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post Aug 5 2015, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 07:01 PM)
Worst bro.go check on philip news.zzz.lazy explain.i am using opple.go google opple.com n check.hardly u can get opple here
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Why worst? Are you saying Giant selling fake Phillips and Osram LED bulbs ? You want to share your knowledge in LED lightings but you lazy to explain doh.gif ? Why branded Phillips LED driver gets hot but your Opple LED's driver won't get heated up??
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post Aug 5 2015, 08:06 PM

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If u got the knowledge pls share lah.. help to give solutions to the TS problem. Dun just come just to sell product.
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post Aug 5 2015, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Aug 5 2015, 04:07 PM)
I just got my new meter on 3 August 2015. They came at about 1pm and took about 5 mins to install. So far, I am happy as from what I have recorded, I have only used up 28kwh from 3/8/2015 at 1pm to 5/8/2015 up to this morning 7am. that is a solid 42 hours of usage. With my old meter, this was the consumption recorded from 7pm to 7am!!!

As for the compensation, I checked with tnb via phone and also to the person who changed my meter, they said the same thing, tnb will credit my account. not too sure how they will do that though.
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Try get refund from tnb.
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post Aug 5 2015, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 5 2015, 08:19 PM)
Try get refund from tnb.
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I did try asking for a refund, but both the person on the phone and the guy who came to change my meter said that TNB will credit my bill as it is not their policy to refund.
I have no idea how they will credit my bill or re-calculate my bill. I am also curious cause I paid a lot of cash the last 3 months.
Most probably I will wait and see and maybe, after having recorded my usage for a month and no credit to my bill, then I will write to tnb. see how it goes.
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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Aug 5 2015, 08:24 PM)
I did try asking for a refund, but both the person on the phone and the guy who came to change my meter said that TNB will credit my bill as it is not their policy to refund.
I have no idea how they will credit my bill or re-calculate my bill. I am also curious cause I paid a lot of cash the last 3 months.
Most probably I will wait and see and maybe, after having recorded my usage for a month and no credit to my bill, then I will write to tnb. see how it goes.
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Most important, you have all the payment history. And after few months nothing happen, go back tnb give them your earlier case number and your bill payment history. And insit of credit back.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 5 2015, 08:29 PM)
Most important, you have all the payment history. And after few months nothing happen, go back tnb give them your earlier case number and your bill payment history. And insit of credit back.
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Noted. I have kept a daily record of my electricity usage since my first posting. now will keep a record of the new meter as proof.

If not credit by the end of the next billing cycle, then I will start writing letters to tnb and insist on the credit or some form of reimbursement.
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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Aug 5 2015, 08:33 PM)
Noted. I have kept a daily record of my electricity usage since my first posting. now will keep a record of the new meter as proof.

If not credit by the end of the next billing cycle, then I will start writing letters to tnb and insist on the credit or some form of reimbursement.
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From my experience they may need 1 to 2 cycle of billing before credit.
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post Aug 5 2015, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Aug 5 2015, 08:24 PM)
I did try asking for a refund, but both the person on the phone and the guy who came to change my meter said that TNB will credit my bill as it is not their policy to refund.
I have no idea how they will credit my bill or re-calculate my bill. I am also curious cause I paid a lot of cash the last 3 months.
Most probably I will wait and see and maybe, after having recorded my usage for a month and no credit to my bill, then I will write to tnb. see how it goes.
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TNB will work out the credit for you after they get the next reading. It is best that you use as little as possible after the meter change. If you use more, they will charge you the same amount for the previous months. If you use less, they will charge you less for the previous months.
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post Aug 5 2015, 08:53 PM

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My DSL only use RM50+ every mth. Just 4 of us. Aircon on around 1 hr at nite to cool down the bedroom, then use ceiling fan.
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post Aug 7 2015, 09:15 AM

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Anyone who got watt-meter pls share where to get it from. My 11 yr old pana fridge suspected of consuming crazy electricity, 8-10 units per day.
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QUOTE(nanan75 @ Aug 7 2015, 09:15 AM)
Anyone who got watt-meter pls share where to get it from.  My 11 yr old pana fridge suspected of consuming crazy electricity, 8-10 units per day.
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You can get it from trading zone here. But the quality so so.

Or ebay uk. About RM100.
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QUOTE(nanan75 @ Aug 7 2015, 09:15 AM)
Anyone who got watt-meter pls share where to get it from.  My 11 yr old pana fridge suspected of consuming crazy electricity, 8-10 units per day.
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You can try to contact this seller.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2016071

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post Mar 12 2023, 04:56 PM

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UPDATE !!!
I just checked through the earlier days and the lowest it went was 2KWH when absolutely nobody was around (with few lights turned on)
I wrongly looked and pointed out the days where it was showing 5Kwh , when I was around. Sometimes it goes around 4KWH with me around.

Sorry about that! blush.gif
Please ignore earlier comments biggrin.gif



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post Mar 12 2023, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Mar 12 2023, 04:56 PM)
Hi, Sorry to necro such an old thread, but its related anyway.

I have a house, which is always "vacant" . But when I check the TNB app, daily its consuming , I kid you not , 4-5KWH per day consistently shocking.gif

The meter is already converted to Smart Meter and its wiring is already came with 3 phase wiring.

