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idoblu
post Jul 26 2015, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 24 2015, 05:01 PM)
Good to know that. After they come over and change, record the usage for a month or two, and bring that back to TNB ask them how they compensate?
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Wah my bill just came. so far i have received two bills since moving here. last month - Rm217. this month - Rm255 (630units)
I checked my meter yesterday evening and checked again this morning
8 units from 6pm to 9am
Using 2HP aircon set at 26C from 9pm to 9am. Few hours of TV usage.
Got 400L inverter fridge running 24hours
Does this sounds normal?

night time already 8 units. daytime i think about 10 units...everyday 20 units cry.gif

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post Jul 26 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 26 2015, 08:56 AM)
Wah my bill just came. so far i have received two bills since moving here. last month - Rm217. this month - Rm255 (630units)
I checked my meter yesterday evening and checked again this morning
8 units from 6pm to 9am
Using 2HP aircon set at 26C from 9pm to 9am. Few hours of TV usage.
Got 400L inverter fridge running 24hours
Does this sounds normal?

night time already 8 units. daytime i think about 10 units...everyday 20 units  cry.gif
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Depend what's running for day time, and is your house always occupied, for night I assume nothing much except Ac, fridge and light. Look normal. You may want to reduce the Ac usage say from 10-8am, this I think you can drop 1 unit
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 26 2015, 08:56 AM)
Wah my bill just came. so far i have received two bills since moving here. last month - Rm217. this month - Rm255 (630units)
I checked my meter yesterday evening and checked again this morning
8 units from 6pm to 9am
Using 2HP aircon set at 26C from 9pm to 9am. Few hours of TV usage.
Got 400L inverter fridge running 24hours
Does this sounds normal?

night time already 8 units. daytime i think about 10 units...everyday 20 units  cry.gif
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About normal.

2HP is about 1.5KW, running 12 hours = 12 x 1.5 = 18Kwh (18 unit) with full 100% operating.
So if registered 8 unit during the real usage (as air-cond compressor does on and off in between if set at higher temperature), it is considerable quite normal.
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post Jul 26 2015, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 26 2015, 08:56 AM)
Wah my bill just came. so far i have received two bills since moving here. last month - Rm217. this month - Rm255 (630units)
I checked my meter yesterday evening and checked again this morning
8 units from 6pm to 9am
Using 2HP aircon set at 26C from 9pm to 9am. Few hours of TV usage.
Got 400L inverter fridge running 24hours
Does this sounds normal?

night time already 8 units. daytime i think about 10 units...everyday 20 units  cry.gif
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That is 2hp inverter aircond? It is still on high side in my book. Normally there is an appliance that is inefficient because of old age or faulty. In my case it is an 11 yo pana fridge which averages 8-10 units per day, scary..
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post Jul 26 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(nanan75 @ Jul 26 2015, 12:55 PM)
That is 2hp inverter aircond?  It is still on high side in my book.  Normally there is an appliance that is inefficient because of old age or faulty.  In my case it is an 11 yo pana fridge which averages 8-10 units per day, scary..
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New inverter Panasonic Aircon
I also feel it's a bit high since my set temp is so high at 26C only
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post Jul 26 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(nanan75 @ Jul 26 2015, 12:55 PM)
That is 2hp inverter aircond?  It is still on high side in my book.  Normally there is an appliance that is inefficient because of old age or faulty.  In my case it is an 11 yo pana fridge which averages 8-10 units per day, scary..
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Not really it depend on many factors like how big the area, how good the room being insulated. Furthermore the measurement inclusive of other household appliances like fans, Lights, Fridge, Water heater, hot water dispenser (if any), Computers, etc...


