Memang ramai orang kat situ ...nak tanya ape2 semua boleh ... support channel pun ade. That's how I started and now quite ok, can trade and evrything.
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Thanks... laugh.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Bila nak trade betul2? Ke dah labur?

QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 20 2006, 09:15 AM)
If you like, I can send you the tools and guides on forex. I think it's a great starting point. Just pm me your email. Make sure it can accept 5 MB attachment though.
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Blh gak... UGPM notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 20 2006, 06:46 PM)
Thanks...  laugh.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  Bila nak trade betul2? Ke dah labur?
Blh gak... UGPM  notworthy.gif
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Saving up money now. Hopefully can start in 4-5 months. Planning to start with Rm5k. Hehe wink.gif

Now is training time.
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QUOTE(diablos @ Nov 20 2006, 05:24 PM)
I use EMA 88 & EMA 144. Both add high and low. Do you guys use pivot point?
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I use pivot points as indicated by candlestick charts. I love it.

Great place to learn

http://candlesticker.com/
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thanks for the info
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I'm using EMA 5,13,62, RSI 21 and Stoch at 21,8,13. sometimes using the WSS 9.4 for news trapping. i'm trying to get the best Time frame for those settings.
some screenshot on my settings+WSS9.4


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try to insert WMA 192 and WMA 96 to ur WSS..
if the WMA going up...buy
if go down sell
if flat...dont enter position...
i read this at one forex forum..n it really help thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 21 2006, 12:53 PM)
I'm using EMA 5,13,62, RSI 21 and Stoch at 21,8,13. sometimes using the WSS 9.4 for news trapping. i'm trying to get the best Time frame for those settings.
some screenshot on my settings+WSS9.4
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wow...
WSS 9.4 is using EWave.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif drool.gif drool.gif

anyone here know how to use eliott wave?
forex otai says that, if u know EW..forex di hujung jari smile.gif

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EUR/JPY short@sell
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 21 2006, 05:57 PM)
try to insert WMA 192 and WMA 96 to ur WSS..
if the WMA going up...buy
if go down sell
if flat...dont enter position...
i read this at one forex forum..n it really help  thumbup.gif
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thanks i'm still looking the supporting indicator that match best to WSS 9.4
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 21 2006, 06:00 PM)
wow...
WSS 9.4 is using EWave..  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

anyone here know how to use eliott wave?
forex otai says that, if u know EW..forex di hujung jari  smile.gif
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I have never used it. Is there certain tools that shows EW ?
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 20 2006, 09:15 AM)
If you like, I can send you the tools and guides on forex. I think it's a great starting point. Just pm me your email. Make sure it can accept 5 MB attachment though.
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u can paste the download link (upload it somewhere) for LYN forexers... flex.gif
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 21 2006, 09:57 PM)
I have never used it. Is there certain tools that shows EW ?
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EW is one of the powerful TA in forex...
consist of wave to see the retracment n projection...

still study EW...pening pale rclxub.gif
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any suggestion which broker is best in term of the demo program, method of deposit or withdrawl money, chart program etc?
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 19 2006, 12:38 PM)
I updated the post above to show the indicators. These indicators are fibonacci's levels with moving averages.

Wootage those are real money ... my account is virtual trading only ... I'm still training myself.
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can you share your so called training experience with us...which webpage to go through, which program are u using etc..
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 22 2006, 09:03 AM)
any suggestion which broker is best in term of the demo program, method of deposit or withdrawl money, chart program etc?
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if for training..i suggest u use marketiva
for charting n demo account..any broker using Meta Trader..NF, InterbankFx, FXDD ect
i use real trader for live trading..last time using marketiva..

marketiva got chat room where u can ask people question..malaysia chat room also got thumbup.gif ...but the charting, too simlpe indicator..not so good to to analysis.


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just registered with marketiva and ran the software... learning the ropes now...
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 21 2006, 12:53 PM)
I'm using EMA 5,13,62, RSI 21 and Stoch at 21,8,13. sometimes using the WSS 9.4 for news trapping. i'm trying to get the best Time frame for those settings.
some screenshot on my settings+WSS9.4
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Owh ko punya wss9.4 pun temp punya. Ingat aku sorang je tongue.gif
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Hrm...apart from all these stuff, have anybody taken their money, I mean their profit out in cold hard cash before from these websites? How does the process goes actually? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 22 2006, 06:56 PM)
Hrm...apart from all these stuff, have anybody taken their money, I mean their profit out in cold hard cash before from these websites? How does the process goes actually?  notworthy.gif
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i oledi taken money many time..
depend on the broker la..just request then 24-48 hours for the payment process..
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QUOTE(modD @ Nov 22 2006, 02:47 PM)
just registered with marketiva and ran the software... learning the ropes now...
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welcome to the club rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
let make real money everyday rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 07:51 PM)
i oledi taken money many time..
depend on the broker la..just request then 24-48 hours for the payment process..
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Oh..? Via E-gold or something else? Is there any fee to it? blink.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 22 2006, 06:35 PM)
Owh ko punya wss9.4 pun temp punya. Ingat aku sorang je tongue.gif
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dah ada 9.4 mesti ada EA kan?camne die nye EA performance?mantap tak?

*EA ni auto trader..kita takyah buat pape..robot tradekan tok kite.
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 22 2006, 07:54 PM)
Oh..? Via E-gold or something else? Is there any fee to it?  blink.gif
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depend on broker...ada broker mcm NF , real trader boleh guna e-gold...aku ambik yg guna egold coz senang n cepat..takde fee tok transfer..

kalo pakai bank wire..dorang charge 30usd(depend ngan broker gak)

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 08:03 PM)
depend on broker...ada broker mcm NF , real trader boleh guna e-gold...aku ambik yg guna egold coz senang n cepat..takde fee tok transfer..

kalo pakai bank wire..dorang charge 30usd(depend ngan broker gak)
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i'm sure the money u got quite many also...mine just joinning for real money, still collecting the profit and re-invest. coz i wanna play big lots on fundamental trades

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any online trading comes with credit card or paypal as payment option?
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QUOTE(ginvin @ Nov 22 2006, 08:46 PM)
any online trading comes with credit card or paypal as payment option?
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yeah got some. but cannot remember try seaching forex broker in google. there should some list available. paypal not sure if they have, but credit card comfirm got some
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 08:02 PM)
dah ada 9.4 mesti ada EA kan?camne die nye EA performance?mantap tak?

*EA ni auto trader..kita takyah buat pape..robot tradekan tok kite.
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EA dia macam ada bug. Masa nak open trade ada error apa ntah tak ingat tongue.gif . ke aku yg salah setting?

btw Hafifee, nick aku dalam debtfreedom adalah Balflear.

ko main guna tf 15 ke atau h4?

kalau tf15 ajar aku sikit leh?
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QUOTE(ginvin @ Nov 22 2006, 08:46 PM)
any online trading comes with credit card or paypal as payment option?
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lot of broker, majority i think can accept credit card...Interbank FX is a real liable broker if u want to use credit card..

FXDD can use paypay as payment method..

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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 22 2006, 09:24 PM)
EA dia macam ada bug. Masa nak open trade ada error apa ntah tak ingat  tongue.gif . ke aku yg salah setting?

btw Hafifee, nick aku dalam debtfreedom adalah Balflear.

ko main guna tf 15 ke atau h4?

kalau tf15 ajar aku sikit leh?
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ehee..rakan seperguruan...
nick aku dalam debtfreedo = pengiran

aku trade h4 tok long trading..peram nye..

kalo tok 20 - 30 pips aku aku gune m30 n h1 je..

tp GU aku tak berani masok...bahaye ooo..mcm hari ni...lompat 90 pips...sape long tu sedap la...tunggu die jatuh balik...

kalo ko nak trade kat TF kecik...ko rujuk RSI ngan Stoch je..tak yah nak tengok yg lain...sifu debt yg ajar...tp kene hati2 la..pastikan OB or OS betol2 baru masok.
ermm...kene banyak belajar dari pengalaman...ko try demo dulu...dah kompiden baru p live lak.
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 22 2006, 08:42 PM)
i'm sure the money u got quite many also...mine just joinning for real money, still collecting the profit and re-invest. coz i wanna play big lots on fundamental trades
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but nov n dis is a very dengerous to trade coz lots of "red factory" news.

u got wss..can help u slay pip from GU...hehe

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 22 2006, 08:51 PM)
yeah got some. but cannot remember try seaching forex broker in google. there should some list available. paypal not sure if they have, but credit card comfirm got some
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 09:33 PM)
ehee..rakan seperguruan...
nick aku dalam debtfreedo = pengiran

aku trade h4 tok long trading..peram nye..

kalo tok 20 - 30 pips aku aku gune  m30 n h1 je..

tp GU aku tak berani masok...bahaye ooo..mcm hari ni...lompat 90 pips...sape long tu sedap la...tunggu die jatuh balik...

kalo ko nak trade kat TF kecik...ko rujuk RSI ngan Stoch je..tak yah nak tengok yg lain...sifu debt yg ajar...tp kene hati2 la..pastikan OB or OS betol2 baru masok.
ermm...kene banyak belajar dari pengalaman...ko try demo dulu...dah kompiden baru p live lak.
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kalau tf m30 dan h1 nak tunggu indicator open mmg lama la, since rsi14 nak tunggu ob/os mmg susah. Aku tgk tf5/15 lagi cepat but taktau psal aku rugi gak sad.gif .

add ym aku la, aku pm ko.(taknak discuss debt punya sistem kat sini sweat.gif).
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 22 2006, 09:46 PM)
kalau tf m30 dan h1 nak tunggu indicator open mmg lama la, since rsi14 nak tunggu ob/os mmg susah. Aku tgk tf5/15 lagi cepat but taktau psal aku rugi gak  sad.gif .

add ym aku la, aku pm ko.(taknak discuss debt punya sistem kat sini  sweat.gif).
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 09:38 PM)
but nov n dis is a very dengerous to trade coz lots of "red factory" news.

u got wss..can help u slay pip from GU...hehe
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i dont hold a trade during news. so during red news or big impact i just set trapping o pending order SELL STOP and BUY STOP. so at least can get some profit. frankly speaking, i love more red news for quick and firm profit... flex.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 22 2006, 10:01 PM)
i dont hold a trade during news. so during red news or big impact i just set trapping o pending order SELL STOP and BUY STOP. so at least can get some profit. frankly speaking, i love more red news for quick and firm profit... flex.gif
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yea..hedging...i also put trap when big news..hehe biggrin.gif

what TA u are using..i mean, indicator u are using?
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I did play demo before.
Im shocked that a guy from swizterland phoned me...lol..

hey guys..why those forex co. doesnt hv ren min bi to invest?
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 22 2006, 10:04 PM)
I did play demo before.
Im shocked that a guy from swizterland phoned me...lol..

hey guys..why those forex co. doesnt hv ren min bi to invest?
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my friend...canot understand the word "bold" up there..? sweat.gif

hehe smile.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 10:04 PM)
yea..hedging...i also put trap when big news..hehe  biggrin.gif

what TA u are using..i mean, indicator u are using?
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i'm using WSS and some WMA,EMA for indicator. sometimes using stoch and RSI.
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 22 2006, 10:04 PM)
I did play demo before.
Im shocked that a guy from swizterland phoned me...lol..

hey guys..why those forex co. doesnt hv ren min bi to invest?
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renminbi is it Chinese RMB? why on minor pair? pip spread usually very large on very very minor pair
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 22 2006, 10:28 PM)
renminbi is it Chinese RMB? why on minor pair? pip spread usually very large on very very minor pair
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major pair = pair witw usd.
cross pair= no usd..

depend on broker also..i found one broker that offer 450 pair shocking.gif ..
even got usd/IRP (indon rupiah)
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lol...i mean why those company doesnt hv pair wif ren min bi..

can anyone tell me malaysia company for forex ?

i wanna use malaysia money to pair wif ren min bi...lol...

wanan buy israel currency also...mind tell me where to get it?
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 10:38 PM)
major pair = pair witw usd.
cross pair= no usd..

depend on broker also..i found one broker that offer 450 pair  shocking.gif ..
even got usd/IRP (indon rupiah)
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what broker is that? any links to check the contract?
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 22 2006, 10:43 PM)
lol...i mean why those company doesnt hv pair wif ren min bi..

can anyone tell me malaysia company for forex ?

i wanna use malaysia money to pair wif ren min bi...lol...

wanan buy israel currency also...mind tell me where to get it?
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that one is kinda rare thing to trade. never experience it so i wouldnt know. furthermore without much info like other major currencies like gbp, usd, chf, jpy the trend movement much more risky and less predictable.
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 22 2006, 10:27 PM)
i'm using WSS and some WMA,EMA for indicator. sometimes using stoch and RSI.
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WSS signal..use to slay wild GU rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 22 2006, 10:47 PM)
WSS signal..use to slay wild GU rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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wss give good signal from this morning, but regret i dont enter any single trade for g/u today coz no confidence. today is kinda wild movement. i tot it will reverse before noon...so there's no doubt the wss gave us some good accuracy. if it say STRONG uptrend there's a high probability it will go uptrend

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 22 2006, 10:57 PM)
wss give good signal from this morning, but regret i dont enter any single trade for g/u today coz no confidence. today is kinda wild movement. i tot it will reverse before noon...so there's no doubt the wss gave us some good accuracy. if it say STRONG uptrend there's a high probability it will go uptrend

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I like the new indicator top left corner of wss9.4.
useful to me to see the trend more accurately rather simply depend on the trend indicator.

btw can you use the EA? mine seems cant auto open position at all.

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 22 2006, 10:57 PM)
wss give good signal from this morning, but regret i dont enter any single trade for g/u today coz no confidence. today is kinda wild movement. i tot it will reverse before noon...so there's no doubt the wss gave us some good accuracy. if it say STRONG uptrend there's a high probability it will go uptrend

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gu now is 1.9149...wow.. rclxm9.gif
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wow GU was insane yesterday ... I entered the trade just before breakout .. but I made mistake with the stop-loss order ... I got whipsawed .... sigh ...

Should have gotten 120 pips yesterday ... Too bad sad.gif
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wow... the more i try Marketiva & the more i read about Winning Solution, i'm beginning to have faith in this forex thingy. What type of membership did you guys get for WSS?
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hmm.. don't really understand this thing
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If you use high leverage and get super lucky. Let's say you leverage your positions at 100:1. That means that if you start with $1,000, at full margin, you can trade $100,000 of currency.

So, if you have $1,000 to trade and you want to buy Euros for example, if the EUR/USD pair is at 1.20 and it rises to 1.21 in ten minutes you make a $1,000 profit. You double your initial investment in just ten minutes!

why does it meant by having $1000 but can trade $100k?
is this means i just pump in 1k, and i have 100k as capital? if i lose all 100k, then i have to pay additional 99k??

haha.. any good sites that allow me to play a demo account??

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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Nov 23 2006, 02:11 PM)
hmm.. don't really understand this thing

why does it meant by having $1000 but can trade $100k?
is this means i just pump in 1k, and i have 100k as capital? if i lose all 100k, then i have to pay additional 99k??

haha.. any good sites that allow me to play a demo account??
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$1 = 100 quantities
$10 = 1000 quantities
$100 = 10000 quantities and so on ...

that is the meaning

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QUOTE(modD @ Nov 23 2006, 01:54 PM)
wow... the more i try Marketiva & the more i read about Winning Solution, i'm beginning to have faith in this forex thingy. What type of membership did you guys get for WSS?
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If u want to try for wss , maybe u can get the Bronze version for 14 days which cost you $20 . Try it first , when u think it helps you alot then u just upgrade to lifetime version. This is what i suggest you to do although i not using wss . Because it is based on the Breakout system , and there are many of FREE breakout system which u can easily find it .
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Correct me if I'm wrong...

the $1k u put in is the margin a/c..

basically covers the profit / losses arrising from the trade..

Max u can loose is the $1k you put in...

If more.. then "Margin Call" lah... like playing futures ??


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so, in the example above, the real profit i earn is $1000 or $10??
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To make it easy , let's say u have deposited $1000 (USD) and u open a position for 20000 quantities = ( 200usd) . At the PortFolio it will show that your Used Margin : 200.00 and Available Margin : xxx - (Amount after deduct your Used Margin and Total Profit)

Example : GBP/USD [Bid = 1.9143] [Offer = 1.9148]

You Short on G/U at 1.9143 with 200 USD and u will see a -5 pips because of the 5 pips spread. What will show in your Portfolio is like below :

[USD 1000.0000]
Used Margin : 200.0000
Available Margin : 790.00
Total Profit : -10.00



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QUOTE(modD @ Nov 23 2006, 01:54 PM)
wow... the more i try Marketiva & the more i read about Winning Solution, i'm beginning to have faith in this forex thingy. What type of membership did you guys get for WSS?
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well if you plan to buy wss dont trust 100% on the given signal. you still need to use your own skill also (TA and FA).

My membership for wss right now is Diamond (previously was known as gold)

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ya, if you rely on a particular signal too much . You might burn up all your money , nothing is 100% just do research on which indicator that u like and suit u the best , try it with different timeframe and different pair and u can start trade your LIVE trading in forex and start grabbing pips everyday .
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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Nov 23 2006, 02:11 PM)
hmm.. don't really understand this thing

why does it meant by having $1000 but can trade $100k?
is this means i just pump in 1k, and i have 100k as capital? if i lose all 100k, then i have to pay additional 99k??

haha.. any good sites that allow me to play a demo account??
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If you have USD 1000, you trade 100,000 units. It's a 1:100 leverage.

