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SUSDavid83
post Jul 29 2015, 09:49 PM

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Gold Is Only Going to Get Worse

The problem for gold isn’t just that prices are dropping. For many, the metal also has lost its charisma.

Sentiment means a lot in the bullion market, where only about 60 percent of what gets mined or recycled each year is used in jewelry and industrial applications. The rest is sold as coins or bars, so when demand from investors dries up, there can be painful consequences for the bulls who remain.

Prices will drop to $984 an ounce before January, according to the average estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of 16 analysts and traders. That would be the lowest since 2009 and a 10 percent retreat from Tuesday’s settlement. Speculators are shorting the metal for the first time since U.S. government data began in 2006, and holders of exchange-traded products are selling at the fastest pace in two years.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ls-lower-prices
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post Jul 29 2015, 10:08 PM

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Just calculated. My overall IRR only 4.53%. damn lousy

all because of ponzi 2 doh.gif
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post Jul 29 2015, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 29 2015, 09:49 PM)
Gold Is Only Going to Get Worse

The problem for gold isn’t just that prices are dropping. For many, the metal also has lost its charisma.

Sentiment means a lot in the bullion market, where only about 60 percent of what gets mined or recycled each year is used in jewelry and industrial applications. The rest is sold as coins or bars, so when demand from investors dries up, there can be painful consequences for the bulls who remain.

Prices will drop to $984 an ounce before January, according to the average estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of 16 analysts and traders. That would be the lowest since 2009 and a 10 percent retreat from Tuesday’s settlement. Speculators are shorting the metal for the first time since U.S. government data began in 2006, and holders of exchange-traded products are selling at the fastest pace in two years.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ls-lower-prices
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From paid subscription of investment advisory, hedge funds have collectively gone bearish on gold for first time on record. That is a contrarian indicator. So don't count gold out yet.
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post Jul 29 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jul 29 2015, 10:08 PM)
Just calculated. My overall IRR only 4.53%. damn lousy

all because of ponzi 2  doh.gif
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better than FD ok la...if you're starting out at these times
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post Jul 30 2015, 07:12 AM

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Fed keeps rate low ... dun moan moan
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post Jul 30 2015, 09:24 AM

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Just dump all my available cash to RHB Islamic Bond Fund. Hopefully didn't make wrong decision biggrin.gif
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post Jul 30 2015, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jul 30 2015, 09:24 AM)
Just dump all my available cash to RHB Islamic Bond Fund. Hopefully didn't make wrong decision biggrin.gif
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what's ur current holdings now?


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post Jul 30 2015, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jul 30 2015, 09:24 AM)
Just dump all my available cash to RHB Islamic Bond Fund. Hopefully didn't make wrong decision biggrin.gif
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Bad decision....to liquidate a bond fund takes T+14 days to reach your bank account. If you need money immediately, it will be a problem!

Xuzen

p/s: Read the RHB Islamic Bond Fund Fact Sheet carefully esp the small print.... "any fund invested in less than a year, should you withdraw there is a penalty of 1% charge!"
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post Jul 30 2015, 10:41 AM

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US, Euro, and APAC markets in the green... xD flex.gif


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post Jul 30 2015, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 30 2015, 09:41 AM)
Bad decision....to liquidate a bond fund takes T+14 days to reach your bank account. If you need money immediately, it will be a problem!

Xuzen

p/s: Read the RHB Islamic Bond Fund Fact Sheet carefully esp the small print.... "any fund invested in less than a year, should you withdraw there is a penalty of 1% charge!"
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thanks for the highlght

damn it. how come got exit fee one? never heard of such thing. i checked other bond fund also don't have. vmad.gif

btw, redemption is T + 4 , not 14

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post Jul 30 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jul 30 2015, 01:28 PM)
thanks for the highlght

damn it. how come got exit fee one? never heard of such thing. i checked other bond fund also don't have.  vmad.gif

btw, redemption is T + 4 , not 14
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Some....

Not all. I saw that before. Selling before maturity incurs selling fees.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Jul 30 2015, 01:38 PM)
Some....

Not all. I saw that before. Selling before maturity incurs selling fees.
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well new lesson for me to check fund sheet before commit anythiing
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post Jul 30 2015, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jul 30 2015, 01:28 PM)
thanks for the highlght

damn it. how come got exit fee one? never heard of such thing. i checked other bond fund also don't have.  vmad.gif

btw, redemption is T + 4 , not 14
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Read the fine print again from the fund fact sheet... it states 10 days from receive of redemption request, give another 3 to 4 days to clear the cheque, is T+14. Esp you don't buy direct from RHB but from a Nominee account such as FSM.

RHB will issue the cheque to FSM, tunggu clear baru FSM issue cheque to you. I stand by my T+14

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 30 2015, 02:09 PM)
Read the fine print again from the fund fact sheet... it states 10 days from receive of redemption request, give another 3 to 4 days to clear the cheque, is T+14. Esp you don't buy direct from RHB but from a Nominee account such as FSM.

RHB will issue the cheque to FSM, tunggu clear baru FSM issue cheque to you. I stand by my T+14

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ok. noted


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post Jul 30 2015, 03:05 PM

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Made my first cent of investment was back in 15 August 2014.

IRR as of now... 7.65%. ROI: 5.49%

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been through the corrections in december and was nearly -10% at some point with KGF... biggrin.gif

ATR: RHB Asian Total Return Fund

EI AP: EI AP ex-Japan Target Return Fund

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my CIMB Asia Pacific Dynamic Equity keep falling down 13%
my Eastspring Investment also falls down 5%
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Jul 29 2015, 09:02 PM)
Yes it is! Ponzi 2.0 haven't become green for me even once. Lolx.
Bleeding.  But as they say. smell of blood invite more bites.

Let's bite more ?
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You're not alone.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

But again, UT is not for short term, so yea. I am able to stomach some losses up to certain extent..
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post Jul 30 2015, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jul 30 2015, 03:05 PM)
Made my first cent of investment was back in 15 August 2014.

IRR as of now... 7.65%. ROI: 5.49%

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been through the corrections in december and was nearly -10% at some point with KGF... biggrin.gif

ATR: RHB Asian Total Return Fund

EI AP: EI AP ex-Japan Target Return Fund
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif nice !!!!

QUOTE(ragu91 @ Jul 30 2015, 06:37 PM)
You're not alone..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

But again, UT is not for short term, so yea. I am able to stomach some losses up to certain extent..
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High-Five.smile.gif. I plan to hold for at least 1 2 years up to 3 4 years.
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post Jul 30 2015, 07:19 PM

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Suddenly SSE Comp and HSI closed in red. doh.gif
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post Jul 30 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 30 2015, 07:19 PM)
Suddenly SSE Comp and HSI closed in red. doh.gif
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Yeah.... icon_question.gif

hmm... and euro seems to be enticing.

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