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 WAY TOO MUCH THREAD IN NINTENDO, Please comment

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post Apr 2 2009, 03:22 PM

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My apology if I took your words out of context again notworthy.gif Well I don't know you well, since I hardly see you around and I wasn't here back then. Anyway we have to agree to disagree, you see the problem from "GTFO NEWB LOLZ" and I see it from piracy, like madmoz has experienced. You can disagree with my zero piracy tolerance policy, but then I also think that mod opening the kopitiam won't solve anything either. That's just my honest opinion, but then I could be wrong. Anyway, I hope we can be friends, just like anyone else I meet from here, real life or virtual life smile.gif

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post Apr 2 2009, 03:28 PM

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post Apr 2 2009, 03:34 PM

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Alright, you all should focus more at the issue at hand rather than dragging out the old ones.

For the pinned threads, I would prefer the new ones to be as maintainance-free as possible for the sake of the moderators.
QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 12:18 PM)
Lets start from the top

First the over littering of pinned threads.
FAQ Thread - Retain FAQ but add a Q & A section at the end that will cleaned out by the end of the month.
Friend Code Thread - Poster can list the game they have without the code, other forumer that want to exchange FC can PM the poster directly. (taking a leaf out of Mud's book)
Upcoming Game release Thread - Redundant. They can check it at gamefaqs.com. Delete it
Chamber of Commerce - Can be retained but again, redundant. We have a Garage Sales thread specifically selling games. Why put another copy where? You confuses people.
Read Me First Thread - same as FAQ thread. Redundant
Meet-up Thread - Delete all the redundant post. Retain all the stuff that matters only
More Mods - I propose PM to mod. He is here all the time, he doesnt do hammer of justice on new guys. He actually does what he says (playing ori only) and who else is more dedicated to Nintendo then him?
Rewriting entire FAQ - Waste of time, the existing one is already there. New writer can just take that and improve on it.
Kopitiam is the most active thread because ppl try their best to be spammer king. WTF for? I disagree with the fact that kopitiam should be removed but I would propose that every new Kopitiam thread will be opened by the Mod, this will reduce ppl posting more post just so they can have the honor of being the first to open a new Kopitiam thread. get a life.
Zero Piracy Tolerance Policy? You might as well take a gun to the LYN server and shoot it. Piracy exist, live with it. Zero tolerance makes you a Punisher. Never a good thing when there is scarely enough people in this forum. I am not saying you should turn a blind eye on it, but it would be better if you tolerate it but try to steer them towards the light.

Many topics that are started here are non-kopitiam regular. Do you know why? If i were to post a question in kopitiam, immediately one person will answer with a vague answer and then the rest of them ignore it. or, the question is ignored totally. Hence the proposal that FAQ thread is use as a Q & A Thread. It will be better. Point them there everytime they start a thread. report the newly opened thread. and then answer the question there.
Edit: I am willing to keep a look out at the FAQ thread still, if you want new stuff added in. PM me. Do not post it somewhere randomly in kopitiam in the thread and expect me to do it. I am sorry. I have a life.  so if you want something done, PM me, PM the respective related ppl.  But dont TCSS.
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Friend Code Thread
- As I said before, this thread is only facilitating the storage of members' FCs for easy copying and pasting. No one likes to turn on their Wii/ DS and memorize the 12 digit code everytime they want to exchange it with someone.
Chamber of Commerce
- It's easier to search/ browse for Nintendo related stuff here rather than Garage Sales IMHO (even with the tag filtering and all that).
Meet-up Thread
- Seriously, I don't see the need of a cleanup other than increasing the workload for the mods. The meetup is a social gathering for LYN DS owners, so why erase all the fun memories we have posted in that thread?
Rewriting entire FAQ
- I don't think now is a good time to do anything about the FAQ since the DSi has just launched. But you're right, the new one should improve on the existing information posted in the old FAQ.
Zero Piracy Tolerance Policy
- I found that every time there's a piracy related post/ thread being created, people will just either "a. participate in more piracy discussions" or "b. flaming the hell out of the poster for being a piratefag". But either way the "Report" button is rarely used.
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post Apr 2 2009, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Mudmaniac @ Apr 2 2009, 03:09 PM)
reveur: You have a talent at picking at the loose threads of people. I have to point one out to you.

