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 WAY TOO MUCH THREAD IN NINTENDO, Please comment

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PhoenixByte
post Apr 2 2009, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 12:45 PM)
Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Hold on.

Nentendo Kopitiam V 30th [OPEN], Mad World in Chinatown edition

First few post. Thread opened by PhoenixByte on Mar 15 2009, 05:36 AM
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ahaha...n u took all that post seriously? doh.gif there's a reason why it was named kopitiam n there's also a reason why in LYN there exist a kopitiam sub just for it. u can quote all the other post in there n take it seriously too. sweat.gif


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post Apr 2 2009, 12:52 PM

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True also, but then you would also agree that having mod open the thread instead of mad rush will reduce all those craps.
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post Apr 2 2009, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Apr 2 2009, 12:48 PM)
I loved kopitiam when it was giving discussion on every single thing, and we debated seriously.

Honestly, its one of the things that rarely happen now. Not in 2007 though.
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Nak debate open table la like this, proper topic, people will join...ada ke nak debate kat dlm kopitiam.

and who said there's no game thread? If there is a good game...ppl will flock the thread. Example of existing new ones like GTA CW, Suikoden, Mad World. It's just that we rarely get good nintendo titles to talk about, so there's nothing to talk about except just talk in kopitiam.


Added on April 2, 2009, 12:57 pm
QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 12:52 PM)
True also, but then you would also agree that having mod open the thread instead of mad rush will reduce all those craps.
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i would agree if i see the point..but like i said, what difference does it make if a mod opens a kopitiam thread? Please enlighten me on the differences for i am lost on that one. sweat.gif

Even if normal users open a kopitiam thread, the mod can still hv power over it. So where's the diff?

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post Apr 2 2009, 01:03 PM

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First few post. Thread opened by PhoenixByte on Mar 15 2009, 05:36 AM

Thats the difference.
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post Apr 2 2009, 01:07 PM

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Well if it's pin pointed that kopitiam is the root of all evil just shut it down. I'll remember meeting a bunch of friends from my days there. I don't how was this sub looks like since I'm relatively new, may be it was better when kopitiam wasn't around.

Gamers should just talk about games, so be it.
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post Apr 2 2009, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 01:03 PM)
First few post. Thread opened by PhoenixByte on Mar 15 2009, 05:36 AM

Thats the difference.
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and the difference for a mod opening the thread is? he can delete post? is it?

he can do that if a normal user open it too am i rite?


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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Apr 2 2009, 01:07 PM)
Well if it's pin pointed that kopitiam is the root of all evil just shut it down. I'll remember meeting a bunch of friends from my days there. I don't how was this sub looks like since I'm relatively new, may be it was better when kopitiam wasn't around.

Gamers should just talk about games, so be it.
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Blame the kopitiam laa..it's easier. thumbup.gif

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post Apr 2 2009, 01:20 PM

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Well, to be honest Kopitiam back then wasn't all that different from now, just that there was waaay less chatter, less t&a and pointless one liners.

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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Apr 2 2009, 01:08 PM)
and the difference for a mod opening the thread is? he can delete post? is it?

he can do that if a normal user open it too am i rite?


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Blame the kopitiam laa..it's easier.  thumbup.gif
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Phoenix let me clarify first, I am not targeting you or going against you. it jsut so happen you opened the last thread. So no harm meant.

But seriously, Why are you awake at 5.30am on a sunday morning?
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post Apr 2 2009, 02:13 PM

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Chill Chill people

It's better off for you all to come up with a solution on how to re-arrange the hub than wasting all your ammo on Kopitiam thread, aight?

I'm still browsing through pinned topics at the moment, so not going to say anything yet.

But we are severely lacking good game reviews for a game based subforum.
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Alright, I don't know how you all mananged to drag the Kopitiam into this debate. But the problem lies on the forumers, not the Kopitiam itself.

QUOTE(Mudmaniac @ Apr 1 2009, 06:09 PM)
Ok. friend codes stay. I do want some method of trash collection tho. Once people quit caring about their codes i would very much rather delete it. than let it clog there. And let merge DS and Wii.