Let's say your investment drop .. your position will be liquidated automatically when the value is 99,000.
So you lose USD 1000 and owe nothing at all (assuming you didnt borrow from anyone the USD1000). smile.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 23 2006, 02:38 PM)
To make it easy , let's say u have deposited $1000 (USD) and u open a position for 20000 quantities = ( 200usd) .  At the PortFolio it will show that your Used Margin : 200.00 and Available Margin : xxx - (Amount after deduct your Used Margin and Total Profit)

Example :  GBP/USD  [Bid = 1.9143]  [Offer = 1.9148]

You Short on G/U at 1.9143 with 200 USD and u will see a -5 pips because of the 5 pips spread. What will show in your Portfolio is like below :

[USD 1000.0000]
Used Margin : 200.0000
Available Margin : 790.00
Total Profit : -10.00
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ok ok.. i get it..
it was
buy: 1.9148 * 20000 = 38296
sell: 1.9143 * 20000 = 38286

so, i'll lose $10
correct?

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i've started to trade using Marketiva. Putting my bet based on GUTS while i go surf around start studying the strategy, indicator, lingo and other stuff about Forex. yeah i lost USD3000 when i finish all the reading/researching. great lesson i have there. that's how ppl who're lack of knowledge lose money. will start trading based on tech/fundamental analysis tomorrow.

fyi i haven't start live yet. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 23 2006, 03:39 PM)
i've started to trade using Marketiva. Putting my bet based on GUTS while i go surf around start studying the strategy, indicator, lingo and other stuff about Forex. yeah i lost USD3000 when i finish all the reading/researching. great lesson i have there. that's how ppl who're lack of knowledge lose money. will start trading based on tech/fundamental analysis tomorrow.

fyi i haven't start live yet. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Nov 23 2006, 03:15 PM)
ok ok.. i get it..
it was
buy: 1.9148 * 20000 = 38296
sell: 1.9143 * 20000 = 38286

so, i'll lose $10
correct?
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can someone illustrate an example on the calculation of overnight interest charges?
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 23 2006, 03:50 PM)
Learn from mistake and prevent from repeating the same mistake again
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That's correct, emotional mistakes is the hardest mistakes to correct IMO.

QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 23 2006, 06:26 PM)
can someone illustrate an example  on the calculation of overnight interest charges?
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http://www.ac-markets.com/en/online-forex/...t-positions.asp. Hope this helps.
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Overnight Interest

Every currency and commodity has a "cost of carry" associated with holding the position for more than one day. It is called "overnight interest" or "premium". In currencies, this cost is a function of the "interest rate differential" of the two currencies that comprise the exchange rate.

For example, in USD/JPY, the interest rate differential is the difference between short-term U.S. interest rates and short-term Japanese interest rates. If, for example, U.S. interest rates are 5.0% and Japanese interest rates are 1.0%, the interest rate differential is 4.0% (5.0% - 1.0%). This means that if a trader was to sell USD/JPY, he would have to pay 4.0% of the notional amount of the contract per year to hold the position. If position quantity is 100,000, the trader would have to pay approximately $4,000 to hold the position for one year. This translates to approximately $11.00 per day for holding the USD/JPY position ($4,000 / 365).



I am used to Oanda but finally decided to test run marketiva. What the heck. Lucky me made 970 in my first trade, paper of course tongue.gif . laugh.gif . Not to complain but IMO marketiva is really simple. Also a salute to treadstarted for showing his trades here. Hope to learn something here. thumbup.gif

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woooo forex looks intresting...but risky....

not ready yet.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alieamin @ Nov 23 2006, 08:48 PM)
woooo forex looks intresting...but risky....

not ready yet.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(flattyre @ Nov 23 2006, 02:31 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong...

the $1k u put in is the margin a/c..

basically covers the profit / losses arrising from the trade..

Max u can loose is the $1k you put in...

If more.. then "Margin Call" lah... like playing futures ??
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yea..u are right..

FOREX IS ALL ABOUT MONEY MANAGEMENT AND DICIPLIN

money management is very important...20% of ur available margin..

if u have 1000usd..u can only trade 200usd max pertrade..to avoid margin call n less the risk of loss.
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HI...new here...
quite confused.....u guys talking bout real money or demo?
mind to explain briefly?
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 23 2006, 06:26 PM)
can someone illustrate an example on the calculation of overnight interest charges?
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normally SWAP depend on the broker..some broker charge u 3% per day..

but i suggest to use marketiva first..no SWAP n u can start trading using 1usd..even u get 5usd free when signup thumbup.gif

other broker need big margin to start trading
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QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 23 2006, 07:58 PM)
That's correct, emotional mistakes is the hardest mistakes to correct IMO.
http://www.ac-markets.com/en/online-forex/...t-positions.asp. Hope this helps.
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I am used to Oanda but finally decided to test run marketiva. What the heck. Lucky me made 970 in my first trade, paper of course tongue.gif . laugh.gif . Not to complain but IMO marketiva is really simple. Also a salute to treadstarted for showing his trades here. Hope to learn something here. thumbup.gif
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trade wit marketiva..but do analysis with meta 4 platform..marketiva is too simple platform...

i tell u one secret..sometime marketiva platform is slow than meta trader..so u have chance to enter the market at metatrader price thumbup.gif thumbup.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 23 2006, 10:31 PM)
HI...new here...
quite confused.....u guys talking bout real money or demo?
mind to explain briefly?
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for beginner ..i suggest u to trade with virtual money..or demo..to built ur confident first..
then start using real money..
i also trade virtual money for 6 month b4 i start use real money.
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 23 2006, 03:39 PM)
i've started to trade using Marketiva. Putting my bet based on GUTS while i go surf around start studying the strategy, indicator, lingo and other stuff about Forex. yeah i lost USD3000 when i finish all the reading/researching. great lesson i have there. that's how ppl who're lack of knowledge lose money. will start trading based on tech/fundamental analysis tomorrow.

fyi i haven't start live yet. biggrin.gif
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jump into market with out knowing the trend is like gambling.

90% of newbie trader will lost all they money, some go bankrup 10% of elite trader will make profit..so lets be in the 10% group, the elite trader group.HOW??
----> find all the basic trading knowledge b4 u enter the market. smile.gif
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signal for the day..hehe

AUD/USD short ..wait until the right moment to enter market..

best price to enter: 0.7750 and above

stop loss= 30 - 100 pips..how much u willing to loss?

Take profit:

1st target : 0.7714

2nd target : 0.7700

3rd target: 0.7668



happy trading

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 23 2006, 10:37 PM)
for beginner ..i suggest u to trade with virtual money..or demo..to built ur confident first..
then start using real money..
i also trade virtual money for 6 month b4 i start use real money.
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so it is a free software to try that?
use marketiva?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 23 2006, 10:53 PM)
so it is a free software to try that?
use marketiva?
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yes..it is free to try..
marketiva is a very simple platform..
but to to the analysis ..i use meta trader..also free if u just open demo account

but first...invest in ur self first to get the knowledge about forex b4 u start trade real money...trust me, i've learn the hard way biggrin.gif
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yes..it is free to try..
marketiva is a very simple platform..
but to to the analysis ..i use meta trader..also free if u just open demo account

but first...invest in ur self first to get the knowledge about forex b4 u start trade real money...trust me, i've learn the hard way  biggrin.gif
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if talking bout real money, wat is the minimun capital needed?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 23 2006, 11:01 PM)
if talking bout real money, wat is the minimun capital needed?
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if u using marketiva...100usd u can start tradebut only using micro lot..

if u consider to trade using mini lot(500usd) or standart lot(1000usd)..

u got to have atleast 4k as ur free margin..to be on the safe side



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if u using marketiva...100usd u can start tradebut only using micro lot..

if u consider to trade using mini lot(500usd) or standart lot(1000usd)..

u got to have atleast 4k as ur free margin..to be on the safe side
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confuse again....i thought that marketiva is a virtual software so mean i like playing a game, right?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 23 2006, 11:26 PM)
confuse again....i thought that marketiva is a virtual software so mean i like playing a game, right?
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marketiva is one of the forex broker..

broker offer demo account/ practice account for beginner..they give u 10k -50k virtual money and u can use that virtual money to trade in real market/ current market situation..with virtual money...if u loss..it will not effect u.
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 23 2006, 11:34 PM)
marketiva is one of the forex broker..

broker offer demo account/ practice account for beginner..they give u 10k -50k virtual money and u can use that virtual money to trade in real market/ current market situation..with virtual money...if u loss..it will not effect u.
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Ok....using virtual money to invest in REAL MARKET?
so juz to train up, is it?

So if using real money to invest, 4k usd minimun needed?
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Ok....using virtual money to invest in REAL MARKET?
so juz to train up, is it?

So if using real money to invest, 4k usd minimun needed?
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yup..thats the idea..to give u the feel of real market b4 u start to use real money..

4k is only my suggestion ..time by time, u will know the right amount u need to start trading smile.gif

invest in knowledge first..take the first step..

see my siggy for forex class..easy to understand n malaysian teacher thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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yup..thats the idea..to give u the feel of real market b4 u start to use real money..

4k is only my suggestion ..time by time, u will know the right amount u need to start trading  smile.gif

invest in knowledge first..take the first step..

see my siggy for forex class..easy to understand n malaysian teacher  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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haha.....nice advertising there....
but i think i had read up somewhere that can online self learning....
Or i can direct ask u guys here... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 23 2006, 10:35 PM)
trade wit marketiva..but do analysis with meta 4 platform..marketiva is too simple platform...

i tell u one secret..sometime marketiva platform is slow than meta trader..so u have chance to enter the market at metatrader price  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Meta 4 platform is it good?, will give it a try later. I am trading futures using Thinkorswim. laugh.gif Its thanksgiving so I am kinda free to post here icon_rolleyes.gif .
It a good idea but IMO difficult to implement if you are almost half way around the world. You know what I mean. laugh.gif Just curious , what time frame do you trade? My initial feel is that forex is best swing traded.
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Meta 4 platform is it good?, will give it a try later. I am trading futures using Thinkorswim. laugh.gif Its thanksgiving so I am kinda free to post here icon_rolleyes.gif .
It a good idea but IMO difficult to implement if you are almost half way around the world. You know what I mean. laugh.gif Just curious , what time frame do you trade? My initial feel is that forex is best swing traded.
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for swing trade..i use h4 TF..
but now holiday..so i become scalper at the 5m n 15m tf..
u trade futures..so forex is the same..same method to to TA on the futures graf
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I think i read up somewhere that 5k usd can earn 800usd profit in 1 month....so this consider a common 1 or high profit?
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haha.....nice advertising there....
but i think i had read up somewhere that can online self learning....
Or i can direct ask u guys here... tongue.gif
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hehe..no prob bor...u can learn by ur self..it all depend on our level to adapt knowledge.
i also start by self learning..n at one time..i really need a teacher because i cant see the light.. cry.gif ...now i got teacher to guide me. thumbup.gif
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I think i read up somewhere that 5k usd can earn 800usd profit in 1 month....so this consider a common 1 or high profit?
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everything can be possible if u have the skill to do the analysis..

see first page...i make 122usd in 5days..only using 360usd as my initial margin...
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Ok....using virtual money to invest in REAL MARKET?
so juz to train up, is it?

So if using real money to invest, 4k usd minimun needed?
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Ok if you are really serious in diving into the world of trading. Prepare for the hardwork and pain you are gonna endure. Am I scaring you sweat.gif doh.gif . I scare myself sometimes laugh.gif But seriously, I would not be asking how much do I need for my seed capital, what I will be asking myself is , Will my capital gain value?How can I achieve this or will I just burn and blame everything else except myself unsure.gif .
Training is part of your development as a trader. I strongly believe paper trading is the best way to get started. You get to place trade with out losing molah thumbup.gif of course you don't make real money too shocking.gif . I remember using OptionXPress and blowing my acc couple of times. rclxub.gif Once you are profitable for a period of time trading paper then move to live.By the way retail trader are called paper by floor people. There you will find more thing you need tackle and tune. And by the way trading is not like getting a degree IMO. Just my thoughts.
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everything can be possible if u have the skill to do the analysis..

see first page...i make 122usd in 5days..only using 360usd as my initial margin...
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real or virtue? rclxms.gif

QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 24 2006, 12:16 AM)
Ok if you are really serious in diving into the world of trading. Prepare for the hardwork and pain you are gonna endure. Am I scaring you  sweat.gif  doh.gif . I scare myself sometimes  laugh.gif But seriously, I would not be asking how much do I need for my seed capital, what I will be asking myself is , Will my capital gain value?How can I achieve this or will I just burn and blame everything else except myself unsure.gif .
Training is part of your development as a trader. I strongly believe paper trading is the best way to get started. You get to place trade with out losing molah thumbup.gif of course you don't make real money too shocking.gif . I remember using OptionXPress and blowing my acc couple of times. rclxub.gif  Once you are profitable for a period of time trading paper then move to live.By the way retail trader are called paper by floor people. There you will find more thing you need tackle and tune. And by the way trading is not like getting a degree IMO. Just my thoughts.
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not scaring me though. Of coz something need to be sascrifice at 1st b4 i can earn back another thing. I will be quite excited if i master it also. Juz quite blur as i juz start my study a couple hours ago....i was like....WTH is the web saying?

then all question mark...????? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif stars too....
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QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 24 2006, 12:16 AM)
Ok if you are really serious in diving into the world of trading. Prepare for the hardwork and pain you are gonna endure. Am I scaring you  sweat.gif  doh.gif . I scare myself sometimes  laugh.gif But seriously, I would not be asking how much do I need for my seed capital, what I will be asking myself is , Will my capital gain value?How can I achieve this or will I just burn and blame everything else except myself unsure.gif .
Training is part of your development as a trader. I strongly believe paper trading is the best way to get started. You get to place trade with out losing molah thumbup.gif of course you don't make real money too shocking.gif . I remember using OptionXPress and blowing my acc couple of times. rclxub.gif  Once you are profitable for a period of time trading paper then move to live.By the way retail trader are called paper by floor people. There you will find more thing you need tackle and tune. And by the way trading is not like getting a degree IMO. Just my thoughts.
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agree with u rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
for me..to learn trading skill need sacrifice in lots of aspect, espacially money sweat.gif n time..take ur time to learn about the market, trend, how it move. no body in this world can give u the right answer what will happend next..it all depend on ur analysis skill n ur believe on the result that u produce by your own analysis.
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 12:08 AM)
for swing trade..i use h4 TF..
but now holiday..so i become scalper at the 5m n 15m tf..
u trade futures..so forex is the same..same method to to TA on the futures graf
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Ya well almost, gotta tweak some of the indicator. Still just doing for fun to join the band wagon. I will stick to futures thank you blush.gif .

QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:11 AM)
I think i read up somewhere that 5k usd can earn 800usd profit in 1 month....so this consider a common 1 or high profit?
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Did they include this laugh.gif blink.gif shocking.gif shakehead.gif
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HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS HAVE MANY INHERENT LIMITATIONS, SOME OF WHICH ARE DESCRIBED BELOW. NO REPRESENTATION IS BEING MADE THAT ANY ACCOUNT WILL OR IS LIKELY TO ACHIEVE PROFITS OR LOSSES SIMILAR TO THOSE SHOWN. IN FACT, THERE ARE FREQUENTLY SHARP DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND THE ACTUAL RESULTS SUBSEQUENTLY ACHIEVED BY ANY PARTICULAR TRADING PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS IS THAT THEY ARE GENERALLY PREPARED WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT. IN ADDITION, HYPOTHETICAL TRADING DOES NOT INVOLVE FINANCIAL RISK, AND NO HYPOTHETICAL TRADING RECORD CAN COMPLETELY ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACT OF FINANCIAL RISK IN ACTUAL TRADING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND LOSSES OR TO ADHERE TO A PARTICULAR TRADING PROGRAM IN SPITE OF TRADING LOSSES ARE MATERIAL POINTS WHICH CAN ALSO ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER FACTORS RELATED TO THE MARKETS IN GENERAL OR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY SPECIFIC TRADING PROGRAM WHICH CANNOT BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PREPARATION OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND ALL OF WHICH CAN ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS.

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My bad english, i not really understand the quote....
still too young + bad english i assume
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:20 AM)
real or virtue?  rclxms.gif



if virtual...how come only 477usd..hehe
this is my virtual account....

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see the balance whistling.gif

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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:20 AM)
not scaring me though. Of coz something need to be sascrifice at 1st b4 i can earn back another thing. I will be quite excited if i master it also. Juz quite blur as i juz start my study a couple hours ago....i was like....WTH is the web saying?

then all question mark...????? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif stars too....
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hehe..u see what i mean if u try to learn with out having teacher to guide.. very hard my friend...sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 12:30 AM)
if virtual...how come only 477usd..hehe
this is my virtual account....

user posted image

see the balance  whistling.gif

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hehe..u see what i mean if u try to learn with out having teacher to guide..  very hard my friend...sweat.gif
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Haha....wat u trying to say if only i had more money, i could earn more too....right?

the balance is 5 figure? Haha...hope it was my money ( real not virtue tongue.gif )

Haiz c 1st, i juz suddenly interested in Ferox, mayb i will change my mind in second...
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:20 AM)
real or virtue?  rclxms.gif
not scaring me though. Of coz something need to be sascrifice at 1st b4 i can earn back another thing. I will be quite excited if i master it also. Juz quite blur as i juz start my study a couple hours ago....i was like....WTH is the web saying?

then all question mark...????? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif stars too....
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Saying is the easy part I can assure you. You're malaysian right not working I hope, Imagine sitting in front of the computer at 8.30pm to 4am, well depends if you wanna just trade the morning or afternoon sessions. Waiting sitting waiting, staring at the computer, tired then suddenly you see an entry, a chance ,you go for it, few minutes later the market move your way, you rejoiced, in the back of your head you imagine, you are walking to the bank tomorrow, then in one tick/minute, it reverses, you wanna bail out, hastily you send the close order, you are not getting filled wtf you get whipsawed and cursing wtf happened. You said thats it for today, sleep. Tomorrow is a new day.Haha now that literature for ya. Yes it did happen.

