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IvanWong1989
post Jul 10 2015, 10:17 AM

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Long time no see.. ><

and I came back with blood bath red.

-5%......

China oh China.... The big question !!!! Buy when low sell when high? Red is good red is good.

Or

Cut loses lmao. xD
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post Jul 14 2015, 09:58 AM

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I'm DCA-ing my ponzi 2.0 now. lolxxx. no balls to lump sum. hahaha.

Sitting on -6% on ponzi 2.0. surprisingly Evergreen seems to holding well. -ve, but Resilient.
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:24 PM

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Anyone here gets eastspring euro small cap fund?
what's your comment on this?

Thinking to diversify
I have exposure to Asia ex jap. And boleh land.

Euro zone. Get ta euro find or east small cap?

Mind the short words typing on phone. paiseh

Thank you sifu Sifu
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 22 2015, 09:34 PM)
Fund Focus: Opportunities for Greater Returns in European Smaller Companies......Fundsupermart ... June 19, 2015 

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...Companies-10478

eastspring got euro small cap fund?
can share the link?
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I have a feeling I maybe wrote the wrong fund. Lol. It's East spring small cap. Dash the euro. Sobz. It's malaysia based.

Haha.
Might I ask sifu. You have exposure to euro now?
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 22 2015, 09:34 PM)
Fund Focus: Opportunities for Greater Returns in European Smaller Companies......Fundsupermart ... June 19, 2015 

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...Companies-10478

eastspring got euro small cap fund?
can share the link?
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I have a feeling I maybe wrote the wrong fund. Lol. It's East spring small cap. Dash the euro. Sobz. It's malaysia based.

Haha.
Might I ask sifu. You have exposure to euro now?
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post Jul 22 2015, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 22 2015, 10:59 PM)
The oracle speaketh:

Do not ignore land of Uncle Sam;
rate hike in anticipation in that realm;
Technology theme is to watch;
much gain I may vouch;

The dragon has been wounded;
Reduce is wise, but remain grounded;
The elephant is charging again;
Time to ride its stampede to gain.

So sayeth the cystal ball.
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so deeepppppp ><...

sorry.... i dun und.... T.T sweat.gif
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post Jul 22 2015, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 22 2015, 11:06 PM)
land of Uncle Sam - USA

dragon - China

elephant- Thailand

correct?  unsure.gif  hmm.gif
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now this clears up my rclxub.gif


haha... noted. tqtq
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post Jul 22 2015, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 22 2015, 11:27 PM)
laugh.gif
the last one I got it wrong  blush.gif

it's India @ ModiLand not Thailand
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at first i also thought is thailand..... cause when i see elephant == thailand hahaha

sifu,

question.

given the current circumstances,

if i can within this or next week buy another new fund, how to weigh between choosing expose to euro or modiland?
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post Jul 23 2015, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 23 2015, 09:11 AM)
Disadvantage?

- lesser steps
- no need to key in TAC

So, if u log in FSM in drunken state and/or a hot chick ask u "baby...let's bet big on gold/China/Emerging Markets..." wub.gif

Habis lah laugh.gif
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xD rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Erm, do you periodically cash in to CMF? I think it has interest also right? hmm.gif
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post Jul 23 2015, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 23 2015, 09:19 AM)
Cash in to CMF == buying the money market fund

I won't do that. whistling.gif

FPX is pretty handy nowadays!
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notworthy.gif CMF == Money Market Fund. Orite. Gotcha
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post Jul 23 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 23 2015, 09:23 AM)
Park too much money in savings account/liquid e-FD account where u can have instant access is dangerous...

at least for me sweat.gif

btw IvanWong1989 investing SHOULD NOT be stressful, u are not trading shakehead.gif
Do proper research and homework, pull the trigger, and leave it to grow
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thumbup.gif noted. haha. I'm deadly undecided. lol. nervous choosing third fund. lmao.
Will chill and relax. smile.gif


QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 23 2015, 09:28 AM)
Aku takda rumah sad.gif
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Same here sad.gif
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post Jul 24 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 24 2015, 09:23 AM)
No promo kenot top up? doh.gif

Or top up the laggard Aladdin World leh? hmm.gif
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GTF prospects seem ok? Developed markets. Hmm.
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post Jul 24 2015, 11:27 PM

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wah.... all negative news..@@
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post Jul 25 2015, 07:17 PM

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Sifu sifu I have a question.