Piracy threads are a sign of the times. People stress gila right now like you would not believe. More people are broke now than there have been in a long time. I used to take the time to write nice personalized haiku's warning people about pirate talk, but i've run outta witty phrases.
Games related is going to depend on you guys as a community. reviews and screenshots of new games are always going to be welcome here. I think that personal experiences with games are a plus as well. Its not something i can do much since the Wii I bought was a gift to my brother-in-law, my mom is playing Brain Age on my DS, and Steam has been having an awful lot of super mega discounts like you would not believe. (Assassin's Creed USD9.99 for one day only last week)
And for the the "Recommend games to me" threads. the way i see it, 100 people coming around to the Nintendo thread, maybe 5 will stick around for good. Kick around people that ask newb questions, you wont see anyone besides trolls roaming these here parts. Forum is an open exchange. that unfortunately means answering the same question many many times. sometimes, in the same day. its tiring, but i think its a better alternative to a bunch of elitist pricks telling "GTFO NEWB LOLZ"
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Alright maybe we should do it the same way as the CoC thread and refresh it every month, and people can just copy and paste the FCs from the previous thread into the new one.

I'm afraid I can do much about games related threads either. I might not be buying (or playing) any new DS games for the rest of this year, so it's hard for me to get excited about new releases.

Most non-regulars do not bother going beyond the 2nd page of the forum for games discussion. So a couple of "Recommend games to me" threads occupying the front page is a problem. Why these threads are allowed to stay when it doesn't suppose to exist anyway? And one thing about this kind of threads is that someone will always bump it after a month or two, when the original TS no longer visit this subforum anymore. I would prefer saying congrats to the TS for buying a new Nintendo console/ handheld then pointing them NICELY to a more suitable thread, or letting the threads open for a day or two before asking it to be closed.

Do you know why the other console subforums have a more active discussions on games? First they have a sizable community that buys original games, and the other is their chat threads are located in the main Console Couch where the post count are ENABLED for some weird reason. Have you ever step inside one of the Console Couch threads yet? Even a simple question can be filled with horrendous amounts of pure spam, yet no one have the guts to take action since it's pretty much "mobs rule" around there.

Before the Kopitiam was created, there's a problem on too many off topic posts in various threads. It's pretty much a chicken and egg problem here. Do you choose to have a chat threads for the the regulars to post their non-Nintendo related posts, or abolish it to see them leaving the community, or even worse posting off-topic posts in other threads like the problem we had before the creation of Kopitiam.

Is the Kopitiam taking away valuble post from other more "deserving" games threads? Well maybe a little, but I can see more discussion on 360 and PS3 than Wii/ DS in it which is pretty ironic.
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READ

QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 12:18 PM)
Lets start from the top

First the over littering of pinned threads.
FAQ Thread - Retain FAQ but add a Q & A section at the end that will cleaned out by the end of the month.
Friend Code Thread - Poster can list the game they have without the code, other forumer that want to exchange FC can PM the poster directly. (taking a leaf out of Mud's book)
Upcoming Game release Thread - Redundant. They can check it at gamefaqs.com. Delete it
Chamber of Commerce - Can be retained but again, redundant. We have a Garage Sales thread specifically selling games. Why put another copy where? You confuses people.
Read Me First Thread - same as FAQ thread. Redundant
Meet-up Thread - Delete all the redundant post. Retain all the stuff that matters only
More Mods - I propose PM to mod. He is here all the time, he doesnt do hammer of justice on new guys. He actually does what he says (playing ori only) and who else is more dedicated to Nintendo then him?
Rewriting entire FAQ - Waste of time, the existing one is already there. New writer can just take that and improve on it.

Kopitiam is the most active thread because ppl try their best to be spammer king. WTF for? I disagree with the fact that kopitiam should be removed but I would propose that every new Kopitiam thread will be opened by the Mod, this will reduce ppl posting more post just so they can have the honor of being the first to open a new Kopitiam thread. get a life.

Zero Piracy Tolerance Policy? You might as well take a gun to the LYN server and shoot it. Piracy exist, live with it. Zero tolerance makes you a Punisher. Never a good thing when there is scarely enough people in this forum. I am not saying you should turn a blind eye on it, but it would be better if you tolerate it but try to steer them towards the light.