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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:33 AM)
Haha....wat u trying to say if only i had more money, i could earn more too....right?

the balance is 5 figure? Haha...hope it was my money ( real not virtue  tongue.gif )

Haiz c 1st, i juz suddenly interested in Ferox, mayb i will change my mind in second...
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not only lot of money...also lot of knowledge + experience...

i also wish that virtual money is real money..then i dont have to go to university any more tongue.gif
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My bad english, i not really understand the quote....
still too young + bad english i assume
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Some clause to protect themself from getting sued.
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QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 24 2006, 12:37 AM)
Saying is the easy part I can assure you. You're malaysian right not working I hope, Imagine sitting in front of the computer at 8.30pm to 4am, well depends if you wanna just trade the morning or afternoon sessions. Waiting sitting waiting, staring at the computer, tired then suddenly you see an entry, a chance ,you go for it, few minutes later the market move your way, you rejoiced, in the back of your head you imagine, you are walking to the bank tomorrow, then in one tick/minute, it reverses, you wanna bail out, hastily you send the close order,  you are not getting filled wtf you get whipsawed and cursing wtf happened. You said that it for today, sleep. Tomorrow is a new day.Haha now that literature for ya. Yes it did happen.
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yea...mental war...thay y do analysis first..i u believe it will go ur way..than stick..
one of trader personality is "patient"..very important
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QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 24 2006, 12:37 AM)
Saying is the easy part I can assure you. You're malaysian right not working I hope, Imagine sitting in front of the computer at 8.30pm to 4am, well depends if you wanna just trade the morning or afternoon sessions. Waiting sitting waiting, staring at the computer, tired then suddenly you see an entry, a chance ,you go for it, few minutes later the market move your way, you rejoiced, in the back of your head you imagine, you are walking to the bank tomorrow, then in one tick/minute, it reverses, you wanna bail out, hastily you send the close order,  you are not getting filled wtf you get whipsawed and cursing wtf happened. You said thats it for today, sleep. Tomorrow is a new day.Haha now that literature for ya. Yes it did happen.
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It is ok to me. Indeed today i spent my whole day sitting in front of pc.

QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 24 2006, 12:39 AM)
Some clause to protect themself from getting sued.
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U mean the purpose of using quote?
i actually mean i dun understand the meaning in ur quote.
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 12:30 AM)
if virtual...how come only 477usd..hehe
this is my virtual account....

user posted image

see the balance  whistling.gif

user posted image
hehe..u see what i mean if u try to learn with out having teacher to guide..  very hard my friend...sweat.gif
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Maybe he can adopt uncle goog to be his teacher. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:33 AM)
Haha....wat u trying to say if only i had more money, i could earn more too....right?

the balance is 5 figure? Haha...hope it was my money ( real not virtue  tongue.gif )

Haiz c 1st, i juz suddenly interested in Ferox, mayb i will change my mind in second...
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Come on didn't you read my posts. What's with the if I got more money talk. If you can't be profitable with 1000k how are you going to with 100,000k. shocking.gif

QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 12:39 AM)
not only lot of money...also lot of knowledge + experience...

i also wish that virtual money is real money..then i dont have to go to university any more  tongue.gif
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And passion IMO. Also please the best investment is yourself. Get a good education a degree, masters perhaps. Keep working on your training but don't forget about the importants of education. Still need to keep food on the table laugh.gif Damn now I sound like and old man which I am not.
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QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 24 2006, 12:47 AM)
Maybe he can adopt uncle goog to be his teacher. icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_idea.gif
Come on didn't you read my posts. What's with the if I got more money talk. If you can't be profitable with 1000k how are you going to with 100,000k.  shocking.gif
And passion IMO. Also please the best investment is yourself. Get a good education a degree, masters perhaps. Keep working on your training but don't forget about the importants of education. Still need to keep food on the table laugh.gif Damn now I sound like and old man which I am not.
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hehe..i know that..i will finish my study..n along the way i will learn the knowledge to become better trader..after grad..no need to worry about job tongue.gif
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Come on didn't you read my posts. What's with the if I got more money talk. If you can't be profitable with 1000k how are you going to with 100,000k.  shocking.gif
And passion IMO. Also please the best investment is yourself. Get a good education a degree, masters perhaps. Keep working on your training but don't forget about the importants of education. Still need to keep food on the table laugh.gif Damn now I sound like and old man which I am not.
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Comon, i mean if his have really so many cash on hand then im sure his balance will juz be the same as the pic. Of coz i know need to have experience+ knowledge+ patient+ a lot more to have a profitable invest. U dun look like old man, wise young man tongue.gif
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It is ok to me. Indeed today i spent my whole day sitting in front of pc.
U mean the purpose of using quote?
i actually mean i dun understand the meaning in ur quote.
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Dude I am going to sleep good luck in your trading if you wish to start.
Well the meaning is to protect themself(people who make claim of profits or provide services in forms of advice or training those sort) from getting sued by you if you lose money following their advice. Well if you do profit keep quiet. icon_idea.gif There are many variations thats just one.
I am gonna test something........ blush.gif
Short USD/EUR well now. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:30 AM)
My bad english, i not really understand the quote....
still too young + bad english i assume
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How old are u ?


QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 24 2006, 12:53 AM)
Dude I am going to sleep good luck in your trading if you wish to start.
Well the meaning is to protect themself(people who make claim of profits or provide services in forms of advice or training those sort) from getting sued by you if you lose money following their advice. Well if you do profit keep quiet. icon_idea.gif  There are many variations thats just one.
I am gonna test something........ blush.gif
Short USD/EUR well now. laugh.gif
Good night.
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Many people started giving a SHORT on eu gu . It will move down for sure and i don't think it is a prefect entry right now . Maybe we can give a short by tomorrow for eu , gu highest point . We have to see the forex calender by next week too, if there are many bad news for USD then it will continue to go higher. Just hope for the best. THUMBS UP traders


By the way i just want to do some SURVERY . How old are u guys and since u started trading .

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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 24 2006, 03:42 AM)
How old are u ?
Many people started giving a SHORT on eu gu . It will move down for sure and i don't think it is a prefect entry right now .  Maybe we can give a short by tomorrow for eu , gu highest point . We have to see the forex calender by next week too, if there are many bad news for USD then it will continue to go higher. Just hope for the best. THUMBS UP traders
By the way i just want to do some SURVERY . How old are u guys and since when u started trading .
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im also waiting to short on eu n gu..maybe next week...gu maybe can retract to the highest 1.93xx if gu broke 1.9213 resistance..still believe that gu will go down to 1.87xx icon_rolleyes.gif

Im 21 years old...sudah tua la shocking.gif
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just stated this forex conner last week..thanks to luqmanz..
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not bad at least we got some 2x years old forex traders CHEERS and good luck to every traders . Today we dont have much news to trade , mostly is just for scalping and technical trading .
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 07:58 AM)
just stated this forex conner last week..thanks to luqmanz..
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looking at your consistency of winning, can you share some TA or indicator settings that you're using in specific? and the time frame also. i got and read everything in debtfreedomfx ebook. do you rely 100% in the ebook? or might be you have your own TA. i might wanna give a try
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not bad at least we got some 2x years old forex traders CHEERS and good luck to every traders . Today we dont have much news to trade , mostly is just for scalping and technical trading .
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You're right ... I have been bored since Tuesday where I got whipsawed during GU rally this week and last night there were too little market action. sweat.gif
Hoping for the GU indicators to reverse. Let's watch it closely hehe ...
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 24 2006, 08:09 AM)
not bad at least we got some 2x years old forex traders CHEERS and good luck to every traders . Today we dont have much news to trade , mostly is just for scalping and technical trading .
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Well im younger than hafifee tongue.gif. 20 this year.
but still on the learning side just to be safe.
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 07:57 AM)
im also waiting to short on eu n gu..maybe next week...gu maybe can retract to the highest 1.93xx if gu broke 1.9213 resistance..still believe that gu will go down to 1.87xx  icon_rolleyes.gif

Im 21 years old...sudah tua la  shocking.gif
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one question, what is LONG and SHORT?
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LONG = pair currency go up

SHORT = opposite of long = pair currency go down
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LONG = pair currency go up

SHORT = opposite of long = pair currency go down
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Ermm

Long = Buy
Short = Sell

Bulls = pair currency go up
Bears = pair currency go down
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How old are u ?
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Im 17....still takeing SPM
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 24 2006, 11:22 AM)
Ermm

Long = Buy
Short = Sell

Bulls = pair currency go up
Bears = pair currency go down
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aaah thanks... was confused when peeps in the marketiva chatroom say "G/U's going down, should i short it?"
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Aha....not sure of joining. Juz interested. Wil try after SPM then. Btw, where to get those software?
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Aha....not sure of joining. Juz interested. Wil try after SPM then. Btw, where to get those software?
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im using MT4 and marketiva .. still learning on virtual money/trading
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im using MT4 and marketiva .. still learning on virtual money/trading
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Yaya....but where to get it?
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normally trader uses MT4 to analyse the market or apply favourite indicators on the chart to find signals and use marketiva to trade since there is no extra charges for it and marketiva using simple platform , it is so easy to understand . You can go to the Forex Chat channel to chat with all the marketiva traders and there are also a Malaysia channel which loaded with malaysian but in malaysia channel they speak Malay
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BTW, still haven tell me where to get those software....
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marketiva - www.marketiva.com
MT4 - www.northfinance.com google it u can find more brokers that using MT4
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 24 2006, 02:29 PM)
marketiva - www.marketiva.com
MT4 - www.northfinance.com  google it u can find more brokers that using MT4
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haha....10x r the link....
Btw, i duno the real process actually.
I mean if deal with real money.
Go where buy, sell and manage ur money thing?
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Go to marketiva site and start reading , and try to understand what they are saying and trade with virtual first .
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Go to marketiva site and start reading , and try to understand what they are saying and trade with virtual first .
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I juz want to know how the real process work....
Doesnt mean i really want to start it directly using real money laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 20 2006, 09:15 AM)
If you like, I can send you the tools and guides on forex. I think it's a great starting point. Just pm me your email. Make sure it can accept 5 MB attachment though.
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Mayb he will be kind enough to provides us....
PM u my email....Haha laugh.gif
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haha....10x r the link....
Btw, i duno the real process actually.
I mean if deal with real money.
Go where buy, sell and manage ur money thing?
paypal, egold, ccard .. just downlod marketiva software and u know..

yea, basicly MT4 is for indic, analysis , bla² .. and marketiva for buy/sell currency

right now its sideways trend.. sad.gif
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question to the mini, micro lot trader:

the indicator can show differently on different time frame chart. most of u do long term(weeks), mid term(days), or shortterm(intra-day) trading?

is it worth waiting when u're on the losing side? or close it immediately? (or stop-loss?)
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 24 2006, 02:51 PM)
question to the mini, micro lot trader:

the indicator can show differently on different time frame chart. most of u do long term(weeks), mid term(days), or shortterm(intra-day) trading?

is it worth waiting when u're on the losing side? or close it immediately? (or stop-loss?)
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it depends on u ..

but i do per day ...


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WTA....marketiva open account is free of charge?
sorry for noob question....
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ya .. free .. they even give u usd 5 for live trading
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ya .. free .. they even give u usd 5 for live trading
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then how my capital?
others than that usd5?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 03:05 PM)
then how my capital?
others than that usd5?
live = they give u free usd5

virtual = usd 10k to start
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QUOTE(tam_ironcup @ Nov 24 2006, 02:22 PM)
interesting, tis forex thing....
are there any sites for the ultra noob, cos found some, but kinda complicated tongue.gif
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here u go, a simple site http://www.babypips.com/

i'm sure there are lots more informative sites
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live = they give u free usd5

virtual = usd 10k to start
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from virtual switch to real, still using marketiva to play?
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^ just sign up, install marketiva and tryout now than u'll know. every is free until u start transfering ur money into it. tongue.gif
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from virtual switch to real, still using marketiva to play?
if u trade with live .. it will indicates live trading on the window

have u download the software yet?

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^ just sign up, install marketiva and tryout now than u'll know. every is free until u start transfering ur money into it. tongue.gif
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haha...kk....open account or download 1st?
i cant find the link to download in there...
juz found 1 streamster, need to download that? laugh.gif

virtual lose can replay?
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haha...kk....open account or download 1st?
i cant find the link to download in there...
juz found 1 streamster, need to download that? laugh.gif

virtual lose can replay?
ya.. dwnload that streamster(its the software's name)

replay? dont know bout' that ... nvr lost entire 10k usd for virtual
last time went down to usd 8k .. then gained usd 8k , well that was 2 months ago rclxm9.gif
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ya.. dwnload that streamster(its the software's name)

replay? dont know bout' that ... nvr lost entire 10k usd for virtual
last time went down to usd 8k .. then gained usd 8k , well that was 2 months ago  rclxm9.gif
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haha....coz i plan to simplay play for starting...c how....
so anyone here bangkrupt b4 in virtual?
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 24 2006, 11:22 AM)
Ermm

Long = Buy
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Bulls = pair currency go up
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Short means sell?
last night i was in marketiva. i don't know what i click while buying, but it wrote there short and then i also don't know what happen and i lost 4 pips sweat.gif
usually those i buy are all long.

i played with usd/jpy. bought a lot at 11pm++. then morning wake up rclxm9.gif
bought below 116.20 and sell at 116.30 biggrin.gif
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question to the mini, micro lot trader:

the indicator can show differently on different time frame chart. most of u do long term(weeks), mid term(days), or shortterm(intra-day) trading?

is it worth waiting when u're on the losing side? or close it immediately? (or stop-loss?)
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I use stop loss. It's a very important habit to use stop loss. I trade whenever there's a chance (indicator positive). Many times I dont trade anything at all in a day. Dont force yourself to trade when theres no good trade. You will lose money that way. sweat.gif

QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 02:59 PM)
WTA....marketiva open account is free of charge?
sorry for noob question....
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No it's actually -USD 5. sweat.gif You get money instead of paying.

QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 03:10 PM)
from virtual switch to real, still using marketiva to play?
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Yup ... it has both virtual and Live.
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I use stop loss. It's a very important habit to use stop loss. I trade whenever there's a chance (indicator positive). Many times I dont trade anything at all in a day. Dont force yourself to trade when theres no good trade. You will lose money that way.  sweat.gif
No it's actually -USD 5.  sweat.gif  You get money instead of paying.
Yup ... it has both virtual and Live.
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I have started mine...Haha....lets see how will it turn up....
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I receive ur email....
btw, the point positif indicate profit while negative indicate lose, right?
I haven make any study, i will make it after my spm, so sorry for my noob question.
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Short means sell?
last night i was in marketiva. i don't know what i click while buying, but it wrote there short and then i also don't know what happen and i lost 4 pips sweat.gif
usually those i buy are all long.

i played with usd/jpy. bought a lot at 11pm++. then morning wake up rclxm9.gif
bought below 116.20 and sell at 116.30 biggrin.gif
in my understanding, short means

u buy GU at 1.8953 for example.. then it goes down to 1.8900 .. u gain 53 pips.
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in my understanding, short means

u buy GU at 1.8953 for example.. then it goes down to 1.8900 .. u gain 53 pips.
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wat is the difference between buy and sell then?
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in my understanding, short means

u buy GU at 1.8953 for example.. then it goes down to 1.8900 .. u gain 53 pips.
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but someone said short = sell?
hmm.. i also pening.. cause i read from babypips.com, it said bears mean sell.

QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 04:11 PM)
wat is the difference between buy and sell then?
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buy is u use money to buy stock at what price
sell is u sell your stock on hand at what price

those are just special terms..
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but someone said short = sell?
hmm.. i also pening.. cause i read from babypips.com, it said bears mean sell.
buy is u use money to buy stock at what price
sell is u sell your stock on hand at what price

those are just special terms..
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But at 1st, i buy. Then later i try to sell. Isnt it supposed to cleap up previous i buy 1? But then it appear in another column. buy is long side then sell is short side.
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using marketiva right?
no, it won't clean up.
there is 3 or 4 tabs for u to chose and see.
the 1 your looking at probably is the trading that you had done, for example what price you buy and what price you sell, both in 2 rows.
there is a tab which shows you the price you buy and sell in single row.
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 24 2006, 04:09 PM)
in my understanding, short means

u buy GU at 1.8953 for example.. then it goes down to 1.8900 .. u gain 53 pips.
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short indeed is sell.

u open short GU at 1.8953 for example.. then it goes down(meaning bearish) to 1.8900 and you closed the position.. u gain 53 pips.