What I did was :

i) I have a Kilowatt measurement meter, which plugs in any electrical device to measure.
So I measured my Samsung inverter fridge as the first culprit. (and also the fridge does not have any 5 star TNB energy rating sticker)

As I measured after slightly more than 24 hours, it consumes around 1.1Kwh and its time electrical usage recorded is around 17 hours 45 mins (meaning the remaining 6 hours 15 mins it is recorded sleeping at 0 watts)

2) Yes I have few lights turned on, but they are either LED or energy saving bulbs. They couldn't had consumed so much. 

3) I have tried turning off the ELCB and Mains , checked the smart meter and confirmed it measures zero Amps in each phase.

4) When I checked the Smart Meter ,amps per phase, it shows around <0.1 Amps per phase. With exception at one point of time, it was showing 0.7Amps on Phase 1 due to fridge compressor running.

5 kwh is around 20.83 Amp hours. That translate to 0.87 Amps hour

I cannot brain, where has the remaining 3-4Kwh gone? rclxub.gif  Not even an aircond is turned on.
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Anything related to heat has higher power consumption. Anything related to cooking, boiling, air fryer, or even water heater for bath. Do you use induction stove?

PC is also a huge power draw depending on the make. Imagine if you have 12th or 13th gen Intel and RTX GPU. I kid you not when you game for few hours a day.

Front load washing machine also sucks a lot more power than top load since it would have heater function.

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post Mar 12 2023, 06:49 PM

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Maybe double check if any equipment on standby?
Maybe keep 2 phases off and run just one phase at a time to trouble shoot the phase/area; ie process of elimination
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post Mar 14 2023, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 12 2023, 06:28 PM)
Anything related to heat has higher power consumption. Anything related to cooking, boiling, air fryer, or even water heater for bath. Do you use induction stove?

PC is also a huge power draw depending on the make. Imagine if you have 12th or 13th gen Intel and RTX GPU. I kid you not when you game for few hours a day.

Front load washing machine also sucks a lot more power than top load since it would have heater function.
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Hi Andre and VeeJay,
I would like to sincerely apologise for the earlier false alarm. blush.gif
Earlier when I mentioned it was consuming 5KWH, I was looking at wrong date doh.gif mega_shok.gif doh.gif . I was looking at the date, when I was around .

As I scroll down the earlier month, there are some days whereby it was showing 2KWH or RM 0.34
(Well the TNB app cant show the KWH in decimal places i.e 1.6Kwh so it rounds up to the nearest)

Also to answer your queries, Andre,
I) the house does not have induction stove or a desktop PC (Using Laptop) . For washing machine its using top loader washing machine with 3 Star Energy rating. biggrin.gif
ii) For shower - The house comes with a solar water heater and booster pump. Yeah, I'm aware the booster pump is rated around 900W, so that will contribute some (since it will only trigger when the water is turned on) . Never used the solar heater's heating function before.

Thanks however for all your replies . I will monitor this from my end. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Mar 14 2023, 09:38 AM)
Hi Andre and VeeJay,
I would like to sincerely apologise for the earlier false alarm.  blush.gif
Earlier when I mentioned it was consuming 5KWH, I was looking at wrong date  doh.gif  mega_shok.gif doh.gif . I was looking at the date, when I was around .

As I scroll down the earlier month, there are some days whereby it was showing 2KWH or RM 0.34
(Well the TNB app cant show the KWH in decimal places i.e 1.6Kwh so it rounds up to the nearest)

Also to answer your queries, Andre,
I) the house does not have induction stove or a desktop PC (Using Laptop) . For washing machine its using top loader washing machine with 3 Star Energy rating.  biggrin.gif
ii) For shower - The house comes with a solar water heater and booster pump. Yeah, I'm aware the booster pump is rated around 900W, so that will contribute some (since it will only trigger when the water is turned on) . Never used the solar heater's heating function before.

Thanks however for all your replies . I will monitor this from my end.  biggrin.gif
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No problem. Actually no need scratch your head over this. I think nowadays it is kinda easy to guess your usage based on the electrical products that you have.

A top load regardless of stars rating uses really little electricity. I too thought my monitoring plug was spoilt until I walked into an electrical shop to look at the figures which is just a shocking 100kwh a year. An inverter 1hp at 26C 8hours daily would consume around 2-2.5kwh average. If you drop the temp to 25C, it would result to almost 100% increase of electrical usage. An inverter fridge would consume between 40-80kwh per month depending on how often you open it (comparing my seldom opened 520L Hisense 4 doors to my mom Hitachi 600L which would be opened few times a day for cooking). I started monitoring everything because TNB just came to exchange the old black meter which is not accurate anymore after 30+ years.

So far, most of the electrical items are not big power sucker except for those that are heat related. For example, boiling a 5L kettle would take 0.35kwh each time (about 6-7minutes to fully boil). In comparison, a thermopot would use about 1kwh per day. I already stopped using thermopot and instead rely on smart plug to set operation time to get hot water every morning for breakfast and filling my thermos in case I need some hot water at night. You can imagine the sort of power consumption if say you get those electrical hot pot (most of them are 2000-2400w which is the same as a kettle) for steamboat session for 1hr.

My 65inch tv power draw is just around 130w which is really not much and much to my surprise, my edifier soundbar would draw 80+w. Charging most battery (smartphone, tablet, vacuum) is very negligible to say at least. Even those IPCAM (like tapo) and wifi switch would only draw 1-2w at most.

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