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TSquovadis123
post Feb 28 2016, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(dadudeneverabides @ Feb 28 2016, 06:24 PM)
Deswai I no trust ady. Rather get refund and buy the cap from other sources.
The shitty whiteknights are the best part. One whole page of people defending CTRLalt, then one reply from cody/bunny.

On top of that, too many personal commitment to be doing this. I doubt they get zero profit from this. I don't believe that shit at all.
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"Tak balik modal" if doing community service for free. Unless, you will grow your reputation, then maybe different case.
But, from what we CLEARLY see, it's a well-plan company that doing for money.
Money money money. rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 28 2016, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(dadudeneverabides @ Feb 28 2016, 10:45 PM)
Not really sure because I've seen some older Cherry MX boards with lowered clicks, and some newer ones also with lower clicks. It's consistent across the same board (thank God), but when different boards of same age also slightly different feel.
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I see I see... thanks for the info, didnt know about this inconsistencies among Cherry MX Blue batches... notworthy.gif

Will try out how Gateron Blues feel and personally also hope it can be better than Cherry MX Blues, since the quality is better (based on my findings on comparison reviews and disassembling reviews) and prices also cheaper than the original smile.gif

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post Feb 29 2016, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Feb 28 2016, 10:46 PM)
G700S is laser mouse right? If not mistaken it is laser mouse's trait to have acceleration compared to optical  hmm.gif
Im using Strix Claw and Kana v2, both also Optical...

The Hololens is the one that i have been anticipating, wanting to play Pokemon or Yugioh like those in the animes  laugh.gif

the AR field Hololens' only competitor big G's Glass project macam back to drawing board already.
Hope this doesnt mean Micro$ can take their own sweet time to fine tune this and took years to release it  doh.gif
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i heard that the proteus at the time had a different laser also none of this acceleration issue. it was closer to null acceleration which is pretty ideal. meaning when you move mouse it goes as far as that. acceleration adds a little unintended kick. for me i do sense a tiny bit of it hmm.gif

someone made a review of it here

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TL;DR at bottom of review.

BACKGROUND:

I have been an owner of the Logitech G9 mouse since 2009. I love that mouse so much that I bought a backup G9X when I found out they were no longer being made and panicked that I wouldn't be able to find a similar replacement when my G9 died (it still works great btw). I found this mouse after seeing some people mention it on the Logitech forums when it came out just a week or two ago.

I use a hybrid fingertip/clawgrip style which for all intents and purposes can be thought of as just a clawgrip. I have small hands for a man or medium size hands for a woman. The G9 was great for me as it was a small low profile mouse perfect for clawgrip. I used the "precision" grip as it was slightly more narrow and had a more grippy texture.

I do the typical everyday typical web browsing and Microsoft Office stuff. In addition to that, I play some FPS games and WoW.

G502 COMPARISON TO G9/G9X:
(G9 & G9X are the same mice with a better sensor on the G9X for those who don't know)

- Size/Form Factor - Slightly more narrow than the G9. Side grip points are rubbery and feels great to grab on to. It is taller than the G9, but not enough to make a difference for my grip style. It is also technically longer than the G9, but most the extra length is due to the longer main 2 left/right mouse buttons. This ends up also making no difference on my clawgrip style because I am still able to click those 2 main mouse buttons closer to the palmrest side of the mouse. Larger hands can click them farther away from the palmrest. I feel like I can grab on to the mouse with my grip style and really have control over it. Overall, I actually like the ergonomics of the G502 better than the G9 (never thought I'd be saying that!)

- Weight - I played around with the G502's included weights and ended up liking the weight of the g502 naked. Logitech's website lists G502 at 168g, and the G9 at 153g with precision grip. With the G9, I had 4x4g in the tray for a total weight of 169g. So I ended up liking about the same weight 168 vs. 169g. Ha!...who knew we could discern mouse weights so well? The G502 comes with an additional 5 x 3.6g weights, so the range is 168-186g. G9's range is 153-181g with the precision grip. If you like to use G9 without weights (or less than 4x4g put in), you will find the G502 a little heavier.

- Buttons - You get 11 programmable buttons with the G502 vs 9 programmable buttons with the G9. The 2 additional buttons are defaulted to "DPI shift" located at the tip of where your thumb lies, and the "profile switch" button located south of the mouse wheel. 2 standard thumb buttons feel better in that they are "clickier" and located more naturally for my thumb to hit when compared to the G9. The 2 DPI up/down buttons are moved to left of the left mouse button. DPI up ends up farther away north on the mouse which may make it more difficult to get to for clawgrippers.