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but someone said short = sell?
hmm.. i also pening.. cause i read from babypips.com, it said bears mean sell.
i didnt say that.. some1 else whistling.gif

bulls = pairs go up

bear= pairs go down

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using marketiva right?
no, it won't clean up.
there is 3 or 4 tabs for u to chose and see.
the 1 your looking at probably is the trading that you had done, for example what price you buy and what price you sell, both in 2 rows.
there is a tab which shows you the price you buy and sell in single row.
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I opened the position table....
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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Nov 24 2006, 04:16 PM)
but someone said short = sell?
hmm.. i also pening.. cause i read from babypips.com, it said bears mean sell.
buy is u use money to buy stock at what price
sell is u sell your stock on hand at what price

those are just special terms..
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"hmm.. i also pening.. cause i read from babypips.com, it said bears mean sell."

indeed you have to sell cause the trend is downdtrend. (bearish means that the current price is going down.) so if downtrend = sell (short). if you go long(buy) you will lose pips instead of gaining them.

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GU is already 1.92 ..

gained few hundred pips for my virtual trading..
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Ops...extra 99usd in my pocket....
Quite weird...i dun even im pressing wat....
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Ops...extra 99usd in my pocket....
Quite weird...i dun even im pressing wat....
better becareful..

must keep in mind to u buy/sell and live/virtual in marketiva

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u guys dont pening2. this is confirm answer

BUY=LONG=>BULLISH
SELL=SHORT=>BEARISH

wah g/u is sky rocket high now. up to 140++ pips. but not rich coz i dun enter the market coz i late to notice it. by the way, i seldom trade on Friday. abit risky.


by they way any forexer here use the crownforex? Crownforex

The pip spread is so small on 7 major pair..only 1 pip... drool.gif

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 24 2006, 05:05 PM)
u guys dont pening2. this is confirm answer

BUY=LONG=>BULLISH
SELL=SHORT=>BEARISH

wah g/u is sky rocket high now. up to 140++ pips. but not rich coz i dun enter the market coz i late to notice it. by the way, i seldom trade on Friday. abit risky.
by they way any forexer here use the crownforex? Crownforex

The pip spread is so small on 7 major pair..only 1 pip... drool.gif
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what the diffrent between spot fx and normal one?

Crownforex use spot fx right?

I read in nogold got someone said that spot fx is illegal in malaysia.
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not sure about legal or illegal thing in fx in msia. most important thing we can get the money safely without any big issues with BNM. if using egold no problem one...

because some local bank also got illegal thing they are practising when you compare to bank in oversea. i read some where, it got some thing to do with hire purchase..
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 24 2006, 04:57 PM)
better becareful..

must keep in mind to u buy/sell and live/virtual  in marketiva
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Okok.....but i really dun noe so detailly actually, juz press....
Btw, real money can negative, right? then wat will they do( i mean marketiva)?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 05:56 PM)
Okok.....but i really dun noe so detailly actually, juz press....
Btw, real money can negative, right? then wat will they do( i mean marketiva)?
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when u got red pips..then u are on loss side..thay why u can only trade 20 -30% of ur margin..the free margin will support the -ve money.
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IF U WANT TO LOSS UR MONEY...TRADE ON FRIDAY rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


my pridiction was right...gpb/usd reach 1.93xx...

still floating at AUD/USD...-100++pips icon_question.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 24 2006, 05:16 PM)
what the diffrent between spot fx and normal one?

Crownforex use spot fx right?

I read in nogold got someone said that spot fx is illegal in malaysia.
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spot forex is we predict what will happend next...if im not mistaken la..
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 24 2006, 05:24 PM)
not sure about legal or illegal thing in fx in msia. most important thing we can get the money safely without any big issues with BNM. if using egold no problem one...

because some local bank also got illegal thing they are practising when you compare to bank in oversea. i read some where, it got some thing to do with hire purchase..
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simple explanation for short n long...

if long/buy...that mean we profit if the graf go up.

if short/sell..profit from the graf that going down..


so in forex..either the price is going up or down..we can make profit thumbup.gif..n loss also.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 08:49 PM)
simple explanation for short n long...

if long/buy...that mean we profit if the graf go up.

if short/sell..profit from the graf that going down..
so in forex..either the price is going up or down..we can make profit thumbup.gif..n loss also.. tongue.gif
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Oo.....i guess that too....coz i buy sell then i saw the graph low but im on earning side....Haha....today earn 240usd.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 09:22 PM)
Oo.....i guess that too....coz i buy sell then i saw the graph low but im on earning side....Haha....today earn 240usd.... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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hehe..weldone..keep in profit..it will motive u more..
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hehe..weldone..keep in profit..it will motive u more..
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Haha....That was juz now...now all red....need patient...Wait wait wait....
staring at the com hold day....Haha
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almost finish for this week trade ...
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 24 2006, 09:57 PM)
almost finish for this week trade ...
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market close at 5am (malaysia time)
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 10:11 PM)
market close at 5am (malaysia time)
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ops? i thought it 24 hours...juz like 7-11...
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ops? i thought it 24 hours...juz like 7-11...
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 10:11 PM)
market close at 5am (malaysia time)
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eh, i thought 6am saturday .. correct me if im wrong

and during this hours,imo its not a good time to trade
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 24 2006, 11:14 PM)
eh, i thought 6am saturday .. correct me if im wrong

and during this hours,imo its not a good time to trade
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y?
wat is the best time then?
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low pips return.. to me .. hahaha

best time monday 6am(japan open)-friday 530pm(if not mistaken)

hope other senior in this forex can help


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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 24 2006, 11:26 PM)
low pips return.. to me .. hahaha

best time monday 6am(japan open)-friday 530pm(if not mistaken)

hope other senior in this forex can help
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Yaya...agree....
btw, the guy in job there say do investment for the investor and usually bring profit. what do u guys think then?
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huh.. ur virtual left usd 900 from usd 10k ?...
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lol how long have u been holding that 2 trades

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lol how long have u been holding that 2 trades
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look at his EU he enters at 1995 and 2028 . From the daily chart i can see he open that 2 position since end of MARCH. Am i right ?
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 24 2006, 08:41 PM)
IF U WANT TO LOSS UR MONEY...TRADE ON FRIDAY  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
my pridiction was right...gpb/usd reach 1.93xx...

still floating at AUD/USD...-100++pips  icon_question.gif  tongue.gif
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Spot on, it did went to 1.93XX breaking resistance and entering a new high. My account on the other hand is now red. rclxub.gif
Ya I don't trade futures on Friday to except for economic report or other market moving event.

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Oo.....i guess that too....coz i buy sell then i saw the graph low but im on earning side....Haha....today earn 240usd.... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Good job to you to. Keep on grinding.
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 10:50 AM)
look at his EU he enters at 1995 and 2028 . From the daily chart i can see he open that 2 position since end of MARCH. Am i right ?
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Oo......great EQ there....waited so long....
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 24 2006, 03:42 AM)
How old are u ?
Many people started giving a SHORT on eu gu . It will move down for sure and i don't think it is a prefect entry right now .  Maybe we can give a short by tomorrow for eu , gu highest point . We have to see the forex calender by next week too, if there are many bad news for USD then it will continue to go higher. Just hope for the best. THUMBS UP traders
By the way i just want to do some SURVERY . How old are u guys and since u started trading .
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Many people is signalling short I am one of them. Expected the USD/EUR to test resistance and some pull back before breakout. laugh.gif Now my paper account is red. shocking.gif Mistake no protective stops. blush.gif


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yea...how long? profit a lot....haha
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QUOTE(whtrader @ Nov 25 2006, 11:05 AM)
Many people is signalling short I am one of them. Expected the USD/EUR to test resistance and some pull back before breakout.  laugh.gif Now my paper account is red.  shocking.gif Mistake no protective stops. blush.gif
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Patiently wait....Haha.......
Me too....lot of red.....
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look at his EU he enters at 1995 and 2028 . From the daily chart i can see he open that 2 position since end of MARCH. Am i right ?
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Ya your right. He's been holding for a long time. rclxms.gif
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yup....I had opened that position since the early of march...can't reallly remember already lol........yesterday I am just about to open the program(never touch that program since 6months) and i was shock to see that from 100+ p into 1000+ p....lol... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ccy1989 @ Nov 25 2006, 11:26 AM)
yup....I had opened that position since the early of march...can't reallly remember already lol........yesterday I am just about to open the program(never touch that program since 6months)  and i was shock to see that from 100+ p into 1000+ p....lol... tongue.gif
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wow.....lucky not -1000 tongue.gif
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wow.....lucky not -1000  tongue.gif
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lol...virtual only la...not live also.....so i just hentam kau kau like nobody cares tongue.gif
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lol...virtual only la...not live also.....so i just hentam kau kau like nobody cares  tongue.gif
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Haha.......too bad....
if last time u hentam live will be.... drool.gif drool.gif
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Many people is signalling short I am one of them. Expected the USD/EUR to test resistance and some pull back before breakout.  laugh.gif Now my paper account is red.  shocking.gif Mistake no protective stops. blush.gif
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If u give a SHORT on usd pairs then u must becareful , because there is a rumour that the US is doing this to make prices cheaper for christmas.
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If u give a SHORT on usd pairs then u must becareful , because there is a rumour that the US is doing this to make prices cheaper for christmas.
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so we should grab this chance then...Boom them....after do some survey....
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 11:06 AM)
Patiently wait....Haha.......
Me too....lot of red.....
better to have stoploss point

QUOTE(ccy1989 @ Nov 25 2006, 12:21 PM)
lol...virtual only la...not live also.....so i just hentam kau kau like nobody cares  tongue.gif
my advice, treat that virtual trading as using real money...


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something is not easy to pretend as using virtual to trade as live trading , when u lose u will start thinking of u are lucky coz that are just fake money. Most people win when they treat virtual and started of thinking if those are live trading and it will be great and they will ended up with burning their account .
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It seems that you are everyday online. biggrin.gif
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Yea....still student then now holiday time....
so no reason to not on9....Perhaps SPM is the only reason then....

QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 07:29 PM)
something is not easy to pretend as using virtual to trade as live trading , when u lose u will start thinking of u are lucky coz that are just fake money. Most people win when they treat virtual and started of thinking if those are live trading and it will be great and they will ended up with burning their account .
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Ops....10x for this....it let me learn something there...agree with u too thumbup.gif
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seems like getting more and more students started trading forex , im a student too rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 08:44 PM)
seems like getting more and more students started trading forex , im a student too  rclxm9.gif
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Haha....perhaps student start to have awareness bout investment know....
money money money ohmy.gif shocking.gif unsure.gif
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now is trending market...so becaful if u trade major pair...

now also end of the year...lot of FA factor effect the market...

last friday all the pair that got USD got big movement because of news abaout US treasury statistic is worst than expected... (except AUD/USD..only 50+ pips..lucky me ..loss here 180usd last friday..hehe)

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 09:17 PM)
now is trending market...so becaful if u trade major pair...

now also end of the year...lot of FA factor effect the market...

last friday all the pair that got USD got big movement because of news abaout US treasury statistic is worst than expected... (except AUD/USD..only 50+ pips..lucky me ..loss here 180usd last friday..hehe)
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i lost 90 usd....but b4 that earn 240 usd....still got some left....
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 09:20 PM)
i lost 90 usd....but b4 that earn 240 usd....still got some left....
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paper ok la my pren blush.gif

real money loss diff feeling with paper..

when u trade real money..u will know how it feels when the market is not going ur way.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

STOP LOSS is very important rolleyes.gif
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coz nowadays not easy to earn $ . As a student we got lots of free time thats why im thinking of doing some investment
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coz nowadays not easy to earn $ . As a student we got lots of free time thats why im thinking of doing some investment
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Lot of free time? study then....
later can get high pay out...haha
btw, got one ppl say that can help us do the investment, juz need capital and we can earn money, is it true?

I like shortcut sometimes biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 09:24 PM)
coz nowadays not easy to earn $ . As a student we got lots of free time thats why im thinking of doing some investment
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yea..u are right..

trading skill can give u lot of money..but need lot of sacrifice also smile.gif

still learning eliott wave.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 09:27 PM)
yea..u are right..

trading skill can give u lot of money..but need lot of sacrifice also  smile.gif

still learning eliott wave.... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Im learning too....Can i have a shortcut? Mayb i think to let the pro invest for me...Haha....But i no $$$ oso....
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 09:26 PM)
Lot of free time? study then....
later can get high pay out...haha
btw, got one ppl say that can help us do the investment, juz need capital and we can earn money, is it true?

I like shortcut sometimes biggrin.gif
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got lot of HYIP out there...find one..very risky shocking.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 09:28 PM)
got lot of HYIP out there...find one..very risky  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
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Haha....i dun 1 that 1....
I mea Forex too....but need 5k usd.... sweat.gif
no so much money....
no money no skill....
have to slowly catch up...
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 09:31 PM)
Haha....i dun 1 that 1....
I mea Forex too....but need 5k usd.... sweat.gif
no so much money....
no money no skill....
have to slowly catch up...
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aiyo my pren..u can start trade with 10usd with marketiva
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 09:32 PM)
aiyo my pren..u can start trade with 10usd with marketiva
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thought it is 5usd?
Btw, hard lar. Human like shortcut...Me the same too.
But i will learn 1st and see how then....
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eventhough marketiva give u usd 5 for free,it's hard to me to withdraw the money that i gain..form usd 5 i manage to make around uisd 80 profit..but in the end my account been suspended..
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eventhough marketiva give u usd 5 for free,it's hard to me to withdraw the money that i gain..form usd 5  i manage to make around uisd 80 profit..but in the end my account been suspended..
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suspended?
y? any reason?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 09:52 PM)
suspended?
y? any reason?
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marketiva will suspeng ur account if u sclaper trade...

i see one person make 400usd in 3month from the 5usd..he give all his trading history.

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Lot of free time? study then....
later can get high pay out...haha
btw, got one ppl say that can help us do the investment, juz need capital and we can earn money, is it true?

I like shortcut sometimes biggrin.gif
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better not to ask others to trade for u , maybe they are one of them who win alot when they trade virtual =P

QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 09:27 PM)
yea..u are right..

trading skill can give u lot of money..but need lot of sacrifice also  smile.gif

still learning eliott wave.... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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hafifee do u hav ym or msn ? we can chat about market strategy , better dont waste too much tome learn elliot wave , is not easy to predict the wave what u can do is just guess . Is better for u to learn mouteki trading and use some good indicators which u think suit u the best . We can chat more through messenger =)

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QUOTE(apis @ Nov 25 2006, 09:50 PM)
eventhough marketiva give u usd 5 for free,it's hard to me to withdraw the money that i gain..form usd 5  i manage to make around uisd 80 profit..but in the end my account been suspended..
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 09:57 PM)
better not to ask others to trade for u , maybe they are one of them who win alot when they trade virtual =P
hafifee do u hav ym or msn ? we can chat about market strategy , better dont waste too much tome learn elliot wave , is not easy to predict the wave what u can do is just guess . Is better for u to learn mouteki trading and use some good indicators which u think suit u the best . We can chat more through messenger =)
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 09:56 PM)
marketiva will suspeng ur account if u sclaper trade...

i see one person make 400usd in 3month from the 5usd..he give all his trading history.
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sclaper trade? wats that?

Btw, anyone kind enough to tell me how to learn this and that?
I plan to learn it carefully and detailly later....
I will be glad if any pro dun mind to guide me then....
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sclaper trade? wats that?

Btw, anyone kind enough to tell me how to learn this and that?
I plan to learn it carefully and detailly later....
I will be glad if any pro dun mind to guide me then....
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scalp trading means when the market is not so active then u open your position to grab few pips and close it , thats consider as scalping . Scalping is fun when u see green colour appear at your open position and u will got pissed off when u see it go opposite way.
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oo y are hafifee i think i sell u some egold before
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1.scalper trader make lot of profit by lots of trading in a day but take little pips.

2.swing trader..trading position open more than 24hours..mo maybe 1 week or 1 month...like one person got 1000+ pips..open position for 6 month..that is the example for swing trader

3. daily trader...close position on the same day
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 10:08 PM)
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 10:09 PM)
1.scalper trader make lot of profit by lots of trading in a day but take little pips.

2.swing trader..trading position open more than 24hours..mo maybe 1 week or 1 month...like one person got 1000+ pips..open position for 6 month..that is the example for swing trader

3. daily trader...close position on the same day
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Oo...then im a scalper trader then.....
It is the best since im still newbie....
SO they suspended scalper trader? Y, need luck to do this also....
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 10:14 PM)
Oo...then im a scalper trader then.....
It is the best since im still newbie....
SO they suspended scalper trader? Y, need luck to do this also....
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scalper trader is the most skillful trader FYI...
they can make prediction by looking at the graf only...but they are not gambler la
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 10:21 PM)
scalper trader is the most skillful trader FYI...
they can make prediction by looking at the graf only...but they are not gambler la
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lolx.....skillful?
Juz by luck actually, c which 1 always green then buy....after that closed it when earn a bit....after some time again go for it again...haha...if no luck sure die...
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lolx.....skillful?
Juz by luck actually, c which 1 always green then buy....after that closed it when earn a bit....after some time again go for it again...haha...if no luck sure die...
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not really consider as need LUCK , for traders u need to analyse first before u open a position
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 10:29 PM)
not really consider as need LUCK , for traders u need to analyse first before u open a position
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it is a way to invest too, y not?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 10:23 PM)
lolx.....skillful?
Juz by luck actually, c which 1 always green then buy....after that closed it when earn a bit....after some time again go for it again...haha...if no luck sure die...
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no luck la..
serius they are very skillfull..can make lot of money in one day...that why marketiva ban they account...hehe

but i heard that marketiva will ban scalper account for 2 week
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 25 2006, 10:30 PM)
Yeah, btw y forex ban that?
it is a way to invest too, y not?
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not forex la...
marketiva only ban..n maybe some other broker
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 10:34 PM)
not forex la...
marketiva only ban..n maybe some other broker
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aha....suspended or ban? it is different...
suspended for 2 weeks? then mean later oso can take out the money? I mean if use live to scalp.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 10:20 PM)
let's trade with a demo account with 50k virtual $ using MT4 see who can earn the most =X  hahaha
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aiyo..u otai la.. im newbie..
kenot fight ur skill notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 25 2006, 10:38 PM)
aiyo..u otai la.. im newbie..
kenot fight ur skill  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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so who is the elder here?
Im the noobest....

