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post Jul 14 2015, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 14 2015, 03:49 PM)
How much negative ROI have u guys experienced?

I experienced -25% whistling.gif

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My china fund went more than -1 Standard Deviation, which to my understanding, based on my finance study, means the chance of a rebound is very high. So I use that to stay my emotion. If I don't know all this finance mumbo-jumbo hocus-pocus, I would have panic and sell everything!

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post Jul 14 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 14 2015, 04:28 PM)
My china fund went more than -1 Standard Deviation, which to my understanding, based on my finance study, means the chance of a rebound is very high. So I use that to stay my emotion. If I don't know all this finance mumbo-jumbo hocus-pocus, I would have panic and sell everything!

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what if the situation were to be reversed? ex
fund went more than +1 Standard Deviation, does that means the chance of a corrections is very high also. ....how do you react then?
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post Jul 14 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 14 2015, 04:33 PM)
what if the situation were to be reversed? ex
fund went more than +1 Standard Deviation, does that means the chance of a corrections is very high also. ....how do you react then?
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I would reduce my exposure... or rather Algozen™ would "advise" me to reduce exposure.

Xuzen

p/s as of today's NAV, my China exposure has gone from > -1 SD to around +ve 0.5 SD. So it is now in the common zone.



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post Jul 14 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 14 2015, 03:04 PM)
In all fairness, I am glad I have a chance to experience such severe sell-down of a market that I am exposed to. During the sell-down, my equity portion consisted of 80% in China exposure.

Actually it allows me to experience the fear and anxiety and to test my resolve. It sort of answer my own personal doubt... will I panic, will I run and hide?

Again, without ever being in the market, you will never know and no amount of text-book material will help you manage your emotion.

I am happy I have chance to go through this roller-coster ride.... and Woo-hooo what a fantastic ride.

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Experience is something textbook or google cannot buy.

Investment to me is a long term project. We take the short term ups and downs out of the equation, and look at the fundamental of the subject/investment. Given time, the research and due diligence on the subject/investment will pay off. Be it a company's share, property, a country's bond or a commodity.

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Uncle looi , were you the guy asking lotz of question last Saturday in WOU ?

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 14 2015, 04:35 PM)
I would reduce my exposure... or rather Algozen™ would "advise" me to reduce exposure.

Xuzen
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then just wondering how to link this to this..... hmm.gif rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jul 14 2015, 04:35 PM)
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Experience is something textbook or google cannot buy.

Investment to me is a long term project. We take the short term ups and downs out of the equation, and look at the fundamental of the subject/investment. Given time, the research and due diligence on the subject/investment will pay off. Be it a company's share, property, a country's bond or a commodity.

That separates an investor vs a punter  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(adamdacutie @ Jul 14 2015, 04:39 PM)
Uncle looi , were you the guy asking lotz of question last Saturday in WOU ?
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see page 19 post 372....
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post Jul 14 2015, 04:42 PM

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YKLooi,

Read back my post on the explanation of using an imaginary elastic rubber band to illustrate the concept of Standard Deviation and Z-score.

Understand or not?

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post Jul 14 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 14 2015, 04:42 PM)
YKLooi,

Read back my post on the explanation of using an imaginary elastic rubber band to illustrate the concept of Standard Deviation and Z-score.

Understand or not?
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why not imaginary condom? brows.gif
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post Jul 14 2015, 05:17 PM

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I have a sum of money in Fundsupermart already, got offer from Maybank to switch to Amanah Saham Gemilang.. is that a good deal?
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post Jul 14 2015, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(adamdacutie @ Jul 14 2015, 03:58 PM)
I guess during the sell offs we should do top ups of 10 % (1000-1000-1000-1000........) each day and enjoy the entire ride , and smile after everything is over
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wa everyday very tense wor.. biggrin.gif no more bullets then die laugh.gif for me if the holding -10% i will buy in, then next top up at -20%. something like that. applied that to KLSE, but stocks still bleeding vmad.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 14 2015, 05:54 PM)
wa everyday very tense wor..  biggrin.gif  no more bullets then die laugh.gif  for me if the holding -10% i will buy in, then next top up at -20%. something like that. applied that to KLSE, but stocks still bleeding  vmad.gif
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post Jul 14 2015, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 14 2015, 05:59 PM)
my stocks resilient whistling.gif
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good for u laugh.gif eh that day i caught hovid at .475. biggrin.gif
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Portfolio IRR backs to 3.0% sweat.gif
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post Jul 14 2015, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 14 2015, 04:42 PM)
YKLooi,

Read back my post on the explanation of using an imaginary elastic rubber band to illustrate the concept of Standard Deviation and Z-score.

Understand or not?
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hmm.gif ok...reversion to mean rclxms.gif
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post Jul 14 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 14 2015, 06:38 PM)
Portfolio IRR backs to 3.0% sweat.gif
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rclxms.gif mine too also went back up....I think it will stabilize now....



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post Jul 14 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(adamdacutie @ Jul 14 2015, 03:58 PM)
I guess during the sell offs we should do top ups of 10 % (1000-1000-1000-1000........) each day and enjoy the entire ride , and smile after everything is over
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 14 2015, 04:17 PM)
sometimes, for some markets....the drops takes longer to goes up....if top up, top up, top up...until pocket kosong it still not yet reach bottom
ex...Shanghai index peak 1 Oct 2007, bottomed at Oct 2008
Nasdaq (Dot com) index peaked Mar 2000, bottomed at Oct 2002
Nikkei index peaked in 1990, bottomed in 2003
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lol...almost the same way i did during this period, but not as courage as you were, I did minimal allowable amount aka rm200 every other day into the fund with negative red mark haha...
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post Jul 14 2015, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 14 2015, 06:51 PM)
rclxms.gif mine too also went back up....I think it will stabilize now....
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My portfolio IRR still struggling @ 3.51%
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post Jul 14 2015, 08:30 PM

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Ooo..all China fund -ve. Either wait for recovery or top up....

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise Fund -10.1% ...
CIMB Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 3.58%
Manulife China Equity Fund -9.21%

I just buy some stocks...earn there...
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QUOTE(maxsteel2001us @ Jul 14 2015, 08:30 PM)
Ooo..all China fund -ve. Either wait for recovery or top up....

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise Fund  -10.1% ...
CIMB Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 3.58%
Manulife China Equity Fund -9.21%

I just buy some stocks...earn there...
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Ponzi 2.0 is not a China fund. It's just heavy at China/HK.

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