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cyclone9
post Jan 9 2008, 06:15 AM

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where can i get the history of funds distribution?? 2004-2007
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post Jan 9 2008, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jan 9 2008, 06:15 AM)
where can i get the history of funds distribution?? 2004-2007
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Which funds you are looking at?
Can PM me, then i can help u to look for it....anyway, it is available in the Quaterly Fund Report available at PM, n oso fr ur agent smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 08:53 PM

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go to www.publicmutual.com.my

u can find what u looking for there..

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jan 9 2008, 06:15 AM)
where can i get the history of funds distribution?? 2004-2007
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Added on January 9, 2008, 9:52 pmu can't caluculate it that way because public mutual is helping us to make money..

they also have to earn their living..

nothing is free..

think of long term, the service charge is only one time..

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Dec 15 2007, 11:03 PM)
I think the 7% is from the service charge.

Remember, whenever your fund starts to earn...lets say 1%.... actually the fund have already made 7.5% (6.5% is for service charge).
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cyclone9
post Jan 10 2008, 03:16 PM

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do i been charged annually? if i invest in 1 fund?
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post Jan 10 2008, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jan 10 2008, 03:16 PM)
do i been charged annually? if i invest in 1 fund?
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There are 3 types of charges and fee in unit trust investment.
Service charge is charged when you invest the money in.
Annual management fee is deducted everyday from the fund NAV before the NAV being published.
Annual Trustee fee is also deducted everyday from the fund NAV before the NAV being published.
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post Jan 10 2008, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Jan 10 2008, 04:26 PM)
There are 3 types of charges and fee in unit trust investment.
Service charge is charged when you invest the money in.
Annual management fee is deducted everyday from the fund NAV before the NAV being published.
Annual Trustee fee is also deducted everyday from the fund NAV before the NAV being published.
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i get lesser everyday then?
kingkong81
post Jan 10 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jan 10 2008, 04:35 PM)
i get lesser everyday then?
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Not really...The charges are fixed rate...so whether ur funds go up or down, the charges remains the same.
They can't raise it up simply because the fund is going up, else, a lot of people will be holding their axes & picketing in front of fund manager's offices laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Today, I went to Philips security Malaysia website. Surprise to find certain section is still under construction. Besides, when I search for product, there were few choices and I thought, what's so good to invest then? limted product to choose with no alternative. So different from Philips SG..
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[quote=kingkong81,Jan 7 2008, 10:58 PM]
The Mutual Gold Qualifying Points (MGQP) works like this:

RM1 of investment (i.e. worth of capital) is equivalent to 1 MGQP points.
To be Mutual Gold Member, you have to have 100,000 points, i.e. RM100,000 of capital invested.
The capital gain from your investment will not be consider for MGQP points, eg. U put in RM1000, after 1 year it become RM1,500, your MGQP is still 1000 points.

U can know more about Mutual Gold here:
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?n...vice-mutualgold

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KingKong81,

if our fund drop value,aka lost,will our MGQP drop too?

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post Jan 10 2008, 11:05 PM

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if our fund drop value,aka lost,will our MGQP drop too?
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MGQP are deducted for:
1) Repurchase
2) Switching out (into MMF, bond, i.e non-equity & balance fund)
3) Transfer out

So as long as u did not do the above, u still keep your MGQP
Investment into low-load funds, distribution reinvestment & unit splits are not entitle for MGQP

MGQP can be credited for:
1) investment
2) switching in
3) transfer in
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post Jan 10 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 4 2008, 03:43 PM)
I don't have a problem with this IF the agents can get the timing right. For eg, in 2007 there were 2 big drops - March and August. If an agent had told me to sell in July, and buy again in mid-August, I would have gladly given them double the service charge.  smile.gif
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again,Dreamer's classic advice will be come to help."Know How To Calculate!"

if you get lower sales charge,it mean you either get bigger profit or at least,lesser loss.
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 10 2008, 10:48 PM)
Not really...The charges are fixed rate...so whether ur funds go up or down, the charges remains the same.
They can't raise it up simply because the fund is going up, else, a lot of people will be holding their axes & picketing in front of fund manager's offices  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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since they are charging everyday... how do they calculatE?
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jan 11 2008, 12:37 AM)
since they are charging everyday... how do they calculatE?
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I don't know how exactly, but I imagine it would be be something like this:

Management fee: 1.5%
Number of days NAV calculated: 52 weeks X 5 days - 20 public holidays = 240 days (or thereabouts)
Management fee per NAV day: 1.5 / 240 = 0.00625%

Therefore 0.00625% is deducted each day NAV is calculated. Sounds reasonable?
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post Jan 11 2008, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 11 2008, 12:13 PM)
I don't know how exactly, but I imagine it would be be something like this:

Management fee: 1.5%
Number of days NAV calculated: 52 weeks X 5 days - 20 public holidays = 240 days (or thereabouts)
Management fee per NAV day: 1.5 / 240 = 0.00625%

Therefore 0.00625% is deducted each day NAV is calculated. Sounds reasonable?
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You are correct, this is the way they deduct the management fee.