Noobest and Newbie report in.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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im just a newbie tongue.gif dont compare me with some senior traders . Just 20 years old dont expect much on me hehe
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 10:41 PM)
im just a newbie  tongue.gif  dont compare me with some senior traders . Just 20 years old dont expect much on me hehe
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Me...2 days i think tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 08:44 PM)
seems like getting more and more students started trading forex , im a student too  rclxm9.gif
count me in rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 09:57 PM)
better not to ask others to trade for u , maybe they are one of them who win alot when they trade virtual =P
hafifee do u hav ym or msn ? we can chat about market strategy , better dont waste too much tome learn elliot wave , is not easy to predict the wave what u can do is just guess . Is better for u to learn mouteki trading and use some good indicators which u think suit u the best . We can chat more through messenger =)
mouteki?? can teach me ... blush.gif

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add me
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can i add u too?



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I receive ur email....
btw, the point positif indicate profit while negative indicate lose, right?
I haven make any study, i will make it after my spm, so sorry for my noob question.
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Yup ... red means loss, green means profits.

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u guys dont pening2. this is confirm answer

BUY=LONG=>BULLISH
SELL=SHORT=>BEARISH

wah g/u is sky rocket high now. up to 140++ pips. but not rich coz i dun enter the market coz i late to notice it. by the way, i seldom trade on Friday. abit risky.
by they way any forexer here use the crownforex? Crownforex

The pip spread is so small on 7 major pair..only 1 pip... drool.gif
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ops? i thought it 24 hours...juz like 7-11...
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QUOTE(apis @ Nov 25 2006, 09:50 PM)
eventhough marketiva give u usd 5 for free,it's hard to me to withdraw the money that i gain..form usd 5  i manage to make around uisd 80 profit..but in the end my account been suspended..
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Nice record.

This post has been edited by luqmanz: Nov 25 2006, 10:50 PM
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Yup ... red means loss, green means profits.
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have to make my homework later....Haha
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Yaya..realise that oso....
have to make my homework later....Haha
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how to prove that u are leaning smart ? what i know is learn from mistake hehe
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how to prove that u are leaning smart ? what i know is learn from mistake  hehe
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Haha,,,i dun say i learn smart....
I mean we have to learn smart, like hmm learn from mistake tongue.gif
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Haha,,,i dun say i learn smart....
I mean we have to learn smart, like hmm learn from mistake  tongue.gif
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haha just say for fun , anyhow the more experience u gain is the best everyone will burn up their acc few times before they become a successful trader , just consider that as a mistake and dont repeat it again
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haha just say for fun , anyhow the more experience u gain is the best everyone will burn up their acc few times before they become a successful trader , just consider that as a mistake and dont repeat it again
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Ok...thanks for the advice...appreciate from heart....
btw, any strategy or discussion? Go to advanced talk...Haha...Then i can steal the knowledge from u guys....
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Ok...thanks for the advice...appreciate from heart....
btw, any strategy or discussion? Go to advanced talk...Haha...Then i can steal the knowledge from u guys....
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very simple knowledge , just use 1min chart then buy or sell a particular position follow the chart rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 25 2006, 11:37 PM)
very simple knowledge , just use 1min chart then buy or sell a particular position follow the chart  rolleyes.gif
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Thats the knowledge of scalper traders biggrin.gif
How bout the knowledge bout swing traders? icon_idea.gif
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come to forexFactory.com

Mouteki method: http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/forumdisplay.php?f=75

y not move Malaysian talk to above forum n start a new thread?
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QUOTE(Morning_Star @ Nov 26 2006, 06:42 AM)
come to forexFactory.com

Mouteki method: http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/forumdisplay.php?f=75

y not move Malaysian talk to above forum n start a new thread?
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Malaysian talk can done here... smile.gif
y not? cool.gif
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Attached is the .xls that I used to manage the money and calculate the appropriate units to buy.

When I enter the trade, I risk no more than 2% of my cash.
My stop loss is 50 pips (or determined by closest support/resistance).
Given this infos, I calculate how much units to purchase.
This way, I wont lose more than 2% of my cash if the trade hit stop loss.

Let me know if there's any prob with it. Cheers.

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Attached File  Forex_Calculator_1.1.zip ( 6.99k ) Number of downloads: 87
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 26 2006, 04:01 PM)
Attached is the .xls that I used to manage the money and calculate the appropriate units to buy.

When I enter the trade, I risk no more than 2% of my cash.
My stop loss is 50 pips (or determined by closest support/resistance).
Given this infos, I calculate how much units to purchase.
This way, I wont lose more than 2% of my cash if the trade hit stop loss.

Let me know if there's any prob with it. Cheers.
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hmmm... 2% from the capital, definitely what babypips says biggrin.gif

but mostly i see people use 10 - 20%.
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 26 2006, 04:01 PM)
Attached is the .xls that I used to manage the money and calculate the appropriate units to buy.

When I enter the trade, I risk no more than 2% of my cash.
My stop loss is 50 pips (or determined by closest support/resistance).
Given this infos, I calculate how much units to purchase.
This way, I wont lose more than 2% of my cash if the trade hit stop loss.

Let me know if there's any prob with it. Cheers.
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hey, i cant open ur files. Corrupted.....
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The market opened and after few hours, all my lot earn around 80pips, juz got few lost, haha. Earn 900usd this time. Btw, i think i juz lucky, not using real knowledge. Have to study hard, huh...
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not bad =) keep it up
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 02:37 PM)
not bad =) keep it up
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Haha....lucky though....
Sure, will try learn more and more...
So all pro, dun hesitate teach me ya....
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wanted to help u , but im too lousy in forex . Just a beginner sad.gif
maybe im the one who need your help icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 02:49 PM)
wanted to help u , but im too lousy in forex . Just a beginner  sad.gif
maybe im the one who need your help  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Haha...nolar, u more experience than me....
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 26 2006, 08:10 PM)
hey, i cant open ur files. Corrupted.....
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Try downloading again. Mine seems ok though.

QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 27 2006, 02:22 PM)
The market opened and after few hours, all my lot earn around 80pips, juz got few lost, haha. Earn 900usd this time. Btw, i think i juz lucky, not using real knowledge. Have to study hard, huh...
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Are u using any indicator or just using ur luck buying/selling based on the candlestick?

If just luck, yes your are veru lucky my fren notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 03:17 PM)
Try downloading again. Mine seems ok though.
Are u using any indicator or just using ur luck buying/selling based on the candlestick?

If just luck, yes your are veru lucky my fren  notworthy.gif
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i remember the first month of trading...everything seem to be on my side..always make green pips... laugh.gif
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yup because of that they will start thinking that FOREX is easy and trying to enter a position with higher amount and 90% of beginners will ended with burning up their account
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Mouteki trading technique ...try it today.. rclxm9.gif not bad a drool.gif rclxm9.gif

[attachmentid=159697]


enter position buy@ 223.83..first candle that break the trendline..

TP @ 225.52 = 169 pips

on the way to reach the target..90+ pips movement after 8 hours thumbup.gif

for more information n download material visit ..

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/showthread.php?t=8464
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 03:17 PM)
Try downloading again. Mine seems ok though.
Are u using any indicator or just using ur luck buying/selling based on the candlestick?

If just luck, yes your are veru lucky my fren  notworthy.gif
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Nope, use nothing. Really very lucky indeed. No woory, i will still look carefully.
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What brokers you guys using?
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 04:54 PM)
Mouteki trading technique ...try it today.. rclxm9.gif not bad a  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif

[attachmentid=159697]
enter position buy@ 223.83..first candle that break the trendline..

TP @ 225.52 = 169 pips

on the way to reach the target..90+ pips movement after 8 hours  thumbup.gif

for more information n download material visit ..

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/showthread.php?t=8464
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do you use any filter?

was reading the mouteki long ago, they say need to filter certain thing in order to maximize profit i think.

do post your future result again rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 06:23 PM)
do you use any filter?

was reading the mouteki long ago, they say need to filter certain thing in order to maximize profit i think.

do post your future result again  rclxms.gif
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use stoch, rsi n macd as filter..hehe..gune yg sifu kite ajar sudah... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 06:30 PM)
use stoch, rsi n macd as filter..hehe..gune yg sifu kite ajar sudah...  rclxm9.gif
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lepas ni ko belajar lak wolfe waves. aku tgh try tu dulu baru test mouteki.

wolfe waves just tgk barchart je, takyah pakai apa-2 filter and works kat semua tf. power siot.

(ada wolfewaves indi gak, kira dia plot ww ni kat barchart ko.)


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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 06:37 PM)
lepas ni ko belajar lak wolfe waves. aku tgh try tu dulu baru test mouteki.

wolfe waves just tgk barchart je, takyah pakai apa-2 filter and works kat semua tf. power siot.

(ada wolfewaves indi gak, kira dia plot ww ni kat barchart ko.)
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aku ada gak baca pasal ww tu..zigzag abc...
sikit2 lama2 jadi bukit EW kasik abis dulu.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(uniglo @ Nov 27 2006, 06:20 PM)
What brokers you guys using?
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me using marketiva n real trader...demo use NF
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 06:40 PM)
aku ada gak baca pasal ww tu..zigzag abc...
sikit2 lama2 jadi bukit EW kasik abis dulu.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 06:41 PM)
me using marketiva n real trader...demo use NF
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Ic cool. If you need any help on NF, just PM me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uniglo @ Nov 27 2006, 06:47 PM)
Ic cool. If you need any help on NF, just PM me tongue.gif
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What kind of help u offer? tongue.gif
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What kind of help u offer?  tongue.gif
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Anything related to NF except giving tips on forex
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QUOTE(uniglo @ Nov 27 2006, 06:47 PM)
Ic cool. If you need any help on NF, just PM me tongue.gif
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not using NF because still new n trade only little margin sad.gif

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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 06:46 PM)
EW tu nak master susah woo. Expert EW punya org pun takde kata sepakat bila cari ew kat charts  doh.gif
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yeah...aku pon pening pale..baru belajar sikit..hehe..tp kene bertahan n berusaha gigih kalo nak berjaya flex.gif
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yeah...aku pon pening pale..baru belajar sikit..hehe..tp kene bertahan n berusaha gigih kalo nak berjaya  flex.gif
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Ya, setuju.
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wolfe waves <--- free ke?
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 04:54 PM)
Mouteki trading technique ...try it today.. rclxm9.gif not bad a  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif

enter position buy@ 223.83..first candle that break the trendline..

TP @ 225.52 = 169 pips

on the way to reach the target..90+ pips movement after 8 hours  thumbup.gif
when to enter market???
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lol dont use EW it is not so accurate , u just can guess which wave u wan to use. EW is good for index . Wolf wave is much more accurate just do your research dont blindly follow others
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 04:54 PM)
Mouteki trading technique ...try it today.. rclxm9.gif not bad a  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif

[attachmentid=159697]
enter position buy@ 223.83..first candle that break the trendline..

TP @ 225.52 = 169 pips

on the way to reach the target..90+ pips movement after 8 hours  thumbup.gif

for more information n download material visit ..

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/showthread.php?t=8464
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I told u before , its profitable right ? You owe me a meal ! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 27 2006, 07:20 PM)
wolfe waves <--- free ke?
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actually you have to pay 3000usd for the lesson shocking.gif

but if you google enough you will find free resource. (ebook, website and indicator).

Just found 2 WW on USDCHF m5 rclxms.gif

note that i just learn this myself yesterday. Need to train my eyes on the chart.

But seriously this WW i think is much better than relying on the indicator.
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ya, nowadays there are sooooooooo many type of indicators . Most of the indicator are useless just go and do some research and backtesting and find yourself suitable one.
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 27 2006, 07:23 PM)
when to enter market???
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first candle or bar that broke the trendline
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 07:33 PM)
actually you have to pay 3000usd for the lesson  shocking.gif

but if you google enough you will find free resource. (ebook, website and indicator).

Just found 2 WW on USDCHF m5  rclxms.gif

note that i just learn this myself yesterday. Need to train my eyes on the chart.

But seriously this WW i think is much better than relying on the indicator.
yeah.. googled for that usd 3k .. thats y i asked about that indic free or not.

now googling again for free resources
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 07:25 PM)
I told u before , its profitable right ? You owe me a meal !  thumbup.gif
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yea..thank my friend..
but u still have to teach me more detail about this method tomorrow.. tongue.gif

maybe we can make some YM confrence n have other guys to join us to discuss about this method...ok? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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yeah.. googled for that usd 3k .. thats y i asked about that indic free or not.

now googling again for free resources
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yea..thank my friend..
but u still have to teach me more detail about this method tomorrow.. tongue.gif

maybe we can make some YM confrence n have other guys to join us to discuss about this method...ok?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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i will just slightly go through with u , tomorrow so many news to trade cry.gif and this week the market goes crazy , very good for scalping blush.gif
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 27 2006, 07:43 PM)
yeah.. googled for that usd 3k .. thats y i asked about that indic free or not.

now googling again for free resources
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pm me if you want my resource. ill email to you.

QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 07:44 PM)
yea..thank my friend..
but u still have to teach me more detail about this method tomorrow..

maybe we can make some YM confrence n have other guys to join us to discuss about this method...ok?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Add me also lar.


Damn, i just found like 3 more WW on other chart for today. but i miss my open position.
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pm me if you want my resource. ill email to you.
Add me also lar.
Damn, i just found like 3 more WW on other chart for today. but i miss my open position.
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Quincy , can send me the resource too ? I wan to go through that also drool.gif
i will pm you for my email address blush.gif
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i will just slightly go through with u , tomorrow so many news to trade  cry.gif  and this week the market goes crazy , very good for scalping  blush.gif
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Do you trade the news also? if so teach me la tongue.gif
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Arghhh my line is sooo lagging right now. Even want to browse lowyat also lag.
For those asking the WW, ill send them ASAP when my line ok. Gonna restart the modem after come back from dinner.

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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 07:47 PM)
pm me if you want my resource. ill email to you.
Add me also lar.
Damn, i just found like 3 more WW on other chart for today. but i miss my open position.
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no hidden cost?? blush.gif

send 2 qazx_118@yahoo.com


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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 07:55 PM)
Arghhh my line is sooo lagging right now. Even want to browse lowyat also lag.
For those asking the WW, ill send them ASAP when my line ok. Gonna restart the modem after come back from dinner.

Out eating tongue.gif
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adus.. im on private isp .. laggy than most of u here

QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 08:03 PM)
lol it cost USD 3k and he only charge you with RM 3k  thats a great offer haha
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shocking.gif ...
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 27 2006, 08:00 PM)
no hidden cost??  blush.gif

send 2    qazx_118@yahoo.com
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Its free, since im getting this free also

QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 08:03 PM)
lol it cost USD 3k and he only charge you with RM 3k  thats a great offer haha
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Owh damn, should ask rm3000 from you before i send the email. Oh well.

QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 27 2006, 08:06 PM)
adus.. im on private isp .. laggy than most of u here
  shocking.gif  ...
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Wait aa, i go dinner first. later send to you

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Its free, since im getting this free also
Owh damn, should ask rm3000 from you before i send the email. Oh well.
Wait aa, i go dinner first. later send to you
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nope u shouldnt ask $ from me coz i gave u my idea and let u earn from others , it should be FREE to me
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ive already send the WW, check your email guys.
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found WW indi ... but there's too many of them

will try it out 2morow since there's a lot of news based on forexfactory calender

btw thanx Quincy 4 d files


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ive already send the WW, check your email guys.
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received , thanks
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QUOTE(hunt17 @ Nov 27 2006, 09:08 PM)
found WW  indi ... but there's too many of them

will try it out 2morow since there's a lot of news based on forexfactory calender

btw thanx Quincy 4 d files
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they say master yourself first without using any indicator, since the indi sometimes misses the WW.
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 09:15 PM)
they say master yourself first without using any indicator, since the indi sometimes misses the WW.
what do u mean by "master yourself first" ??

without indi, i think most of us will lost looking at the chart itself...



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what do u mean by "master yourself first" ??

without indi, i think most of us will lost looking at the chart itself...
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The WW is like Mouteki, which mean that you learn by looking at the chart. You didnt need any indicator at all to use this system. Even the 3000usd course(official WW) also dont use any indi.

The indicator was made by thirdparty and the coding are not 100% follow the WW rules.

You can read more on ForexFactory.