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post Jul 26 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 26 2015, 12:59 PM)
New inverter Panasonic Aircon
I also feel it's a bit high since my set temp is so high at 26C only
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You should also measure what are the units used when no A/C are switch on (in rainy days)
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 26 2015, 02:37 PM)
You should also measure what are the units used when no A/C are switch on (in rainy days)
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ok from 8:45am to 2:50pm - that means 6 hours - 2 units with just one small TV, astro, stand fan, fridge running
am monitoring now how many units for my washer and dryer

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 26 2015, 02:55 PM)
ok from 8:45am to 2:50pm - that means 6 hours - 2 units with just one small TV, astro, stand fan, fridge running
am monitoring now how many units for my washer and dryer
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Like that not accurate, your sampling need to be with more data.

FYI, Dryer is a killer is as good as running water heater for long hours.
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post Aug 5 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 24 2015, 05:01 PM)
Good to know that. After they come over and change, record the usage for a month or two, and bring that back to TNB ask them how they compensate?
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I just got my new meter on 3 August 2015. They came at about 1pm and took about 5 mins to install. So far, I am happy as from what I have recorded, I have only used up 28kwh from 3/8/2015 at 1pm to 5/8/2015 up to this morning 7am. that is a solid 42 hours of usage. With my old meter, this was the consumption recorded from 7pm to 7am!!!

As for the compensation, I checked with tnb via phone and also to the person who changed my meter, they said the same thing, tnb will credit my account. not too sure how they will do that though.

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 26 2015, 08:56 AM)
Wah my bill just came. so far i have received two bills since moving here. last month - Rm217. this month - Rm255 (630units)
I checked my meter yesterday evening and checked again this morning
8 units from 6pm to 9am
Using 2HP aircon set at 26C from 9pm to 9am. Few hours of TV usage.
Got 400L inverter fridge running 24hours
Does this sounds normal?

night time already 8 units. daytime i think about 10 units...everyday 20 units  cry.gif
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I think thats about right. Cause when I was using my old meter, my reading was double your reading. you can read in my earlier postings what I used during the night.
hopefully my new meter I will get your reading, which I will be very happy with.
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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Aug 5 2015, 06:13 PM)
Thank you, but as you can see from my previous postings, I am already using LED downlights.
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first question.go touch ur LED light/bulb/tube whether is hot when turn on after 5-8 hours.if yes,ur led is cheap led(some no brand china led),which doesnt help in consumption but increase ur electricity.

if you found this issue, meaning you get con on LED.

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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 05:55 PM)
first question.go touch ur LED light/bulb/tube whether is hot when turn on after 5-8 hours.if yes,ur led is cheap led(some no brand china led),which doesnt help in consumption but increase ur electricity.

if you found this issue, meaning you get con on LED.
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What brand do you sell ? Your LED's driver wouldn't get hot after 1 hour?
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post Aug 5 2015, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Aug 5 2015, 07:11 PM)
What brand do you sell ? Your LED's driver wouldn't get hot after 1 hour?
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Lol.nop.my driver wont get hot and is waranty 1 year.. Urs should be those china no brand led.
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post Aug 5 2015, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 05:55 PM)
first question.go touch ur LED light/bulb/tube whether is hot when turn on after 5-8 hours.if yes,ur led is cheap led(some no brand china led),which doesnt help in consumption but increase ur electricity.

if you found this issue, meaning you get con on LED.
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Dear Chantzeshyuan,

I do not want to be confrontational.

First
I don't think you read my earlier posting as I clearly mentioned that I am currently using LED downlights. If you had noticed or not been so ignorant, you would not have asked me if I want to change all my downlights to LED and instead should have asked me whether I want to change to a better quality downlight.

Second
I had thanked you for your input and politely mentioned that I am already currently using LED downlights.

Third
This thread was never about cheap or expensive LED. It has always been about electricity consumption.

Fourth
As you do not know me or my financial status, then please reserve your comments on whether I am using cheap LED downlights or otherwise.

Fifth
I do not have to answer to you or anyone else whether I have been conned or otherwise. Plus, you do not know what brand or how much my LED costs and neither do you know who had installed or where I purchased it.

Sixth
Lets leave it as it is and please use another thread if you want to promote LED lights, whether the LED lights are from you or from a colleague.