Many topics that are started here are non-kopitiam regular. Do you know why? If i were to post a question in kopitiam, immediately one person will answer with a vague answer and then the rest of them ignore it. or, the question is ignored totally. Hence the proposal that FAQ thread is use as a Q & A Thread. It will be better. Point them there everytime they start a thread. report the newly opened thread. and then answer the question there.
Edit: I am willing to keep a look out at the FAQ thread still, if you want new stuff added in. PM me. Do not post it somewhere randomly in kopitiam in the thread and expect me to do it. I am sorry. I have a life.  so if you want something done, PM me, PM the respective related ppl.  But dont TCSS.
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post Apr 2 2009, 02:47 PM

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Well the very reason I play game is for fun and enjoyment, and live happy with it. Naturally I would expect to carry on the same mood into this forum as a gamer myself. But it seems like gaming forum should be serious, leave the fun and enjoyment elsewhere, and especially social life elsewhere. To be honest I'm very unhappy with rev's statement calling most of us "no life". You may have living a different life and have very different opinion, but it doesn't that the rest of us are losers with no lives just because we can't live the way you want. Please refrain from insulting others, this will only lead to more troubles.
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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 01:26 PM)
Phoenix let me clarify first, I am not targeting you or going against you. it jsut so happen you opened the last thread. So no harm meant.

But seriously, Why are you awake at 5.30am on a sunday morning?
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i'm not going against u either..i just want to know what difference does it make? if a normal user opens up a thread..the mod can still monitor n edit the content...it's the same if the mod himself open it. I still didn't see the difference.

Why am I up? U shud ask that in the kopitiam thread happy.gif but if it bugs u that much just so u know it's close to prayer time for most muslim and i do wake up early and i dun sleep in even on weekends. So given or not it's sunday or any day for that matter..that is the normal time for me. Of course after that I go out n hv a normal life (if that still bug u)
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Apr 2 2009, 02:47 PM)
Well the very reason I play game is for fun and enjoyment, and live happy with it. Naturally I would expect to carry on the same mood into this forum as a gamer myself. But it seems like gaming forum should be serious, leave the fun and enjoyment elsewhere, and especially social life elsewhere. To be honest I'm very unhappy with rev's statement calling most of us "no life". You may have living a different life and have very different opinion, but it doesn't that the rest of us are losers with no lives just because we can't live the way you want. Please refrain from insulting others, this will only lead to more troubles.
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You are taking what i say out of context and quite personally. Here let me explain.

I have NEVER advocate the closing of kopitiam forever. I merely advocated the fact that Mod should control the opening of new thread every few days for kopitiam in an effort to reduce spam. Best way of doing this is for mod itself to open the said thread.
Taking back what YOU said, i have NEVER said you guys are LOSERS with NO LIVES. I merey said, GET A LIFE. I apologize for making that insulting to you. but again, i never said you guys are loser. so do not to take it as so.

Putting that aside, playing game for fun and enjoyment is the right thing to do. But if a community is closely tied together and being an
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elitist pricks telling "GTFO NEWB LOLZ"
or setting an impression of so is not going to help expand the community itself.


QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Apr 2 2009, 02:47 PM)
i'm not going against u either..i just want to know what difference does it make? if a normal user opens up a thread..the mod can still monitor n edit the content...it's the same if the mod himself open it. I still didn't see the difference.

Why am I up? U shud ask that in the kopitiam thread happy.gif but if it bugs u that much just so u know it's close to prayer time for most muslim and i do wake up early and i dun sleep in even on weekends. So given or not it's sunday or any day for that matter..that is the normal time for me. Of course after that I go out n hv a normal life (if that still bug u)
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Phoenix. I apologize for asking about the 5.30 waking up. Its tactless of me. I am sorry.

Mod opening the thread, will reduce the rush of everyone trying to spam more in an effort to reach 2500 post so that the thread can be closed and another person can open a new kopitiam thread. This will reduce the flux of spaming in the kopitiam thread which in turn contribute more to greater discussion instead of one liner, spasm and what not.

If only a mod can open kopitiam thread, the need for everyone else to fill up the thread will be tremendously reduced. That again in turn will make the kopitiam thread less baseless.