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 27 2006, 09:21 PM)
woi..aku nak gak.. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

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dah hantar smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 09:26 PM)
dah hantar  smile.gif
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hehe..terima kasih...
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 09:27 PM)
Jual hafifee , dia kaya  drool.gif
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duit virtual ada la..nak berapa 3kusd...50k pon boleh..tp virtual la tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 09:27 PM)
Jual hafifee , dia kaya  drool.gif
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Jual dia? biggrin.gif

Nah... Later he dont want to teach me Mouteki.
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 09:27 PM)
Jual hafifee , dia kaya  drool.gif
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xsempat daa....if not sure can charge rm 3k icon_idea.gif

btw, mouteki n WW is easy to read by looking at the chart like u said


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xsempat daa....if not sure can charge rm 3k  icon_idea.gif

btw, mouteki n WW is easy to read by looking at the chart like u said
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not really , when u see from the chart everything is easy. When comes to analyse the market yourself u will start facing all kinds of problem smile.gif
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Jual dia?  biggrin.gif

Nah... Later he dont want to teach me Mouteki.
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haha becareful when u type out , else he wont teach us about Mouteki cry.gif
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my officemate is a pro trader with exp in forex 5 years. i'm still learning from him. he was hired for fxgold and pspro for forex trading for a short period of time, he's brother works as a proton engineer doing part time trading for Public Bank. he doesnt use any sophisticated indicator like most newbies like us. will share here later...
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 27 2006, 10:33 PM)
my officemate is a pro trader with exp in forex 5 years. i'm still learning from him. he was hired for fxgold and pspro for forex trading for a short period of time, he's brother works as a proton engineer doing part time trading for Public Bank. he doesnt use any sophisticated indicator like most newbies like us. will share here later...
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Nice drool.gif . Thanks for sharing thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 27 2006, 10:33 PM)
my officemate is a pro trader with exp in forex 5 years. i'm still learning from him. he was hired for fxgold and pspro for forex trading for a short period of time, he's brother works as a proton engineer doing part time trading for Public Bank. he doesnt use any sophisticated indicator like most newbies like us. will share here later...
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ic but fxgold losing lots of money in 3 months time right ? profitswinger lasted longer than fxgold and im sure your friend is a strong trader

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 27 2006, 10:33 PM)
my officemate is a pro trader with exp in forex 5 years. i'm still learning from him. he was hired for fxgold and pspro for forex trading for a short period of time, he's brother works as a proton engineer doing part time trading for Public Bank. he doesnt use any sophisticated indicator like most newbies like us. will share here later...
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will wait for ur shre experience here drool.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 27 2006, 10:33 PM)
my officemate is a pro trader with exp in forex 5 years. i'm still learning from him. he was hired for fxgold and pspro for forex trading for a short period of time, he's brother works as a proton engineer doing part time trading for Public Bank. he doesnt use any sophisticated indicator like most newbies like us. will share here later...
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profitswinger n psp owner is my friend smile.gif eddiesl..
i start to know forex from him..
great scalper trader with high skill rclxm9.gif n one of his teacher is debtfreedom.. my sifu icon_rolleyes.gif icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 27 2006, 09:54 PM)
haha becareful when u type out , else he wont teach us about Mouteki  cry.gif
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aiyo..u teach la..
u more exprience
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currently using EMA 5,13,62 LMA 96,192 as a supporting indicator for WSS 9.4. sometimes using plain fibo+trendline (High/Low) only to predict the chart. what's yours? still developing skills here smile.gif


Plain fibo+trendline. what do you think? WSS says uptrend (STRONG)

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We got many high impact news this week. Gonna see a lot of action. smile.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 27 2006, 10:33 PM)
my officemate is a pro trader with exp in forex 5 years. i'm still learning from him. he was hired for fxgold and pspro for forex trading for a short period of time, he's brother works as a proton engineer doing part time trading for Public Bank. he doesnt use any sophisticated indicator like most newbies like us. will share here later...
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Wow nice. Trading for the banks. Public Bank hire part-timer for forex trading ?
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 27 2006, 09:23 PM)
The WW is like Mouteki, which mean that you learn by looking at the chart. You didnt need any indicator at all to use this system. Even the 3000usd course(official WW) also dont use any indi.

The indicator was made by thirdparty and the coding are not 100% follow the WW rules.

You can read more on ForexFactory.
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Woot. I want WW too ... can email me ?

luqman_i@yahoo.com
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 28 2006, 10:10 AM)
Woot. I want WW too ... can email me ?

luqman_i@yahoo.com
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Already send.

for better understanding go read at here:
http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/sho...94&page=1&pp=15

some of the info on that forum does not have in the document that i gave u all. And the most important for me is the screenshot that they posted.
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 28 2006, 10:30 AM)
Already send.

for better understanding go read at here:
http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/sho...94&page=1&pp=15

some of the info on that forum does not have in the document that i gave u all. And the most important for me is the screenshot that they posted.
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hi bro, aku nak satu, thanks!

pembunuh(at)gmail.com
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send it to eddyann@gmail.com.. i want it too
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QUOTE(modD @ Nov 28 2006, 11:33 AM)
hi bro, aku nak satu, thanks!

pembunuh(at)gmail.com
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 28 2006, 11:48 AM)
send it to eddyann@gmail.com.. i want it too
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Done.

if you guys found WW on the charts, post them up smile.gif

I already found 1 on the GU dont know correct or not.

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waiting for the price to go to the grey area then place sell order. The grey area is called the sweet spot.(in the original manual have this info)



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for those who're using marketive:

1. about the overnight interest, how they calculate the day? 24 hours after u placed the premium? or following the forex market time? but since forex is 24 hour thingy, wat time they considered as 1 day?

2. are most of us with small modal better trade intraday to avoid interest? wat're ur stand?
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Looks convinving Quincy ... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 28 2006, 12:42 PM)
for those who're using marketive:

1. about the overnight interest, how they calculate the day? 24 hours after u placed the premium? or following the forex market time? but since forex is 24 hour thingy, wat time they considered as 1 day?

2. are most of us with small modal better trade intraday to avoid interest? wat're ur stand?
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1) Marketiva has zero overnight interest at this time.
2) Trade anyway you like. Zero interest thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 28 2006, 12:04 PM)
Done.

if you guys found WW on the charts, post them up  smile.gif

I already found 1 on the GU dont know correct or not.

user posted image

waiting for the price to go to the grey area then place sell order. The grey area is called the sweet spot.(in the original manual have this info)
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Wow this wolfe wave sure looks promising.
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dont expect too much, not 100% accurate and dont just rely on a indicator
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Thanks Quincy... learning now!
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 28 2006, 12:42 PM)
for those who're using marketive:

1. about the overnight interest, how they calculate the day? 24 hours after u placed the premium? or following the forex market time? but since forex is 24 hour thingy, wat time they considered as 1 day?

2. are most of us with small modal better trade intraday to avoid interest? wat're ur stand?
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it's call swap. Northfinance also got swap free (but u need to request) smile.gif


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Mouteki result.. thumbup.gif

[attachmentid=160009]

[attachmentid=160010]


enter position yesterday(monday 27.11)

buy@ 223.83..first candle that break the trendline..

TP @ 225.52 = 169 pips ---> Target achieve today (28.11) rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

microlot : 16++usd
minilot : 190++usd
full lot : 1900++ usd

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 28 2006, 04:37 PM)
Mouteki result.. thumbup.gif

[attachmentid=160009]

[attachmentid=160010]
enter position yesterday(monday 27.11)

buy@ 223.83..first candle that break the trendline..

TP @ 225.52 = 169 pips ---> Target achieve today (28.11) rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Nice thumbup.gif

btw that trade demo or real? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 28 2006, 04:40 PM)
Nice  thumbup.gif

btw that trade demo or real?  biggrin.gif
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real..trade sikit sikit smile.gif
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can post me the template for mouteki and any file supporting it (manual)
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What is the rate of trading for it to be considered as scalping? buy & sell within 1 minute? less?
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if not mistaken using longer time frame 4 hours and above
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real..trade sikit sikit  smile.gif
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Mayb to u sikit we banyak tongue.gif
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huaarghh still looking how to determine the 1st and 2nd trendline in mouteki, can someone enlighten me please.
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 28 2006, 06:55 PM)
huaarghh still looking how to determine the 1st and 2nd trendline in mouteki, can someone enlighten me please.
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here u go

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/showthread.php?t=8464

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QUOTE(modD @ Nov 28 2006, 05:43 PM)
What is the rate of trading for it to be considered as scalping? buy & sell within 1 minute? less?
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nope..u trade more than 10 time a day..
and only take little pips on every position..not the quantity of pips that count but the value of the pips is the matter.for example 1pips = >10usd
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Updated on WW
do take note of this.

taken here: http://www.forexfactory.com/forexforum/sho...4&page=10&pp=15

by clam61
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http://www.chart.nu/wolfewave.htm

beware, this page above, linda raschke and the webpage on investopedia are all WRONG

you have been mislead and i believe this is the reason your above chart is incorrect.

wolfe waves are ascending or descending wedges. you have drawn a symmetrical triangle, so this doesnt qualify as a wolfe wave.

those other pages have wolfe waves as broadening wedges or megaphones. these are technically not wolfe waves.

on linda rashkes page she also talks about point 4 having to be above point 1. nowhere in the wolfe manual does it mention this requirement.
the document i send was from linda rashkes ebook.

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so which one is genuine and the correct one?
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what clam61 said is the correct one, because he paid for the WW 3000USD courses.

And if you read the ForexFactory forum link i gave, you will know which is the true WW which is exactly what clam61 said.

what Linda wrote was only a review and a bit of her own understanding.

If you looked at wolfewaves official website, He (Bill or Brian Wolfe, i forgot) did state that some of the WW that he found people wrote/post on forums, websites or articles was not 100% WW.


Right now im on page 12/36 (on FF forum)..... 24 more pages to go sad.gif

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today payout: mouteki tech

[attachmentid=160178]

buy @ 2.3409
TP @ 2.3471 HIT!!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

pips = 2.3409 - 2.3471 = 62pips thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 28 2006, 08:35 PM)
today payout: mouteki tech

[attachmentid=160178]

buy @ 2.3409
TP @ 2.3471 HIT!!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

pips = 2.3409 - 2.3471 = 62pips  thumbup.gif
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Perghhh rclxms.gif rclxms.gif untung ko ye

oit psal gi hitamkan profit tu?

ni mesti kaya gilo ni drool.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Nov 28 2006, 08:56 PM)
Perghhh  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  untung ko ye

oit psal gi hitamkan profit tu?

ni mesti kaya gilo ni  drool.gif
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takde la.. shocking.gif
langkah2 keselamatan.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 28 2006, 08:35 PM)
today payout: mouteki tech

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buy @ 2.3409
TP @ 2.3471 HIT!!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

pips = 2.3409 - 2.3471 = 62pips  thumbup.gif
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i'm still looking the correct setting for mouteki setup. is it optimal ONLY 4H timeframe or any certain pair? is it optimal on sideway trend? coz testing it on GU i got rclxub.gif .

to determine the 1st and 2nd point is it correct like this one..Still learning here the new technic. icon_rolleyes.gif i put the support 2 LEFT and 2 RIGHT is not the lowest/highest the support/resistance point

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 28 2006, 10:14 PM)
i'm still looking the correct setting for mouteki setup. is it optimal ONLY 4H timeframe or any certain pair? is it optimal on sideway trend? coz testing it on GU i got  rclxub.gif .

to determine the 1st and 2nd point is it correct like this one..Still learning here the new technic. icon_rolleyes.gif i put the support 2 LEFT and 2 RIGHT is not the lowest/highest the support/resistance point

user posted image
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major pair right now is trending market... sweat.gif
not suitabe to use this tech...i use on cross pair only,,,next year only i plan to apply on major pair..

IMHO,
ragging market is the best if u want to use this tech smile.gif
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one more thing....

this tech kenot be use alone...must have other indicator that u know hot to use as filter
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ok, for cross pair huh? so is it correct my settings for the 1st and 2nd point setup. i just confuse abit with this, other than that it's ok understood already
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 28 2006, 11:04 PM)
ok, for cross pair huh? so is it correct my settings for the 1st and 2nd point setup. i just confuse abit with this, other than that it's ok understood already
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i only take the first n 2nd higest point...see the power point..dunno if i get it wrong..
but i also base on my filter n other TA first.....i use mouteki for safe entrance...
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yesh , oversleep rclxms.gif and forgotten to wake up to trade for the news. No big deal , at least i earn 5x pips from GU blush.gif
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 29 2006, 12:14 AM)
yesh , oversleep  rclxms.gif  and forgotten to wake up to trade for the news. No big deal , at least i earn 5x pips from GU  blush.gif
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hehe...last night news i got sikit sikit pips. laugh.gif
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i started to gain profit by trading according to the daily chart. all i need is patient. this morning i woke up i got 91 pips to GU.

screw 5 minutes or 15 minutes chart. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 29 2006, 08:51 AM)
i started to gain profit by trading according to the daily chart. all i need is patient. this morning i woke up i got 91 pips to GU.

screw 5 minutes or 15 minutes chart. tongue.gif
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not really , 1min 5 min 15min chart also will give you signals if you know how to read through the chart. Chart give signals , traders find signals from chart , not buying signals from others
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 29 2006, 08:51 AM)
i started to gain profit by trading according to the daily chart. all i need is patient. this morning i woke up i got 91 pips to GU.

screw 5 minutes or 15 minutes chart. tongue.gif
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all tf u can make profit..depend on what kind of trader u are..
for me...
15m target 20pips
30m target 30 pips
1h 40 pips..
>4h more than 75 pips per trade.
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 29 2006, 09:34 AM)
not really , 1min 5 min 15min chart also will give you signals if you know how to read through the chart. Chart give signals , traders find signals from chart , not buying signals from others
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makan dalam punye ayat " not buying signals from others".. blink.gif

agree with u...
base on ur own trust will make u become elite trader icon_rolleyes.gif

today order..
EJ short @ 152.79
GJ short @ 226.40

p/s- all my decision is 110% Technical Analysis. Fundamental issue can effect this decision and we will not responsible for any losses. smile.gif

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 29 2006, 10:14 AM)
makan dalam punye ayat " not buying signals from others"..  blink.gif

agree with u...
base on ur own trust will make u become elite trader  icon_rolleyes.gif

today order..
EJ short @ 152.79
GJ short @ 226.40

p/s- all my decision is 110% Technical Analysis. Fundamental issue can effect this decision and we will not responsible for any losses.  smile.gif
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dah pro ni , dah pandai guna TA dengan FA ... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 29 2006, 10:14 AM)
makan dalam punye ayat " not buying signals from others"..  blink.gif

agree with u...
base on ur own trust will make u become elite trader  icon_rolleyes.gif

today order..
EJ short @ 152.79
GJ short @ 226.40

p/s- all my decision is 110% Technical Analysis. Fundamental issue can effect this decision and we will not responsible for any losses.  smile.gif
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so ur combining some basic indicator together with the mouteki right? still practicing, coz it's so simple to use icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 29 2006, 10:36 AM)
so ur combining some basic indicator together with the mouteki right? still practicing, coz it's so simple to use icon_rolleyes.gif
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i do analysis using trendline support by some wma, rsi, macd n stoch.
mouteki i use to enter market ..clean entrance..
but u will lose some pips if u wait for mouteki signal..but ok la..as long as enter safe position. icon_rolleyes.gif
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wooh impressive GU movements ....
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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Nov 29 2006, 10:23 AM)
dah pro ni , dah pandai guna TA dengan FA  ... thumbup.gif
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mana ada..still newbie tengah belajar dari pengalaman smile.gif

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Nov 29 2006, 02:25 PM)
wooh impressive GU movements ....
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GU gila sekarang blink.gif
all major pair is going crazy...because end of year..


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I have been watching EURO/USD jumping from 1.24 to 1.31,thats 700 pips jump...sheet sleep.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(billytong @ Nov 29 2006, 04:18 PM)
I have been watching EURO/USD jumping from 1.24 to 1.31,thats 700 pips jump...sheet sleep.gif cry.gif
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hehe..yea..one forumer here post his open position that open for 6 month...1000+ pips for EUR/USD.. drool.gif
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i wonder if GU hit 2.000 this year? those NFP (next friday) able to strengthen the dollar ka?
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 29 2006, 05:05 PM)
hehe..yea..one forumer here post his open position that open for 6 month...1000+ pips for EUR/USD..  drool.gif
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1000+ pips real or virtual? that is diff u know. brows.gif
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QUOTE(billytong @ Nov 29 2006, 05:55 PM)
1000+ pips real or virtual? that is diff u know.  brows.gif
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virtual..i know la the diff if using real or paper smile.gif

but imagine if that is real postion drool.gif


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QUOTE(eddyann @ Nov 29 2006, 05:51 PM)
i wonder if GU hit 2.000 this year? those NFP (next friday) able to strengthen the dollar ka?
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IMHO,
gu maybe going down after the krismas.. shocking.gif
need very strong news to bring down gu icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Nov 29 2006, 06:12 PM)
IMHO,
gu maybe going down after the krismas.. shocking.gif
need very strong news to bring down gu  icon_question.gif
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i sense that GU will be dropping around 10th that time, so i buy short for it.
Waiting, waiting biggrin.gif
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will the NFP strong enough to bring down that GU next week?
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hay guys did u know this site,
come on try this .
its free.
also they will give u usd 5 for
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click this banner.

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QUOTE(szeto @ Dec 1 2006, 12:27 PM)
hay guys did u know this site,
come on try this .
its free.
also they will give u usd 5 for
you to start trading right after you
sing up.

click this banner.

<a href="http://www.marketiva.com/?gid=8686" target="marketiva">
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we already knew this....check up a few post earlier...
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going back to university for new sem... sad.gif
will miss the scalping moment cry.gif
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QUOTE(szeto @ Dec 1 2006, 12:27 PM)
hay guys did u know this site,
come on try this .
its free.
also they will give u usd 5 for
you to start trading right after you
sing up.

click this banner.

