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aeiou228
post Jul 8 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Jul 8 2015, 10:57 AM)
would there be any difference between a three phase unit and a single phase unit?
Would this have any effect on the bill even though the electrical items used are pretty much the same?
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Your RM600+ and RM700+ bill are E bill or N bill ?

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post Jul 8 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Jul 8 2015, 11:28 AM)
what is an e bill and what is a n bill?
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As explained by enduser.

It's difficult to pin point which appliances are the root cause for the hike in electricity bill unless one is living in your house to make the observation.
But it's pretty easy to find out yourself.
Just list out the WATTAGE of each electrical appliances x the duration of usage.
High wattage appliances and long or frequent usage are usually the culprit.

Since your mentioned the hike in electricity bill is after you shifted from condo to DSL, I can only guess these possible reasons:
1) Bigger area which requires more lighting, cooling and heating.
Eg, you have added 30+ 18w LED down light, how many are switched on and what's the duration ?? You also added additional storage tank heater on separate rooms, which means you need to heat up 50+35 ltr of water instead of 50 ltr only previouly.

2) The water pump surely one of the reason for the bill hike already.

3) the 700 ltr fridge is from the old house ??

4) No modem, router, iron, blender, juicer, bread maker ??


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post Jul 8 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 8 2015, 01:10 PM)
His reply is correct, if use only switch on. But you wash hand, wash face, brush teeth all short usage will also switch on the pump. That will be usage right? So his answer what you ask, but not what the usage
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flash toilet, shower (mind you, rain shower), wash dishes, preparing food, wash car, mop floor, boil water....let's assume pump running on average 100min a day and it's a 700w pump, then the monthly additional energy cost + GST + 1.6% KWTBB is around RM20
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post Jul 8 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Jul 8 2015, 05:17 PM)
my vacuum is 2800 watt. usage every 2 days for about 90 minutes. but have to use due to having small kids who likes to spill food and having a cat with thick and long fur.
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Your energy cost for vacuum alone is RM34 (GST + KWTBB included) per month. That's 50% of Ozak's 1 month TNB bill.
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Jul 9 2015, 11:50 AM)
billing cycle was from 15 may to 16 jun. approximately 32 days. I checked this on the bill.
Things just don't make sense.
my consumption from 16 june to 7 july is 950kwh!! which is about 21 days meaning my consumption per day is 45kwh.
I started monitoring from 7 july till this morning and my consumption for 2 days is about 66kwh or about 33kwh per day.
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Beside monitoring the meter, you also need to trouble shoot the hike is not due to billing discrepancy, you need to check whether your RM700+ bill is E bill or N bill. If not mistake, TNB adopt Normal billing and Estimate billing on alternate month at certain area.
If the 2 bills are N bills, then please check the meter reading date is consistent or not ie about 30 days usage.

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post Jul 10 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 9 2015, 10:49 PM)
Water instant heater won't drink the energy lah, just you press the button then heat up only

But water storage tank is different story.
Once you power on may cook & boiling the water and keep it warm until temp are drop to be heat up again.

Again 2500w = 2.5hp + 1hp Aircon power input watt
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Very simple work.. A day from 7am to 8pm in between has 3 time of boiling, on each boiling to be 2.5kwh x 3 times = 7.5kwh.. Maybe you wanna try to understand the work out
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Boiling ?? Boiling is 100°C you know ? If really boil inside the tank, your tank already explode liao. biggrin.gif It's heating not boiling. Not wonder you got the concept wrong.
For safety reason, storage heater will auto cut the heating process when water temperature hit 60°C.
Therefore, to heat up 25ltr of water to 60°C, it doesn't need 1 hour as per you claimed above. You don't wait 1 hour to take shower after you switched on the heater, do you ??
Also, the second and subsequent re-heat processes can be even faster due to the retaining heat in the water, maybe less than 5 or 10 minutes.
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post Jul 10 2015, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Jul 10 2015, 03:23 PM)
this is weird. I use 26 units from 7am to 7pm for 3 days straight.
electrical items used are:

2 x 1hp inverter aircond for 9 hours each.
10 minutes 50 liter storage water heater
10 minutes 500 watt water pump
2 ceiling fans for 9 house each
4 LED downlights for 3 hours
20 minutes 2800 watt vacuum cleaner.

Help me. does this make any sense?
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7am to 7pm ?? So the above are for 12hours of daytime usage ??

What about 7pm to 7am night time usage ??
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post Aug 5 2015, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 05:55 PM)
first question.go touch ur LED light/bulb/tube whether is hot when turn on after 5-8 hours.if yes,ur led is cheap led(some no brand china led),which doesnt help in consumption but increase ur electricity.

if you found this issue, meaning you get con on LED.
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What brand do you sell ? Your LED's driver wouldn't get hot after 1 hour?
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post Aug 5 2015, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 06:19 PM)
Lol.nop.my driver wont get hot and is waranty 1 year.. Urs should be those china no brand led.
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No, Mine were original E27 Phillips and Osram LED bulbs bought from Giant. The base still get resonably hot after 30 min.
Yours very good, driver won't get hot. What's the brand name? Made in China too?
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post Aug 5 2015, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 07:01 PM)
Worst bro.go check on philip news.zzz.lazy explain.i am using opple.go google opple.com n check.hardly u can get opple here
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Why worst? Are you saying Giant selling fake Phillips and Osram LED bulbs ? You want to share your knowledge in LED lightings but you lazy to explain doh.gif ? Why branded Phillips LED driver gets hot but your Opple LED's driver won't get heated up??

 

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