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 Proton Prevé V23, Livin la vida loca

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post Jul 16 2019, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Jul 16 2019, 03:20 PM)
So just done service at COSE, mine is batch 2013, not entitle to do CVT damper replacement according to them. Sad story and feel very suck to how Proton handling this kind of case.
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no le. perhaps the damper from 2012-2013 is different from 2014-2018.. and also this recall is for the cvt gearbox (blue tag). thst day i went for normal service, and the damper things is popup as "service fix" when they enter the car details.

+ my warranty expired aldy one.
+ no service book, [2nd hand]

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post Jul 16 2019, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Jul 16 2019, 08:16 PM)
This is 3rd time I asked SC about this. They all act this thing nvr exist... One of them is CoSE.
What can I do?
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cose earlier of this year i got ask at the SA and also proton facebook, where they confirm have cvt dampar recall for my chassis. That time the recall is not popup Automatically, they just said “wait for call”.. in the end nobody call.

then on recent service visit, the SA directly told me got the campaign for cvt damper for my chassis... and i didnt even mention the damper things at all when greeted by the SA. so it appear like its being automatically added to.

so, you can try message proton facebook on the damper thing n gave them all the details when requested.

if really didn‘t have, then perhaps your current damper design is not affected one. I saw most is 2014 - 2017 preve, suprima & exora [cfe/turbo]
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post Jul 17 2019, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Jul 17 2019, 11:29 AM)
i got my damper replaced under the watever recall/improvement program
when i went to pickup my ride yesterday, i felt excessive vibration on my steering the moment i start my car.

so i turn off and went back in to SC and left my car for a few more days as i need to go outstation. the thing here is...

1. I knew there are some facing the same issue in this forum where the engine mounting needs to be replaced after the damper replacement. Any1 mind to explain why? SA failed to giv me a clear explanation on this
2. the damper+flywheel is a new design and weight is lighter compared to old 1. can weight difference cause severe vibration?
3. my ride is 5yrs+, i would assume engine mounting started to wear off, thus unable to absorb vibration from the engine due to difference in weight?

SA going to charge me RM39x.xx for engine mounting... T__T
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ohhh.. if at cose, the SA will ask to replace the mounting in one go. so that no need to come again to replace the mounting.

but might be there is some sc didnt put in togetger ...some other want to save cost and didnt replace it, end up getting bad vobration after job finished.

From what i read, the sc didnt properly support the weight of the engine or gb during the process, which might have twist a little bit on the mounting causing it broken.
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post Jul 17 2019, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Jul 17 2019, 03:46 PM)
in this case, how can we argue with them that they are the 1 causing the fault of engine mounting?
seems abit unfair for customer. i sent my car in last week with no steering vibration
went in to collect with very bad vibration
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yeah.. it happends all the time.. so now their procedure is to add in the engine n gb mounting.


got heard some one last time argue with sc n then sc waive the labor for mounting amd only pay for the mounting.
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post Jul 17 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Jul 17 2019, 07:41 PM)
Proton FB replied my batch doesn't need to replace CVT Damper....April 2013
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well.. then its not affected... perhaps your gearbox now is very long lasting compare to those 2014-2018 (before they replace the damper)
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post Jul 18 2019, 08:07 PM

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ok. a little sharing on the experience using the new damper & flywheel.

Today just took back the car (actually yesterday morning done aldy).

I doesn't feel anymore the jerkingness/shock (sentapan) when accelerate the car from standstill. and no more such jerking/sentapan feel at low rpm speed (like those in stand still traffic) - this one i suspect with the ocv, but turn out its from the damper n flywheel.

overall, acceleration from standstill is very smooth.. basically can’t feel any shock at all.

and got tested press the pedal to floor for immediate acceleration. still impressive like using old damper & flywheel.

So, for me its a very +++ things done by proton la.
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post Jul 19 2019, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Jul 19 2019, 02:42 PM)
jealous ni~
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CONS:

the power cames in very linear way,

previously when fully press pedal, can feel immediately the body stick to the seat.. but now.. that feeling reduced a lot already.
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post Jul 19 2019, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Jul 19 2019, 06:17 PM)
If can prevent cvt kong early, this might worth so.
Mind to share your car's manufacturer year?
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July 2014, using "Turbo" logo instead of CFE. and engine cover also using "turbo"logo. gearbox blue tag, part number corresponding to cvt3+
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post Jul 20 2019, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(engtat @ Jul 20 2019, 07:42 AM)
Driving 2012 CVT, was in rush this morning and forgot to turn off headlight.

Came back after 1 hour and noticed the LED light still on but headlight is off, only remember forgot to switch off. Worried about battery gone.