Lump sum investing vs dollar cost averaging

Most article assumes that at the start you've had a big lump sum cash and then we choose to DCA or not. Their research says that lump sum gives better returns over DCA 2 th

But how about youve got no lump sum cash now?
if I choose to lump sum. Meand ill accumulate cash overtime In savings account. And when market ngam ngam. Then lump sum invest in?
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post Jul 25 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jul 25 2015, 07:48 PM)
How are you gonna time the market?

If anyone is expert in timing, no need unit trust liao.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 25 2015, 08:30 PM)
both method have pro & cons u know..

lump sum if u invest "wrong" timing aka when NAV is high.. later market down.. u loss big time.. but if market still go upwards after u invested then profit  lor  icon_rolleyes.gif

and the main point is UT need to keep long term
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erm.... not to say I'm gonna time the market.... haha. just a question. cause i read research that put lump sum investment vs dca. 2/3 of the times, lump sum investment wins dca over 10 years.
this condition is.
lump sum investment = at year 0, you got 1 million. you directly put in all.
dca = at year 0, you got 1 million. you dca your 1 million over every month until the end.

Now I'm thinking how about.

at year 0, you got no budget or shit. If you decide to lump sum. means for the first few months perhaps, or few years you are accumulating cash.(static cash). then only you lump sum later.

vs

at year 0, every month you put in little by little.



It seems for this more realistic scenario, dca wins. I think. hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jul 26 2015, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jul 25 2015, 10:29 PM)
Let's say you invest lump sum when the price is peak and compare another guy invest partly same time but DCA when price going south

Who u think will have better return?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 26 2015, 07:41 AM)
If you happen to invest lump sum during bear market, you are going to get good return. But how do you know when the next bear market will come?

I tell you one story:
In 2008, before GE 12, when the Parliament was dissolved, market was down.
People were expecting the same thing to happen before GE13. Some exited the market as early as 2012. But the Parliament was only dissolved in April 2013, and yet there was no major correction.
Major correction only happened last year.

If you were one who exited the market in 2012, what would you miss?
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jul 26 2015, 05:33 PM)
of course DCA wins lar... since both also DCA.  laugh.gif

PS. Lump sum method actually means one shot. So you either tembak the 1 million at year 0 or 20.
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Many thanks sifu sifu. haha.
Now i see the point. smile.gif hmm.gif
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post Jul 26 2015, 08:27 PM

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everyone of you holding small cap funds?
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post Jul 26 2015, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 26 2015, 09:14 PM)
Since mid 2013 brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Damn,,,... drool.gif drool.gif

I wanna enter also leh.... rclxub.gif

so many funds i mau enter.
no moolah to enter lol.


Hmm.... xuzen.... question.

when i open the charts and put 5 years or 10 years. the growth gradient is positive all the way.

One can take it as

1) Fund management is good. Consistent growth over the years. Extrapolating would mean continued growth. Probably.

2) it's so farking high!, Correction might happen. Global bear time? Every 7 or 10 years.

Any comments ar?
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post Jul 27 2015, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 27 2015, 10:14 AM)
Market or index =/= Fund

If the index goes up and up and up and up, yeah correction may be due.

But if index yo-yo but fund goes up and up and up, the fund manager is doing a good job buying undervalued stocks and dumping overvalued stocks (repeat this over and over and over and over the years)

This is the simplistic view of things. wink.gif
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hmm.gif didn't think of that in that perspective. icic... hmm.gif

is there any chance a fund still do good, while global bear is ongoing?
Fund manager have to be very picky about what they pick i think . hmm.gif
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post Jul 27 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 27 2015, 10:36 AM)
Don't need to look far...

Not to say I boasting...just to prove a point... notworthy.gif

Past 1 year plus KLSE churned out negative annual return... doh.gif

But my stocks portfolio gave me 18% annualised return for the past 3 years wink.gif
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hmmm

So the gist is.

Choose correct fund management. notworthy.gif

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