- Mousewheel - Bigger and made of a sort of metal. I prefer the rubbery texture of the G9's mouse wheel better. The metal texture of the G502 almost makes it feel slippery at times, but the groves on the wheel itself, and the reassuring clicking make me feel confident while scrolling. Switch to go free scrolling is now located on the front of the mouse just south of the mousewheel which is much better (and makes it used more) as I don't have to look down and turn over the mouse to switch modes. 3 mousewheel buttons easier to click than the G9. Middle mouse button still stiffer than I'd like but much improved over the G9. This makes the G502's middle mouse button actually usable for me.

- Sensor - Obviously mouse sensor technology has gone beyond what 99.99% of people will ever use. G502's sensor is amazing. DPI goes up to 12,000, but I only use 2500. The sensor does feel precise and I don't notice any acceleration. Other people have tested this and note zero acceleration. I use a Steelseries cloth mousepad, and you can tune the g502 to different surfaces with the software...don't know how much of a difference "tuning" really makes in real world application.

- Miscellaneous/Software - Uses standard Logitech Gaming Software which works well, and nothing new to learn. Tried to use and tune it on my glass table which didn't work (Logitech does not claim that it will work on glass). Blue G light on palmrest can be turned off if too bright for user as mentioned in another review, but I personally like it and don't find it distracting.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

Logitech has made, in my eyes, a successor to the G9/G9X...not only that, but the G502 is a WORTHY successor to the G9/G9X. Logitech does not market the G502 as the successor to the G9/G9X, but the form factor, weight tuning, buttons, mousewheel, and sensor all certainly have the feel of the G9/G9X. The thing I wanted most with my G9 were a few extra buttons for gaming. I get 3 extra buttons with the G502 (counting the middle mouse as an extra button as I could never use the G9's because it was so stiff). The form factor of the g502 is great for my small hands, and fingertip/clawgrip style. Again, I think it would be great for larger hands as well due to the longer main left/right mouse buttons accommodating a range of hand sizes, but I'll defer that to other reviewers with larger hands. I am now officially using the G502 as my main mouse, and putting the G9 (and an unused backup G9X) in storage. Sort of sad to put away 2 excellent and working mice like that, but the G502 is an upgrade.

I tried to be thorough in my comparison, but I'm sure I forgot to mention things people are interested in hearing about so feel free to ask comment and ask questions.

TL;DR - Form factor great for range of hand sizes and claw grip. Shares many design principles (with many improvements, although some not as good ideas) with the old G9/G9X. I am replacing my G9 with the G502 and consider the G502 a worthy successor/upgrade to the G9/G9X.



by the way my mouse habit is somewhere beteween a claw grip palm style.
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as for holo lense and similar gear, i give it another 50 or so years before it can begin to come close to a keyboard replacement. and even then i doubt there will be much physical tactile feedback when typing. probably some form of audio feedback like a cherry mx blue clicky but in digital special sound effect. my guess xd.




anyway sorry to digress smile.gif back to reality sad.gif

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Feb 29 2016, 12:59 AM
belfong
post Feb 29 2016, 11:49 AM

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So, anyone going for the brand new Model F62 or F77?
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post Feb 29 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Feb 29 2016, 11:49 AM)
So, anyone going for the brand new Model F62 or F77?
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admire what they did but no. rather put the money towards a Model M SSK.
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post Feb 29 2016, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Feb 29 2016, 12:49 AM)
as for holo lense and similar gear, i give it another 50 or so years before it can begin to come close to a keyboard replacement. and even then i doubt there will be much physical tactile feedback when typing. probably some form of audio feedback like a cherry mx blue clicky but in digital special sound effect. my guess xd.


anyway sorry to digress  smile.gif back to reality  sad.gif
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no need to guess, http://www.ctxtechnologies.com/products/vk...rtual-keyboard/

if there is a day when hololens become potential keyboard replacement, the keyboard input would be similar like the virtual keyboard i assume laugh.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(davey.havok @ Feb 29 2016, 12:00 PM)
admire what they did but no. rather put the money towards a Model M SSK.
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Yeah, it's an insane price! Shipping was around $65 too! Ouch!
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post Feb 29 2016, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Feb 29 2016, 06:05 PM)
Yeah, it's an insane price! Shipping was around $65 too! Ouch!
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If 1MYR = 1USD then Malaysians might consider. But the reality is cruel..... cry.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(ntw @ Feb 29 2016, 06:31 PM)
If 1MYR = 1USD then Malaysians might consider. But the reality is cruel..... cry.gif
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Sigh! I'll stick with my SSK.
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post Feb 29 2016, 06:39 PM