<a href="http://www.marketiva.com/?gid=8686" target="marketiva">
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where the banner shocking.gif

hehe..
marketiva is like a "platform university" to me...trade with small amount of money...
after grade..use other broker..
still trade using marketiva because got live chat..can ask question there thumbup.gif
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congratulation , u need to study now ! no time for FOREX hahahaha, give me your account and i will doubler your account in first week and make your account burn in second week =D
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Dec 2 2006, 11:56 AM)
going back to university for new sem... sad.gif
will miss the scalping moment  cry.gif
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Haha study study. Scalp after class icon_rolleyes.gif icon_idea.gif . But remember to study. laugh.gif blush.gif Are you using metatrader backtesting?


QUOTE(Minimayo @ Dec 2 2006, 01:36 PM)
congratulation , u need to study now ! no time for FOREX hahahaha, give me your account and i will doubler your account in first week and make your account burn in second week =D
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Wah double account in first week. After first week I wire all out. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 29 2006, 08:46 PM)
i sense that GU will be dropping around 10th that time, so i buy short for it.
Waiting, waiting  biggrin.gif
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How're you doing? My account on marketiva is red red and red. Haha laugh.gif

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Potential Wolf Wave detected in AUD/USD 1H charts
Let's see what's going to happen tomorow rolleyes.gif



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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 3 2006, 11:29 AM)
Potential Wolf Wave detected in AUD/USD 1H charts
Let's see what's going to happen tomorow  rolleyes.gif
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Nice 1. I already got two continuous WW on AU on m5 chart on last friday. I get like 11 pips for each waves so total 22 pips. I know its not that much but considering smaller timeframe and i entered late on the first ww and exited early on second ww sad.gif .

Attached is two ss. 1 of it is the zoom in of the WWs

blue line = 1st wave.
red line = 2nd wave.

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QUOTE(whtrader @ Dec 3 2006, 02:06 AM)
How're you doing? My account on marketiva is red red and red. Haha laugh.gif
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mine was red too....
red here red there...
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Nice 1. I already got two continuous WW on AU on m5 chart on last friday. I get like 11 pips for each waves so total 22 pips.  I know its not that much but considering smaller timeframe and i entered late on the first ww and exited early on second ww  sad.gif  .

Attached is two ss. 1 of it is the zoom in of the WWs

blue line = 1st wave.
red line = 2nd wave.
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Woot ... 22 pips is not bad at all. It's 5 min timeframe ...

To anyone interested,
Below.. I attached my Malay forex trading tutorial for beginners who got lost in the middle of various popular indicators. This is one of my fav method and it has no indicator. Just candlesticks and trendlines.
Hope it can be useful to anyone out there.

This tutorial is just about trading. No guide on installing Marketiva/Metatrader.




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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 3 2006, 02:54 PM)
Woot ... 22 pips is not bad at all. It's 5 min timeframe ...

To anyone interested,
Below.. I attached my Malay forex trading tutorial for beginners who got lost in the middle of various popular indicators. This is one of my fav method and it has no indicator. Just candlesticks and trendlines.
Hope it can be useful to anyone out there.

This tutorial is just about trading. No guide on installing Marketiva/Metatrader.
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That tutorial is ok, but not recommended for newbies. (should put there pls read babypips first biggrin.gif if u are newbie).

the strategy supply and demand is almost like mouteki.
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 3 2006, 05:16 PM)
That tutorial is ok, but not recommended for newbies. (should put there pls read babypips first  biggrin.gif if u are newbie).

the strategy supply and demand is almost like mouteki.
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If I remember correctly .. mouteki try to profit from trendline breakout.
This one actually trying to make money as long as the trendline is not broken e.g current trend is going strong.

There's no strategy for trendline breakout in this document .. sweat.gif

The idea is to help newbie make small but recurring profits in their trades (bullish reversal in a bullish trend happens frequently). IMO, that's the easiest place to make profit.

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 3 2006, 07:09 PM)
If I remember correctly .. mouteki try to profit from trendline breakout.
This one actually trying to make money as long as the trendline is not broken e.g current trend is going strong.

There's no strategy for trendline breakout in this document ..  sweat.gif

The idea is to help newbie make small but recurring profits in their trades (bullish reversal in a bullish trend happens frequently). IMO, that's the easiest place to make profit.
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I never says that it is exactly as mouteki tongue.gif

Its just that the trendline, supply and demand concept are almost the same i think.
Havent finish yet reading mouteki, just a quick review smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 3 2006, 08:10 PM)
I never says that it is exactly as mouteki  tongue.gif

Its just that the trendline, supply and demand concept are almost the same i think.
Havent finish yet reading mouteki, just a quick review  smile.gif
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Hehe copy that.


I heard NFP is this week ? Gotta get ready for it. Gonna see alot of action. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 3 2006, 11:29 AM)
Potential Wolf Wave detected in AUD/USD 1H charts
Let's see what's going to happen tomorow  rolleyes.gif
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Your WW failed to reach point 5. sad.gif

Ive noticed if you draw trendline from line 2 to 4, and then compare with line 1-3, the 2 trendline (line 1-3 and 2-4) are not converge. What you draw is broadening line.

Well broadening line do work, but the percentage are much lesser than converge line.
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Man, I wish I knew how to trade with foreign exchange. I just find it too damn complicated. Plus, if i am not mistaken you need a huge capital when you are dealing with foreign exchange and not to mention you have to be constantly aware of the political and economic condition of the currency that youare trading in.But then, it looks really interesting....
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 4 2006, 01:36 PM)
Your WW failed to reach point 5.  sad.gif

Ive noticed if you draw trendline from line 2 to 4, and then compare with line 1-3, the 2 trendline (line 1-3 and 2-4) are not converge. What you draw is broadening line.

Well broadening line do work, but the percentage are much lesser than converge line.
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Ouch ...

I see you are using interbankfx ... how's the quality of service ? ... what's the overnight interest policy ?
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Interbank service is getting worse day by day.

Heard rumours it is going to close down.

Remember refco? shocking.gif
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You know where can i try this forex trading thingy online.
I've downloaded a client from Marketiva but i wont connect.
Is there any other site?
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 4 2006, 02:19 PM)
Ouch ...

I see you are using interbankfx ... how's the quality of service ? ... what's the overnight interest policy ?
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Well first of all, im still using demo acc ( right now my exp is like 1 month+). So like i using meta4 client only. Dont know which meta4 broker is the best. So dont ask me about those stuff.

Waiting like 1 or 2 month more then open live acc. Right now still learning, especially money management.

Well if like using meta4 as chart analysis and indicator only but play at diffrent broker, i think EFX is ok (got lowest spread). but dont know the performance though.
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You know where can i try this forex trading thingy online.
I've downloaded a client from Marketiva but i wont connect.
Is there any other site?
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Try NorthFinance
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actually what is forex????
is it gain the return from changing the currency when the value up n down? unsure.gif
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go to www.babypips.com and learn.
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Well first of all, im still using demo acc ( right now my exp is like 1 month+). So like i using meta4 client only. Dont know which meta4 broker is the best. So dont ask me about those stuff.

Waiting like 1 or 2 month more then open live acc. Right now still learning, especially money management.

Well if like using meta4 as chart analysis and indicator only but play at diffrent broker, i think EFX is ok (got lowest spread). but dont know the performance though.
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Lower spread broker is good for investors to scalp rclxms.gif
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Caught another Wolfe Wave today ... Timeframe 15 min.

41 pips only sweat.gif


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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 4 2006, 11:15 PM)
Caught another Wolfe Wave today ... Timeframe 15 min.

41 pips only  sweat.gif
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Nice.

Got 2 WW again on GU tf m15.

blue line 1st WW, red line 2nd WW. The 2nd WW from point 5 to EPA is very unstable.
Im didnt open any position though, coz afraid of GU biggrin.gif even when im using demo acc sweat.gif

Currently right now im open sell at EURCHF at h1 tf and gain 47pips but still not reach EPA yet thumbup.gif

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damn..hardly got time to online...can only do swing trading when at university.. vmad.gif

yesterday pay out:

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GBP/CHF
Sell @ 2.3609
TP : 2.3543 ( 88pips projection target) HIT!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
SL: 2.3632

WW is on learning process..
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payout on the way: (215 pips projection)


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GBP/JPY
Sell @ 226.88
TP : 224.80
SL: 226.40 (40 pips profit lock)

current profit @ 88 pips.


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Hafifee .. good job. Seems like Several currencies are going down. Seems like a ripe time to begin shorting.
Trend lines are breaking down... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 6 2006, 02:56 PM)
Hafifee .. good job. Seems like Several currencies are going down. Seems like a ripe time to begin shorting.
Trend lines are breaking down...  thumbup.gif
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yup..but major pair now is ranging market..
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kalau boleh..
paste la hasil korang dapat dari WW..
sebagai pembakar semangat tok belajar teknin nie..hehe

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Hi...can ask about the pic below...

when i click sell...the price went down..bla bla bla till it shows that my profit is 230.00, why is the below indicate my available margin as such and also my virtual trading value doesn't change? blink.gif blink.gif


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silly me..i forgot to close my positions... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 6 2006, 09:27 PM)
Hi...can ask about the pic below...

when i click sell...the price went down..bla bla bla till it shows that my profit is 230.00, why is the below indicate my available margin as such and also my virtual trading value doesn't change?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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1. the "order" tab is for monitor your order..
if you want to see ur pip..look at the "positions" tab..n u will see the profit or loss.

2. ur margin will not change until the current position is close.

3. dont trade using 100% of ur margin. shocking.gif ..
the max is 30% only...

money management is very important in forex... learn from now..if nor..u will end up like me..learn the hard way doh.gif

really enjoy looking more n more people joining forex laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif




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Lol there were many WW candidate last night but none of them show strong entry signal... sweat.gif
But anyway Fibonacci is really magic ... I entered this position at 1130 pm ... when I woke up this morning..the target profit reached. Anyone learning to trade, make sure Fibonacci retracement is in your syllabus. wink.gif

Target profit in Fibs is usually 61.8% and 161.8%. In strong market it may reach 261.8%.







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Lol there were many WW candidate last night but none of them show strong entry signal...  sweat.gif
But anyway Fibonacci is really magic ... I entered this position at 1130 pm ... when I woke up this morning..the target profit reached. Anyone learning to trade, make sure Fibonacci retracement is in your syllabus.  wink.gif

Target profit in Fibs is usually 61.8% and 161.8%. In strong market it may reach 261.8%.
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Menarik tu. Aku ada baca kat FF ada trader pakai WW dgn fibo. target dia 161.8%.
And aku dah test, mostly semua mmg kena kat 61.8%.
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wanna ask a little.

how does the broker charge? how many pips, usually?


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wanna ask a little.

how does the broker charge? how many pips, usually?
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Marketiva ... 5 pips ..
North Finance 2-10 pips depending on market condition.


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5 pips. O_O

shiets.. lucky i'm not dealing with real money weih... usually makign only 4 pips lidat... mar rugi...

hahaha... nvm. anyway. started yesterday, thx to u all punya influence. whahahaha
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5 pips. O_O

shiets.. lucky i'm not dealing with real money weih... usually makign only 4 pips lidat... mar rugi...

hahaha... nvm. anyway. started yesterday, thx to u all punya influence. whahahaha
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well, i have 1 1/2 years to train before i finish college. happy.gif
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 7 2006, 10:52 AM)
5 pips. O_O

shiets.. lucky i'm not dealing with real money weih... usually makign only 4 pips lidat... mar rugi...

hahaha... nvm. anyway. started yesterday, thx to u all punya influence. whahahaha
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but Real Trader the only broker i found that the spread didnt change..but the spread on the cross pair is very high...8pips sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Dec 7 2006, 02:19 AM)
1. the "order" tab is for monitor your order..
if you want to see ur pip..look at the "positions" tab..n u will see the profit or loss.

2. ur margin will not change until the current position is close.

3. dont trade using 100% of ur margin. shocking.gif ..
the max is 30% only...

money management is very important in forex... learn from now..if nor..u will end up like me..learn the hard way  doh.gif

really enjoy looking more n more people joining forex laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
happy trading.
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Thanks... I've just found out about it that I need to go to the "positions" tab to close my trade. All these while I've been closing with selling or buying back tongue.gif A stupid mistake from a super noob laugh.gif Still learning.
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 7 2006, 07:02 PM)
Thanks... I've just found out about it that I need to go to the "positions" tab to close my trade. All these while I've been closing with selling or buying back  tongue.gif  A stupid mistake from a super noob  laugh.gif  Still learning.
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experience is the best teacher rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

happy trading. biggrin.gif
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hi there, i am interested in forex and ive just started reading about. can any of you help me with what does this sentence mean?

The minimum fluctuation of an exchange rate is referred to as a "pip". For USD/JPY and EUR/JPY, a pip is equal to 0.01 and for the other exchange rates, a pip is equal to 0.0001.

thanks in advance
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eg. USD/JPY = 123.45 or EUR/USD = 6.7890

the last red digit is pip.

Well, at least I think so.
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woohoo , tonight 9.30 NFP !! hope for the best :cheers.gif:
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QUOTE(ao_othman @ Dec 8 2006, 12:40 AM)
hi there, i am interested in forex and ive just started reading about. can any of you help me with what does this sentence mean?

The minimum fluctuation of an exchange rate is referred to as a "pip". For USD/JPY and EUR/JPY, a pip is equal to 0.01 and for the other exchange rates, a pip is equal to 0.0001.

thanks in advance
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the changes of the last digit on the pair is pips..
USD/JPY , EUR/JPY , GPB/JPY the pair index is xxx.xx
other pair currency is x.xxx

for example..base on pic below laugh.gif (morning trade)

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i enter short sell on GBP/USD @ price 1.9638
then the price go down and reach my target @ 1.9614.
total pips = 24 pips.

*note: when u enter sell/short position, ur are making profit when the price go down, vice versa with long/buy.for example the red pips in the SS, price is increasing righ now smile.gif

happy trading



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QUOTE(anuarnor @ Dec 8 2006, 05:18 AM)
eg. USD/JPY = 123.45 or  EUR/USD = 6.7890

the last red digit is pip.

Well, at least I think so.
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not the last digit is the pip... smile.gif
the changes of the digit = pips profit/loss


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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Dec 8 2006, 09:31 AM)
woohoo , tonight 9.30 NFP !! hope for the best  :cheers.gif:
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some tips for trade NFP tonight...

NFP = non farm payroll
every first friday of the month.

this is the biggest impact news..movement can go up to 100+ pips in 30 minutes shocking.gif

there are 3 way to trade this news.


1. Hedging (berani mati @ kamikaze) notworthy.gif

10 minutes b4 news release:
-open buy n sell in instant execution/ market price order. TP 50pips SL 10pips.


2. Straddle (selamat sikit) flex.gif

10 minutes b4 news release:
- open pending order
"buy stop"+20pips from the current price TP 50pips SL 20 pips
"sell stop"-20pips from the current price TP 50pips SL 20 pips

3. stay away from market (lagi selamat dan akan di ikuti dengan sedikit penyesalan) rclxms.gif vmad.gif
10 minutes b4 news release:
- see the chart with full concentration n do nothing when watching pips flying away doh.gif tongue.gif

IMPORTANT:
Please follow money management rule. for your own good smile.gif

happy news trading..hehe

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what is a short trade and long trade? does it mean selling or buying?

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huhuhu....here's mine. I apply the candle stick with the EMA to trade yesterday and this is my result. Really wish it was real money laugh.gif



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QUOTE(hafifee @ Dec 8 2006, 11:30 AM)
some tips for trade NFP tonight...

NFP = non farm payroll
every first friday of the month.

this is the biggest impact news..movement can go up to 100+ pips in 30 minutes  shocking.gif

there are 3 way to trade this news.
1. Hedging (berani mati @ kamikaze)  notworthy.gif

10 minutes b4 news release:
-open buy n sell in instant execution/ market price order. TP 50pips SL 10pips.
2. Straddle  (selamat sikit) flex.gif

10 minutes b4 news release:
- open pending order
            "buy stop"+20pips  from the current price TP 50pips SL 20 pips
            "sell stop"-20pips  from the current price TP 50pips SL 20 pips

3. stay away from market (lagi selamat dan akan di ikuti dengan sedikit penyesalan)  rclxms.gif  vmad.gif
10 minutes b4 news release:
- see the chart with full concentration  n do nothing when watching pips flying away doh.gif  tongue.gif 

IMPORTANT:
Please follow money management rule. for your own good smile.gif

happy news trading..hehe
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huhuhu...dare not trade tonight. the trend seems confusing.

QUOTE(ao_othman @ Dec 8 2006, 02:53 PM)
what is a short trade and long trade? does it mean selling or buying?
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short trade means selling, long means buying.
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Dec 8 2006, 11:30 AM)
some tips for trade NFP tonight...

NFP = non farm payroll
every first friday of the month.

this is the biggest impact news..movement can go up to 100+ pips in 30 minutes  shocking.gif

there are 3 way to trade this news.
1. Hedging (berani mati @ kamikaze)  notworthy.gif

10 minutes b4 news release:
-open buy n sell in instant execution/ market price order. TP 50pips SL 10pips.
2. Straddle  (selamat sikit) flex.gif

10 minutes b4 news release:
- open pending order
            "buy stop"+20pips  from the current price TP 50pips SL 20 pips
            "sell stop"-20pips  from the current price TP 50pips SL 20 pips

3. stay away from market (lagi selamat dan akan di ikuti dengan sedikit penyesalan)  rclxms.gif  vmad.gif
10 minutes b4 news release:
- see the chart with full concentration  n do nothing when watching pips flying away doh.gif  tongue.gif 

IMPORTANT:
Please follow money management rule. for your own good smile.gif

happy news trading..hehe
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For the NFP is it always sided with USD? I mean for example like pair GBPUSD, so since NFP is USD news, the pair will go down meaning that the usd goes stronger. Or either way ?