What happen to the FAQ? I originally told you that an DS FAQ was an unnecessary piece of clutter requiring a lot of consistent work and research. It would also imply that should you want to leave it be then someone is just gonna complain about it somewhere down the line.

To me.


Added on April 2, 2009, 3:14 pm

seriously, sometimes it gets like twitter. in there. with equally deep undecipherable lingo.
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Tak faham the bolded part sad.gif

What happened to the FAQ? the one posted was what you requested what.. I do rememeber you telling me that, and i do remember (its actually in this thread) that you told me to rewrite the whole crap to be more informative. and do a bit of plagarism. Did that already mar....


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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 03:49 PM)
Tak faham the bolded part sad.gif

What happened to the FAQ? the one posted was what you requested what.. I do rememeber you telling me that, and i do remember (its actually in this thread) that you told me to rewrite the whole crap to be more informative. and do a bit of plagarism. Did that already mar....
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So its a 1 off job? nothing else?
Might as well have not bothered in the first place.

Or at least hand it off to someone else when you were done.




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post Apr 2 2009, 03:53 PM

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I offered to hand it off to anyone that wanted to make it more complete or fill up the blank. No one took up the offer.

And no, its not a one off job. I consistently update it during the first few month. Then it fizzled out. I did not get any pm regarding the need to update it, add more information or what not.

The last person that asked me to add in information to the FAQ was Penman after he updated an extensive part in regard about USB dongle
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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 03:53 PM)
I offered to hand it off to anyone that wanted to make it more complete or fill up the blank. No one took up the offer.

And no, its not a one off job. I consistently update it during the first few month. Then it fizzled out. I did not get any pm regarding the need to update it, add more information or what not.

The last person that asked me to add in information to the FAQ was Penman after he updated an extensive part in regard about USB dongle
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One PM to me and I woulda closed the thread. Reduced the clutter.


and yeah. bolded means you find fault with people blaming them for the sorry state of things. and perpetuate an argument that has nothing to do with finding a solution.


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QUOTE(Mudmaniac @ Apr 2 2009, 03:59 PM)
One PM to me and I woulda closed the thread. Reduced the clutter.
and yeah. bolded means you find fault with people blaming them for the sorry state of things. and perpetuate an argument that has nothing to do with finding a solution.
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Ouch.

I did find a solution. Granted the solution given by me perpetuated an argument which followed.
And did I find blame with ppl for the sorry state of things? Hmmm... I might have but I feel i did not.

I shall ask for suggestion from you on pm. Hold that thought.

What about my suggestions on abolishing the redundant thread?

Personally i felt the DS FAQ and Wii FAQ thread should be kept although i am not sure of the merit of that. Considering I don't read it.


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Phoenix: You and rev are doing are saying near to nothing about fixing this sub-forum. If you have a beef with him challenging your honor then go do it somewhere else.


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post Apr 2 2009, 04:05 PM

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Anyhow, some solutions has been proposed as for now, perhaps time to start with some of them?
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Could we make a showoff thread of the games and consoles we buy that are strictly DS and Wii related? because I think we have too many confusion with the Nintendo DS thread and Faq for DS thread. I'm a little tired of answering questions when it should be at the right place.
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QUOTE(reveur @ Apr 2 2009, 04:04 PM)
Ouch.

I did find a solution. Granted the solution given by me perpetuated an argument which followed.
And did I find blame with ppl for the sorry state of things? Hmmm... I might have but I feel i did not.

I shall ask for suggestion from you on pm. Hold that thought.

What about my suggestions on abolishing the redundant thread?

Personally i felt the DS FAQ and Wii FAQ thread should be kept although i am not sure of the merit of that. Considering I don't read it.
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I don't make many suggestions. and all my suggestions i put forth to everyone. and all my suggestions on this have already been made. read backwards.

Mostly, its because I rather be seen as not giving a damn (which is sometimes true), rather than a control freak (which unfortunately happens anyways).




QUOTE(feyhime @ Apr 2 2009, 04:05 PM)
Anyhow, some solutions has been proposed as for now, perhaps time to start with some of them?
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Yes. I agree. Lets look at Prime's and Reveur's suggestions, and give constructive input here. If you want even more info to work with. i may have put in my 2 cents as well.
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QUOTE(Mudmaniac @ Apr 2 2009, 04:05 PM)
Phoenix: You and rev are doing are saying near to nothing about fixing this sub-forum. If you have a beef with him challenging your honor then go do it somewhere else.
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i tot i stopped already.
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Apr 2 2009, 03:28 PM)
Gundam,
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I'm sorry, its only been a hour. sometimes i get confused.