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LOL, I was removed from Malaysia Mechanical keyboard group by a raging admin @quovadis123

Guess they'll kick anyone that gets in their way from milking beginners? tongue.gif

Never forget - RM150 soldering kits (55rmb from taobao) and TGR-china

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QUOTE(belfong @ Feb 29 2016, 06:05 PM)
Yeah, it's an insane price! Shipping was around $65 too! Ouch!
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Anyone selling SSK below USD100 please let me know smile.gif
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Feelin great today. rolleyes.gif

Got this PBT caps for gf she like it a lot. rclxms.gif



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post Feb 29 2016, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(davey.havok @ Feb 29 2016, 07:41 PM)
Anyone selling SSK below USD100 please let me know  smile.gif
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I got my SSK for $100 but it was super dirty. Sent to phorsphoglow to refurbish ($40) and then ship to Malaysia ($60), so really, you can't get one for $100 at all if you want it like-new.
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post Feb 29 2016, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 29 2016, 06:39 PM)
LOL, I was removed from Malaysia Mechanical keyboard group by a raging admin @quovadis123

Guess they'll kick anyone that gets in their way from milking beginners? tongue.gif

Never forget - RM150 soldering kits (55rmb from taobao) and TGR-china
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I'm not in there, so really not knowing anything happen. sad.gif
You don't like their method milking beginners?
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post Feb 29 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Feb 29 2016, 10:09 PM)
I'm not in there, so really not knowing anything happen.  sad.gif
You don't like their method milking beginners?
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Heh I posted a WTS in their page ( while their own group buy can be posted and pinned, such irony ) then one of the admin removed it and post about no selling and stuffs and get raged when I raise about the group buy and decided to kick me out cry.gif

Well actually I have no grudges against milking newbie but at the very least don't tell lies la, if you source it from taobao u just tell it's from taobao, unlike someone few post above that lied that he actually owned them and sell them at higher price few years ago when I still newbie, now they make a fb group just to run their "groupbuy" rclxms.gif
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post Mar 1 2016, 12:53 AM

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Hi, I recently bought a Filco Tkl blue switches and was looking to get some white key caps and I came across this.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index....t_detail&p=1333

What do you guys think about the price and reliability of this website sending to Malaysia?

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post Mar 1 2016, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(weingseen @ Mar 1 2016, 12:53 AM)
Hi, I recently bought a Filco Tkl blue switches and was looking to get some white key caps and I came across this.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index....t_detail&p=1333

What do you guys think about the price and reliability of this website sending to Malaysia?
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Hi you can try searching from taobao as they have many choices for keycaps, just put in 键帽 in the search bar.
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post Mar 1 2016, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 29 2016, 10:21 PM)
Heh I posted a WTS in their page ( while their own group buy can be posted and pinned, such irony ) then one of the admin removed it and post about no selling and stuffs and get raged when I raise about the group buy and decided to kick me out   cry.gif

Well actually I have no grudges against milking newbie but at the very least don't tell lies la, if you source it from taobao u just tell it's from taobao, unlike someone few post above that lied that he actually owned them and sell them at higher price few years ago when I still newbie, now they make a fb group just to run their "groupbuy"  rclxms.gif
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isnt there a separate group for selling stuff? why post on a discussion page

and then the guy also posted this
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Seems there are some who keep doubt the pricing of the soldering kits, I think I will put the costing here :-
1. Yellow Flower 905c - RMB 50
2. Hakko -20G Desoldering "sucker" - RMB 90
3. Soldering Iron Holder - RMB 20
4. Tweezers - 3 in 1 sets - RMB 20
5. Flush Cutter - RMB 4
6. Kester 63/37 Soldering iron 1OZ = RMB10
7. China inland shipping fees to warehouse = RMB30

Total :50+90+20+20+4+10+30=224
Total(RM) : 224/1.5=149.333333
(Assuming rate is 1.5, change everyday )

Ship to Malaysia : 1KG = RM12

Total with Shipping = RM162


not siding with anyone just giving both sides of the story

This post has been edited by siles1991: Mar 1 2016, 02:26 AM
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post Mar 1 2016, 02:33 AM

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post Mar 1 2016, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Mar 1 2016, 02:33 AM)
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bro can pm me a quote on a 1.5 or 2m cable, a basic one dont need fancy fancy

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