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You know better what you were trying to imply by your statement "I have a life". And you think the root problem is "GTFO NEWB LOLZ"? Well to be honest I hardly if ever see those happening. And kopitiam regulars doing that is even more rare. I still remember the last time we had a heated debate, and I made you pissed but you didn't know that the TS was breaking the R&R by posting a download site. It wasn't "GTFO NEWB LOLZ" as you thought, but it's useless since that's the image that I have given you.
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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 02:57 PM)
Mod opening the thread, will reduce the rush of everyone trying to spam more in an effort to reach 2500 post so that the thread can be closed and another person can open a new kopitiam thread. This will reduce the flux of spaming in the kopitiam thread which in turn contribute more to greater discussion instead of one liner, spasm and what not.

If only a mod can open kopitiam thread, the need for everyone else to fill up the thread will be tremendously reduced. That again in turn will make the kopitiam thread less baseless.
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actually, the kopitiam does not to be close whatsoever regardless of the post counts. The way i see it, we create new kopitiam threads so that it wouldn't seem as though it is the most active thread around. I actually dunno who put the cap on 120 pages for a thread to be locked. It can stay open for all we care n we can use the same thread over n over again.

Just as i mentioned before...we dun care about post counts in nintendo kopitiam coz the post count really doesn't mean anything to most of us.

p/s: i dun mind u asking about the 5.30 thingy but still...other ppl hv different lifestyle. who knows some of them are batman in real life. icon_rolleyes.gif
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reveur: You have a talent at picking at the loose threads of people. I have to point one out to you.

What happen to the FAQ? I originally told you that an DS FAQ was an unnecessary piece of clutter requiring a lot of consistent work and research. It would also imply that should you want to leave it be then someone is just gonna complain about it somewhere down the line.

To me.


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 2 2009, 01:20 PM)
Well, to be honest Kopitiam back then wasn't all that different from now, just that there was waaay less chatter, less t&a and pointless one liners.
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seriously, sometimes it gets like twitter. in there. with equally deep undecipherable lingo.



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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Apr 2 2009, 03:05 PM)
You know better what you were trying to imply by your statement "I have a life". And you think the root problem is "GTFO NEWB LOLZ"? Well to be honest I hardly if ever see those happening. And kopitiam regulars doing that is even more rare. I still remember the last time we had a heated debate, and I made you pissed but you didn't know that the TS was breaking the R&R by posting a download site. It wasn't "GTFO NEWB LOLZ" as you thought, but it's useless since that's the image that I have given you.
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See? There you go taking things out of context and assuming things. I said. Get a Life. The root problem is everyone going in with hammer of justice.
One other thing, I dont remember being pissed when we had a debate the other time but thats out of topic. And no, the TS was not breaking the R & R by posting a download site. He merely stated something ( i dont remember what) but others said its a download site.
And no, I do not have any image of you, ppl that know me will know that i made an argument for a sake of an argument not because of one person or another. So i have nothing against you. You though might have something against me.


QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Apr 2 2009, 03:06 PM)
actually, the kopitiam does not to be close whatsoever regardless of the post counts. The way i see it, we create new kopitiam threads so that it wouldn't seem as though it is the most active thread around. I actually dunno who put the cap on 120 pages for a thread to be locked. It can stay open for all we care n we can use the same thread over n over again.

Just as i mentioned before...we dun care about post counts in nintendo kopitiam coz the post count really doesn't mean anything to most of us.

p/s: i dun mind u asking about the 5.30 thingy but still...other ppl hv different lifestyle. who knows some of them are batman in real life.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The 2500 thing was started somewhere in Nin Kopitiam thread 10, it was mentioned that the thread will start to miss post when its over certain post coutn. From then on, there was a race to fill up the kopitiam thread and see who can make the next new thread. I believe sihum was the one that mentioned that. Again, I could be wrong.


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actually the 2500 posts cap doesnt exist here, i remember seeing the same restriction at other threads.
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post Apr 2 2009, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 03:14 PM)
The 2500 thing was started somewhere in Nin Kopitiam thread 10, it was mentioned that the thread will start to miss post when its over certain post coutn. From then on, there was a race to fill up the kopitiam thread and see who can make the next new thread. I believe sihum was the one that mentioned that. Again, I could be wrong.
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i dun see that race nowadays..we're just opening it out of need for a new version coz of the limit. We dun care if the same person keeps opening it just as long as it is there.

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