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post Jan 12 2008, 01:51 AM

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ING launch new fund China Access. Anyone going for it?
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:54 AM

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CIMB-Principal standardises names of unit trust funds

KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB-Principal Asset Management Bhd has standardised the names of the unit trust funds within its stable.

All conventional funds now carry the prefix "CIMB-Principal" while its Islamic funds will carry the prefix "CIMB Islamic".

Previously, some of these funds either carried the prefix "SBB" or did not have prefixes.

Chief executive Datuk Noripah Kamso said in a statement yesterday that the new naming convention ensured consistency and allowed local and regional investors to recognise the group's brand and investment products immediately.

It also creates a distinct brand for CIMB's syariah-compliant funds.

The renaming exercise also applies to funds of its subsidiary CIMB Wealth Advisors Bhd that are being managed by CIMB-Principal

URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...34&sec=business
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(rollinpark @ Jan 12 2008, 01:51 AM)
ING launch new fund China Access. Anyone going for it?
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If you look at different funds by different managers with the word 'China' in the name, they all show a downward trend from the peak of about 3 months ago.

So it depends on what you think is going to happen from now on. I think there might be a period of 'uncertainty' (not sure what the word means but its something I picked up from reports by 'analysts' smile.gif ) due to China trying to cool the overheating economy, inflation pressures and pressure to revalue the Yuan, and side-effects from the US stuff-ups.

I have some China-related funds that I'm thinking of pulling out now because I don't think a positive upwards trend is going to happen soon, at least not until towards the end of the year. But haven't really decided yet.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2008, 06:00 PM)
If you look at different funds by different managers with the word 'China' in the name, they all show a downward trend from the peak of about 3 months ago.

So it depends on what you think is going to happen from now on. I think there might be a period of 'uncertainty' (not sure what the word means but its something I picked up from reports by 'analysts'  smile.gif ) due to China trying to cool the overheating economy, inflation pressures and pressure to revalue the Yuan, and side-effects from the US stuff-ups.

I have some China-related funds that I'm thinking of pulling out now because I don't think a positive upwards trend is going to happen soon, at least not until towards the end of the year. But haven't really decided yet.
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Recently, although China related stocks index is high, there are plenty of stocks that are way off their previos peak. Its bullishness currently become a bit more sectorial, not overall.
It somehow like KLSE and KLCI case, KLCI might be hitting 1500, but there are plenty of stocks in KLSE that still way below the price when 1200 level.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2008, 06:03 PM)
Recently, although China related stocks index is high, there are plenty of stocks that are way off their previos peak. Its bullishness currently become a bit more sectorial, not overall.
It somehow like KLSE and KLCI case, KLCI might be hitting 1500, but there are plenty of stocks in KLSE that still way below the price when 1200 level.
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KLCI case is alittle different from the rest... being GE year and this usually the case with many other index, prop up and FEEL GOOD effect by the Gov before GE. not surprising its being pushed up all the way. unlike many others.

I do own some China Equity fund, but still waiting for signal whether to pull out. I also own Indian fund, but its mooving upward though. I hope what was said was right and from the chart pattern, seems like its least affected by US problem. The entire Asia in RED, but this fellow is GREEN....

I am going to sell off my one position which has focus in Korea on Monday. I don't think the market is going to continue any more uptrend for now, next few months. Just last night, another big announcement from US, another big US bank had revealed Subprime lost is much bigger than it was reported after teh last write off... much worse causing the US index to plunge even further 200+points..... Will see waht happen on Monday, but for KLCI... not sure how it would perform... being GE year, ... punters and analysts will sure try push it up again if not another.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2008, 06:00 PM)
If you look at different funds by different managers with the word 'China' in the name, they all show a downward trend from the peak of about 3 months ago.

So it depends on what you think is going to happen from now on. I think there might be a period of 'uncertainty' (not sure what the word means but its something I picked up from reports by 'analysts'  smile.gif ) due to China trying to cool the overheating economy, inflation pressures and pressure to revalue the Yuan, and side-effects from the US stuff-ups.

I have some China-related funds that I'm thinking of pulling out now because I don't think a positive upwards trend is going to happen soon, at least not until towards the end of the year. But haven't really decided yet.
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Seems like China based funds are still hot. Osk-Uob also launch another China fund. And also PB Far East Consumer fund. hmm.gif Read an article by S.Dali in TheStar BizWeek regarding mutual funds. What it said makes a lot of sense.

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