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post Aug 5 2015, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(ajai@jakes @ Aug 5 2015, 07:25 PM)
Dear Chantzeshyuan,

I do not want to be confrontational.

First
I don't think you read my earlier posting as I clearly mentioned that I am currently using LED downlights. If you had noticed or not been so ignorant, you would not have asked me if I want to change all my downlights to LED and instead should have asked me whether I want to change to a better quality downlight.

Second
I had thanked you for your input and politely mentioned that I am already currently using LED downlights.

Third
This thread was never about cheap or expensive LED. It has always been about electricity consumption.

Fourth
As you do not know me or my financial status, then please reserve your comments on whether I am using cheap LED downlights or otherwise.

Fifth
I do not have to answer to you or anyone else whether I have been conned or otherwise. Plus, you do not know what brand or how much my LED costs and neither do you know who had installed or where I purchased it.

Sixth
Lets leave it as it is and please use another thread if you want to promote LED lights, whether the LED lights are from you or from a colleague.
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Sorry if i am rude to the ur question and comment but Stil the same answer given to u.led driver get hot in an hour or less than a day is definately a cheap LED,i will say u bought the led less than rm30 or maybe less than rm10.00.there is always customer ask : y some led is more expensive.the answer is given by urself already.so when the driver is hot,it wont help u save electricity,but help u use more electricity.
2. Of course i saw ur post.that y the second answer replied you was to check ur led whether will get hot or not.Quality led wont get hot and will help u save electricity.that y i am asking if you want to change ur led.

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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 06:19 PM)
Lol.nop.my driver wont get hot and is waranty 1 year.. Urs should be those china no brand led.
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No, Mine were original E27 Phillips and Osram LED bulbs bought from Giant. The base still get resonably hot after 30 min.
Yours very good, driver won't get hot. What's the brand name? Made in China too?
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Aug 5 2015, 07:54 PM)
No, Mine were original E27 Phillips and Osram LED bulbs bought from Giant. The base still get resonably hot after 30 min.
Yours very good, driver won't get hot. What's the brand name? Made in China too?
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Worst bro.go check on philip news.zzz.lazy explain.i am using opple.go google opple.com n check.hardly u can get opple here
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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 06:54 PM)
Sorry if i am rude to the ur question and comment but Stil the same answer given to u.led driver get hot in an hour or less than a day is definately a cheap LED,i will say u bought the led less than rm30 or maybe less than rm10.00.there is always customer ask : y some led is more expensive.the answer is given by urself already.so when the driver is hot,it wont help u save electricity,but help u use more electricity.
2. Of course i saw ur post.that y the second answer replied you was to check ur led whether will get hot or not.Quality led wont get hot and will help u save electricity.that y i am asking if you want to change ur led.
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I will let you assume that my LED is less than RM30 or maybe less than RM10. I don't have to justify to you.

I will also let you assume that I have already provided an answer whether I am using cheap or expensive LED. IF I am not mistaken, I never mentioned whether it was cheap or expensive and I do not think I even mentioned how much it was. but if you had derived that I am using cheap LED downlights from my postings, then I think you are in the wrong career path and should take up mind reading.

I am not an electrician and neither will I pretend to know about LED downlights and whether if a driver is hot would use more electricity, that I will leave to the people who has more knowledge.

All I can say is that personally, I am uninterested with your offer to change my LED downlights due to the fact that you kept talking bad about other LED downlights whilst at the same time claiming that your LED downlights are of a better quality than China made ones without any proof or without any mentioned of what brand or anything to back your claims. Further, I think your attitude as a seller of LED downlights is a turnoff.

I will leave it to the rest of the readers to determine whether they want to purchase their LED downlights from your or not.


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QUOTE(chantzeshyuan @ Aug 5 2015, 07:01 PM)
Worst bro.go check on philip news.zzz.lazy explain.i am using opple.go google opple.com n check.hardly u can get opple here
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Thank you for the website.

you are selling Opple branded China LED downlights. noted.

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