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post Apr 2 2009, 04:31 PM

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Perhaps we can start with the Friend Code first. There's two at the moment, which is really quite redundant. We can go by what you (Mud) already suggested earlier, one post per member only. For easier tracking, I'll recommend having forumers link their FC's post in their own signatures, it'll also make updating less hassle if they can just access it from sig?

Ex:

NDS/NDSL/NDSLi

Game Tittle [FC CODE]

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Wii

Game Tittle [FC CODE]

TBC still going through stuff


Added on April 2, 2009, 4:40 pmRead Me First Please need to either be Updated (after we are done with the overhaul so that links will be properly sorted) OR scrapped off.

IMHO

It's also time for us to actually start having proper reviews by those who already complete/in the middle of completing (return to update the review when you are done) any game tittle. I noticed we have none of such thing and game talks are mostly bits and parcels with very little value.

Having a thread with Upcoming Tittle along with Review Booking might work? Once a new game is in the slots, interested gamers can start booking review slots. They'll have ample time to research the games, grab screenshots (remember credits please) and of course buy the game.

Then we'll have an Official LYN Nintendo Review Thread (or whatever fancy name you like) and compile all these reviews there. One post per game, reviewers to PM mod their review in posting format and mod to attach (too much work? other solutions?).

But I am just mulling over, I am not here for long, am not sure if it will even work.


back to continue looking at other suggestions.

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Wow, feyhime's idea is great too. smile.gif
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post Apr 2 2009, 04:47 PM

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The idea is good, but it's not as easy to implement. Like I said, people tend to appreciate a game less with a "free" copy, which is something not happening that often on the other 2 subs. Of course, it will do no harm in trying, may be I'm wrong again tongue.gif But I'll not participate in such program, not because I don't want to contribute, but I have difficulty getting the games while they are still hot sad.gif

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QUOTE(feyhime @ Apr 2 2009, 04:31 PM)
Perhaps we can start with the Friend Code first. There's two at the moment, which is really quite redundant. We can go by what you (Mud) already suggested earlier, one post per member only. For easier tracking, I'll recommend having forumers link their FC's post in their own signatures, it'll also make updating less hassle if they can just access it from sig?

Ex:

NDS/NDSL/NDSLi

Game Tittle [FC CODE]

----------------------------

Wii

Game Tittle [FC CODE]

TBC still going through stuff


Added on April 2, 2009, 4:40 pmRead Me First Please need to either be Updated (after we are done with the overhaul so that links will be properly sorted) OR scrapped off.

IMHO

It's also time for us to actually start having proper reviews by those who already complete/in the middle of completing (return to update the review when you are done) any game tittle. I noticed we have none of such thing and game talks are mostly bits and parcels with very little value.

Having a thread with Upcoming Tittle along with Review Booking might work? Once a new game is in the slots, interested gamers can start booking review slots. They'll have ample time to research the games, grab screenshots (remember credits please) and of course buy the game.

Then we'll have an Official LYN Nintendo Review Thread (or whatever fancy name you like) and compile all these reviews there. One post per game, reviewers to PM mod their review in posting format and mod to attach (too much work? other solutions?).


But I am just mulling over, I am not here for long, am not sure if it will even work.
back to continue looking at other suggestions.
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I had actually done that before but the thread died out as there was not much support to post reviews.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=482945&hl=

there u go

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I'm sorry to come out with no solution again notworthy.gif The reason why that thread was redundant was because there are many "professional" reviewers in the net, and we know the general Malaysian mentality of worshiping idols. Plus there are "free" games readily available, or in the case of Wii, "cheap" games, people would rather try the games themselves. Of course for games discussions there are already threads that talk about the games themselves, so people who are playing that game will go there naturally.
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IMHO we can hv people review games that they hv played in a specific game thread...we just dun need to ask where they got them. Coz sometimes i see there's ppl opening a thread saying how awesome a game is but then someone comes in and say 'eh..it's out already aa?'

After that, the thread dies.

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