Im asking this because im spotted a nice WW on h1 USDJPY, and after point 5 it should go downtrend. But if the NFP sided with the USD and goes UP, the WW will break sad.gif
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i am very confused about the use of stop and limit orders. im learning from this website http://www.futuresknowledge.com/forex/forex_stop.asp

i am using marketiva and im not sure the correct way of using it. under the price type, there is limit n stop. I select stop n put in the numbers that i want is that how i use it? if so what is the use of exit stop loss n exit target?

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 8 2006, 08:06 PM)
huhuhu....here's mine. I apply the candle stick with the EMA to trade yesterday and this is my result. Really wish it was real money  laugh.gif
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Yeah i really wish all of my trades were real money but right now to tell the truth, im still not too confidence of my self to start live acc.

But then again, when i used demo money, i felt kinda lazy to trade doh.gif
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QUOTE(ao_othman @ Dec 8 2006, 08:35 PM)
i am very confused about the use of stop and limit orders. im learning from this website http://www.futuresknowledge.com/forex/forex_stop.asp

i am using marketiva and im not sure the correct way of using it. under the price type, there is limit n stop. I select stop n put in the numbers that i want is that how i use it? if so what is the use of exit stop loss n exit target?

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Erm...price type, I dunno...have to wait for the otai2 here to answer that.

As for stop loss,

Let's say you BUY GBP/USD at 1.8000,
to avoid yourself from losing more money while you go out shopping or have a teh tarik drink, you place a stop loss at 1.7080 (which is 20 pip loss)

-AND-
instead of being too greddy (well, that's why i use it, i dunno about other tongue.gif) i put an exit target of 1.8050 (which is 50 pip profit)

Any corrections, otai2 pls correct thy humble student notworthy.gif notworthy.gif laugh.gif
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just registered and installed the marketiva, but i have no idea how to use the thingy.. rclxub.gif

i can see live 5USD, vistual 10000USD, so is it automatically in virtual mode?
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QUOTE(vincentlee83 @ Dec 8 2006, 08:58 PM)
just registered and installed the marketiva, but i have no idea how to use the thingy.. rclxub.gif

i can see live 5USD, vistual 10000USD, so is it automatically in virtual mode?
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yes...unless u click at desk to trade using real moo-lah brows.gif brows.gif

i wonder has anybody doubled up their live usd5 before? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 8 2006, 09:03 PM)
yes...unless u click at desk to trade using real moo-lah brows.gif  brows.gif

i wonder has anybody doubled up their live usd5 before?  notworthy.gif
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BTW, anyone doing this on a FULL-TIME basis? drool.gif
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omg, im seeing live now GBP/USD shooting up. can any1 explain why this is happening? from roughly 1.9558 to 1.9631 and rising. very sharp.

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QUOTE(ao_othman @ Dec 8 2006, 09:50 PM)
omg, im seeing live now GBP/USD shooting up. can any1 explain why this is happening? from roughly 1.9558 to 1.9631 and rising. very sharp.
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study the indicators and you'll know why. wink.gif

I've made virtual money of USD1000 in less than 5 mins doh.gif and again, i wish it was real money. I guess when we trade in virtual money, less emotion there is. shakehead.gif
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woot..great entry for long in GU and EU thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Gained about 20 pips each.
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crap. is it because of hte news release?

i saw some news come out, and poof, suddenly 40-60 pip movements on EUR/USD and USD/JPY.


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Damn, My WW hit stop loss(because of NFP), and then suddenly continue the waves. Should have put bigger stop loss.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 8 2006, 10:13 PM)
crap. is it because of hte news release?

i saw some news come out, and poof, suddenly 40-60 pip movements on EUR/USD and USD/JPY.
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All pair with USD will get the effect of the NFP news.
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hahahha. i made a very stupid mistake today.

i went short on EUR/USD. and short on USD/JPY.

Went against USD on one side, and supported USD on the other.
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ouh i now i know, every first friday of the month NFP will take place. how can i know or read the NFP news?

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 8 2006, 09:59 PM)
study the indicators and you'll know why.  wink.gif 

I've made virtual money of USD1000 in less than 5 mins  doh.gif  and again, i wish it was real money. I guess when we trade in virtual money, less emotion there is.  shakehead.gif
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hahaha

real market conditions are very complicated. we're still in the safe little pool, not out at sea! hahaha happy.gif

anyway, i'm startng to make profit. yay for me.

so far highest gain is 37 pips, short on EUR/USD. (not bad for a 3 day newbie, i'd say)

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QUOTE(ao_othman @ Dec 8 2006, 12:40 AM)
hi there, i am interested in forex and ive just started reading about. can any of you help me with what does this sentence mean?

The minimum fluctuation of an exchange rate is referred to as a "pip". For USD/JPY and EUR/JPY, a pip is equal to 0.01 and for the other exchange rates, a pip is equal to 0.0001.

thanks in advance
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Pip is the smallest increment/decrement in any pair.
Example

GBP/USD = 1.9397 (current price)
GBP/USD = 1.9399 (old price)

The difference is 2 pips.
Any increment/decrement will be in the multiple of 0.0001 which is 1 pip.
For USD/JPY ... 1 pip = 0.01

QUOTE(ao_othman @ Dec 8 2006, 09:50 PM)
omg, im seeing live now GBP/USD shooting up. can any1 explain why this is happening? from roughly 1.9558 to 1.9631 and rising. very sharp.
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The NFP news brought the pair down .. but the unemployment news that came 15 mins after that showed bad news for USA so the pair shot up. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 9 2006, 01:09 PM)
The NFP news brought the pair down .. but the unemployment news that came 15 mins after that showed bad news for USA so the pair shot up.  sweat.gif
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My WW broken because of these two news...

First pic is cause by NFP, after that second pic is cause by unemployment news i think.
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That's a good wave.... did you locked the profit when it hit the 2-4 line there ?
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 9 2006, 02:10 PM)
That's a good wave.... did you locked the profit when it hit the 2-4 line there ?
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Nope. Actually i hit my stoploss above the point 5 due to NFP. At that time i was out having dinner.

Im the type that want to set and forget, but i think for newbie like myself better to stick infront of the monitor to analyze the market more often. Its just that i have to many distraction from my fren sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 9 2006, 02:23 PM)
Nope. Actually i hit my stoploss above the point 5 due to NFP. At that time i was out having dinner.

Im the type that want to set and forget, but i think for newbie like myself better to stick infront of the monitor to analyze the market more often. Its just that i have to many distraction from my fren  sweat.gif
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Such an important day of the month and u went out for dinner.....opps
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QUOTE(uniglo @ Dec 9 2006, 02:57 PM)
Such an important day of the month and u went out for dinner.....opps
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thats the reason why im still using demo acc rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 9 2006, 03:02 PM)
thats the reason why im still using demo acc  rolleyes.gif
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No probelm mate, take it slow. Best is play demo.

But your mindset must be the demo account money inside is real money to you then only it works. If not wasting time. Hehe.

Better to lose demo account than real account hehe.
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yesterday was nice. I kind of earned USD2K from virtual and I actually used the USD5 live money to trade, which I use USD1 to do so and got myself now USD5.50 tongue.gif
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Luqman malam ni ko online ym tak?
ajar aku camne nak guna moneymanagement excel ko tu boleh?
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 9 2006, 04:51 PM)
Luqman malam ni ko online ym tak?
ajar aku camne nak guna moneymanagement excel ko tu boleh?
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Malam ni aku keluar berlibur ... balik lewat ... sweat.gif
Tapi besok malam/afternoon aku ada .....

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hey guys..is income from forex is taxable?would like to know this.i got a fren who got 20k usd juz from one night trade(of course his capital is bigger than profit)vermy much appreciated
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QUOTE(c2v4l @ Dec 10 2006, 08:12 PM)
hey guys..is income from forex is taxable?would like to know this.i got a fren who got 20k usd juz from one night trade(of course his capital is bigger than profit)vermy much appreciated
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No idea ... need to check that with Internal Revenue. I *think* it's non-taxable because the income is not "hasil dalam negeri".
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how to get start wif forex ? i m new to it..jz 1 2 hv a try..any sifu can teach me ?
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dude, there are two types of joining:
1) You play forex by yourself- need a lot of concentrations and must knowledgeable
2) You play forex by using remiser as a medium..

To hire a remiser, make sure , he or she is certified person...
dont risk your money by selecting uncertified person.

Normally, forex tradsing company, will have 2 types of remiser:
1) Certified remiser (pass test)
2) Uncertified a.k.a admin assistant

The most important thing is this:


MAKE SURE THAT COMPANY HAS LICIENCE TO DO FOREX TRADING.

AND YOU MUST KNOW what currencies there are playing.

Normally, forex will play 4 types of currencies:
1) USD
2) GBP
3) YEN
4) CHF

The best pairing currencies are GBP-USD..but DEPEND ON FOREX EXCHANGE RATE.

To understand about increase or decrease of the forex, watch Bloomberg in ASTRO
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QUOTE(uglytwinkle @ Dec 11 2006, 06:30 AM)
dude, there are two types of joining:
1) You play forex by yourself- need a lot of concentrations and must knowledgeable
2) You play forex by using remiser as a medium..

To hire a remiser, make sure , he or she is certified person...
dont risk your money by selecting uncertified person.

Normally, forex tradsing company, will have 2 types of remiser:
1) Certified remiser (pass test)
2) Uncertified a.k.a admin assistant

The most important thing is this:
MAKE SURE THAT COMPANY HAS LICIENCE TO DO FOREX TRADING.

AND YOU MUST KNOW what currencies there are playing.

Normally, forex will play 4 types of currencies:
1) USD
2) GBP
3) YEN
4) CHF

The best pairing currencies are GBP-USD..but DEPEND ON FOREX EXCHANGE RATE.

To understand about increase or decrease of the forex, watch Bloomberg in ASTRO
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ok..i can understand wad u mean...

then, where i can trade ?
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QUOTE(j3rry @ Dec 11 2006, 05:20 AM)
how to get start wif forex ? i m new to it..jz 1 2 hv a try..any sifu can teach me ?
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PM me and I will give you the stuff you need to start ...
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Good morning forex traders...

I've just logged in and saw its too late for a short this morning. Oh, well....nvm. Wait till 2pm and have a look laugh.gif

Opened any positions this morning luqmanz?
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 11 2006, 10:23 AM)
Good morning forex traders...

I've just logged in and saw its too late for a short this morning. Oh, well....nvm. Wait till 2pm and have a look  laugh.gif

Opened any positions this morning luqmanz?
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I wish I have my computer now..this office pc cannot be installed with forex tools ... I wanna look at EUR/JPY (4H charts) ..yesterday it seems like a good candidate for mouteki trading short position ... sweat.gif

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This morning ive got a pm at FF from someone who wants to sell me WW official manual at $250. Sadly ive dont have that much money.... cry.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 8 2006, 09:03 PM)
yes...unless u click at desk to trade using real moo-lah brows.gif  brows.gif

i wonder has anybody doubled up their live usd5 before?  notworthy.gif
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i see one trader making 300usd from 5usd in 3 month..
he is using breakout system..n he prove it with his screen shot..

NFP trading result using straddle :
uptrend profit : 156pips
downtrend profit : 212pips
spike porfit : 46pips

makan besar bulan ni..hehe

thanks NFP rclxms.gif
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Hmm.. after a long time havent open babypips, it seems they already update it.
http://www.babypips.com/
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monday

GU will do some retract upward min 1.9653 max at 1.9685. this morning GU goes down just like my prediction..

there will be some retracment b4 projection 1.93xx,

long term target is 1.83xx

p/s -all of the information above is done using 110% of Technical Analysis.
News release can give some or lots of impact. enter the market at ur own risk
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QUOTE(hafifee @ Dec 11 2006, 12:32 PM)
i see one trader making 300usd from 5usd in 3 month..
he is using breakout system..n he prove it with his screen shot..

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USD5 become USD300 .......... that's alot. blink.gif ... great skill.
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teach me guys...i want to learn...
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 11 2006, 10:30 AM)
I wish I have my computer now..this office pc cannot be installed with forex tools ... I wanna look at EUR/JPY  (4H charts) ..yesterday  it seems like a good candidate for mouteki trading short position ...  sweat.gif
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Beli laptop la tongue.gif
leh trade hari-2 icon_rolleyes.gif

btw excel moneymanagement tu is for marketiva right?

kalau guna metatrader lain calculation?
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QUOTE(j3rry @ Dec 11 2006, 02:59 PM)
teach me guys...i want to learn...
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I sent you email at gmail. wink.gif
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QUOTE(j3rry @ Dec 11 2006, 02:59 PM)
teach me guys...i want to learn...
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Have you learn the basic yet? If not go to http://www.babypips.com/

Well if you done that, what the question that you wanna ask?
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 11 2006, 03:14 PM)
Beli laptop la  tongue.gif
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btw excel moneymanagement tu is for marketiva right?

kalau guna metatrader lain calculation?
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Untuk trading account dalam USD ... dan pair currency xxx/USD sahaja ...
Aku tak tau camne nak kira untuk pair-pair lain.
Btw aku dh upload version baru kat thread nih .. post yg sama.

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 11 2006, 03:18 PM)
Untuk trading account dalam USD ... dan pair currency xxx/USD sahaja ...
Aku tak tau camne nak kira untuk pair-pair lain.
Btw aku dh upload version baru kat thread nih .. post yg sama.
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Apa broker awak pakai?

Thinking of going live with little money. Its like a demo with extra taste added(emotion).
When its ok, then going for real live using large amount of money, well not that large la blush.gif
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 11 2006, 03:38 PM)
Apa broker awak pakai?

Thinking of going live with little money. Its like a demo with extra taste added(emotion).
When its ok, then going for real live using large amount of money, well not that large la  blush.gif
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Marketiva. Maybe next week gonna start playing with the USD5 dollar. Im thinking of switching to northfinance later. It has trailing stop drool.gif.
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 11 2006, 03:46 PM)
Marketiva. Maybe next week gonna  start playing with the USD5  dollar. Im thinking of switching to northfinance later. It has trailing stop  drool.gif.
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Owh,

how about realtrader? ok ke?

well if i want to open real acc, ill be using interbankfx but for now just want to test my skill on the live using little money (tired of playing demo maybe becoz i dont feel a thing). So like i said earlier its like playing demo but with emotions tongue.gif .
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Ahhhh...i'm now from usd5 to usd5.60 tongue.gif trading with $1


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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 12 2006, 10:02 AM)
Ahhhh...i'm now from usd5 to usd5.60  tongue.gif  trading with $1
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congrats rclxms.gif

how many pips did you get?
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QUOTE(Quincy @ Dec 12 2006, 10:08 AM)
congrats  rclxms.gif

how many pips did you get?
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utk live punye, dlm 60 pips.

utk virtual punye smlm dpt 60 pips jugak... tongue.gif

tp each pair main exit target 20 pips jer...
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Hello guys. I have been reading thru this thread, a few threads at nogold.com, and been schoolin' myself up at babypips.com.

I do understand some of the basics, but I suppose I hafta finish up at babypips.com ( still at between 1st and 3rd Grade, heheh! ) before going for a demo account.

It seems that the most popular traders around here is : Northfinance ( NF ), Marketiva and InterbankFX. I am really dumb in Net moolah transactions, and I do not understand how to we take out our money from e-gold to our bank acc here in Malaysia?

By the way, I can't find Marketiva's demo account, only NF and InterbankFX. Which of these would be the best demo acc I should go for ( as I understand that having MetaTrader 4 is a plus, and Marketiva doesn't utilise MT4, rite? Only NF and InterbankFX rite? )

For those who have successfully trade a live acc for quite some time, how's the return like, especially for day traders ( as I do not want to take unnecessary risks, rather have small revenue daily rather having the risk of gaining more revenue at higher risks )? Maybe when I have enough understand on forex and how it works, I'll open up a mini acc woth USD 250.00 and later boosting it up to USD 500.0.

One of the stuffs I don't really get about these live accounts is, how does the leverage works? Thing like you got like, example :

Cash in acc : USD 1000.00
Commit for trading : USD 500.00 ( the rest left for the dreaded margin call? )
From the USD 500.00 committed for trading, how does the calculation works? 1 : 10? 1 : 100? 1 : 1000?

I read that there are online classes by local ppl here on forex, are they any good? Any recommendation? Reviews?
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hi poyo...
welcome to the world of forex... laugh.gif

I dunno about others, but I log into Marketiva Streamster at 9.30am and by now... I had earned about 100+pips. I am still new and just trying my theory every now and then. I am too from babypips.com and has reached about 7th Grade.

I find Marketiva is nice because of the simplicity but the downside of it is the graphs are pretty small to see for old eyes.




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Hi hamster9, thanks for your comments. Yeah, I've read around that Marketiva's Streamster is pretty easy to understand, but not as detailed and technical as Metatrader 4 platform, which is siad to be much more detailed ( well, I dunno lah. They say wan.. )

Wah, 100+ pips? How much converted to USD? Live acc or demo?

One thing I read around ( too! ), is that demo acc varies a lot from live / real acc, is it true?

QUOTE(hamster9 @ Dec 12 2006, 03:49 PM)
hi poyo...
welcome to the world of forex... laugh.gif

I dunno about others, but I log into Marketiva Streamster at 9.30am and by now... I had earned about 100+pips. I am still new and just trying my theory every now and then. I am too from babypips.com and has reached about 7th Grade.

I find Marketiva is nice because of the simplicity but the downside of it is the graphs are pretty small to see for old eyes.
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