Luckily can start the car. Didn't aware of this auto headlight off, usually how long the light will off if forgot to switch off? Not turbo variant.
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the system will sound buzzer if you switch engine off while headlamp is still on. if i not mistaken someone got mentioned, the map light amd room light will auto switch off after 20 minutes. so i think it applied to headlamp as well.
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post Jul 20 2019, 08:43 PM

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today open the engine hood and see.. suprisingly.. cose carwash people help me clean the engine compartment..

the engine cover all shinny, lamp housing also shinny.

and my gearbox outer got fungus like infection previous... now didnt see anymore, got some mark that i dont recognize.. dunno if they swap the gearbox with other car or what. hahahaha.
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post Jul 26 2019, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 25 2019, 11:32 AM)
Looks like my 2019 car will be arriving soon. My first Turbo car. Looking to learn lots from you guys
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welcome welcome.

can you take a photo of your car rear side (turbo logo) there..

coz.. nowadays when i driving i didnt saw the refinement model with "handling by lotus" black logo sticker anymore..

but today when walking around saw one refinenent with handling by lotus logo (but its almost invisible, and not in black color like previous), so was wondering they change the logo design aldy?
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post Jul 26 2019, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 26 2019, 07:23 PM)
Can, once I get the car. Most probably next week
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post Jul 28 2019, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jul 28 2019, 10:10 AM)
My Preve CFE is having intermittent difficulty to start after parking for between 30 mins and 2 hours, ie: in warm condition.  It may need to crank up to 5 seconds or more and sometimes more than 1 cranking.  I used to have this problem once in a while since 2 years ago but it's getting more frequently lately.  Morning starts (when cold) are normal. 

My spark plugs are original since 4 years ago, but my present mileage is only about 19,000 km.  This morning, I had removed the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor (BOSCH P/N: 0261230283) for cleaning although it doesn't seem to be dirty.  I'll continue to monitor the situation again.

Would appreciate if any brothers here had this problem before and can recommend some suggestions or suspected faults.
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yeah.. i face it occassionally. they said check the clamp on battery. and thry got said campro engine sometime dunno why will lost compression one which causing it hard to crakck start.. dunno why.. random occur.
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post Jul 28 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jul 28 2019, 01:28 PM)
I tell you, many of those technicians in the PROTON SC are bull-shit.  Previously 1 SC had told me that the inability to shift the gear from "P" to "N" problem is caused by a weak battery.  They then used an auxiliary battery to connect in parallel to my battery and it had worked, which I would say is coincidental since this problem is intermittent.

I don't buy their reasoning because how can you tell me it's a battery problem when the vehicle had just been driven for more than 45 minutes and even a weak battery would still be able to hold the charge during this short interim period of shutting down the engine.  Finally, another SC then told me that it's due to the intermittent brake switch failure, which makes sense to me.  However, the brake lights were working normally each time.  Only upon dismantling the brake switch by myself, I then found out that it's a 4-terminal (wired) switch and therefore, 2 terminals will be for the brake lights whilst the other 2 terminals should be for the solenoid to release the gear from "P" to "N".
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wow.. thanks for the sharing. actually for my car bought second hand. on the previous service record when car was owned by COSE, the brake switch has been replaced twice. luckly since i owned the car till now no issue related to brake switch occur yet.

And i heard recently there is new improved version of the brake switch got came out. Think better I buy a brake switch for spare in case if it occurs during outstation.
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post Jul 30 2019, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 30 2019, 10:23 AM)
Don't see any Lotus handling logo anymore
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owhhh..so they really didnt put the "handling by lotus" logo anymore.. perhaps after proton sold to geely.... now they call it as "handling by proton" if i not mistaken.
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post Jul 30 2019, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 30 2019, 10:23 AM)
Don't see any Lotus handling logo anymore
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BTW... enjoy the turbo.

hehehehe. once goes turbo never return to NA.
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post Jul 31 2019, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 31 2019, 10:28 AM)
Still less than 200km on the clock...will take some time to run it in properly
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post Sep 17 2019, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Sep 17 2019, 11:55 AM)
Hi, would appreciate if any Preve Turbo owners in JB who can recommend a knowledgeable and reliable workshop in JB?  Thanks in advance.

I would like to diagnose my (occasional) difficult to start problem.  I saw on the Prevoc Facebook that 1 owner also has this problem and went to the PROTON SC, and they "suspect" it could be the Turbo problem and will cost RM5k to replace.  I don't buy this reasoning because my car's mileage is only about 19,000 km, although it is 4½ years old.

Just last Friday, I went to change my battery at a neighborhood shop.  1 of their mechanics who is driving a Preve also encounters this problem.  I asked him what he does to it, but he said just leave it as it is since the car will still eventually get started after the 2nd or 3rd cranking.
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i also got hard cranking problem. howevr mine is different from yours.

mine is occur oerhaps once every 2-3 months, the cranking will take a quite long time 3-4 seconds before engine started..



yours one.. might be related to purge canister valve.
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post Sep 17 2019, 09:57 PM

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yeah. zordaq motorsport should be able to solve ypur problem

if in kl can find Drex Chan, Zainuddin Jasman or dunia auto garage, etc etc. if you are in the FB group. much more easy to find the otai who are very familier with preve
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post Sep 18 2019, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(MythicalCharizard @ Sep 18 2019, 07:50 AM)
My Preve 2019 4,000km mileage also got hard to start issue at least once a week (need 3-4 sec cracking only can start). I used the 3 way start method as well. Anyone know how to solve?
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actually.. i believe its related to campro engine itself. sometime.. it will randomly lost compression (perhaps carbon built up neae the valve?). I think after few turns of the shaft, the sealing become ok hence the engine started??

as I heard campro is quite famous for lost compression.

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