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post Aug 12 2015, 11:44 PM

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for me -1.13 KGF

noticed RHB smart balanced fund dropped significantly.
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post Aug 13 2015, 08:29 AM

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KGI down from +10% to +6%

Thank goodness for GTF to balance it out a bit

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post Aug 13 2015, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(3antz @ Aug 13 2015, 08:29 AM)
KGI down from +10% to +6%

Thank goodness for GTF to balance it out a bit
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guess this is the magic of portfolio diversification..... rclxms.gif
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post Aug 13 2015, 09:09 AM

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KGF ROI from +5% to -1.77% in a week's time... oops...

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post Aug 13 2015, 10:14 AM

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as I've always said...

Economic growth-wise, yeah Asia ex-Japan specifically China is the boomer.

But when it comes to COMPANIES, Developed Markets-based companies still rule.
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My KGF ROI drop 2.57% in 3 days to 17.59%, IRR at 11.52%
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post Aug 13 2015, 02:17 PM

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Amcommodities and Amprecious Metals really good,
moving up so fast from 0.89 to 0.96 and 0.26 to .30 over just few days.
my portfolio value up by 4+K due to that.

But KGF teruk, from 16% profit to now only 5.6%.
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 13 2015, 02:17 PM)
Amcommodities and Amprecious  Metals really good,
moving up so fast from 0.89 to 0.96 and  0.26 to .30 over just  few days.
my portfolio value up by 4+K due to that.

But KGF teruk, from 16% profit to now only 5.6%.
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post Aug 13 2015, 02:46 PM

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luckily i sold more than half of my KGF before it drop below single digit. Now it is near the borderline to red. Transferred most of them into RHB ATR fund. this ATR fund seems gooding.

too bad didnt anticipate china fund drop, my big cap china from 20% to negative and now just back to positive 0. something lol.. Is it time to topup china fund? or shud i just top up more on ATR so my fixed income portion is bigger to as i feel like shit storm is coming soon.
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post Aug 13 2015, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 13 2015, 02:17 PM)
Amcommodities and Amprecious  Metals really good,
moving up so fast from 0.89 to 0.96 and  0.26 to .30 over just  few days.
my portfolio value up by 4+K due to that.

But KGF teruk, from 16% profit to now only 5.6%.
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AMprecious has a volatility factor of 33% ... very high risk wor!

good fund for speculating!

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post Aug 13 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 13 2015, 02:46 PM)
luckily i sold more than half of my KGF before it drop below single digit. Now it is near the borderline to red. Transferred most of them into RHB ATR fund. this ATR fund seems gooding.

too bad didnt anticipate china fund drop, my big cap china from 20% to negative and now just back to positive 0. something lol.. Is it time to topup china fund? or shud i just top up more on ATR so my fixed income portion is bigger to as i feel like shit storm is coming soon.
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hmm.gif if i can feel the shit storm is coming, instead of moving to FI, I would sell all and keep cash in CMF...then wait for redeployment as FI could be affected too.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 13 2015, 03:24 PM)
hmm.gif  if i can feel the shit storm is coming, instead of moving to FI, I would sell all and keep cash in CMF...then wait for redeployment as FI could be affected too.
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is it? i tot FI is quite stable if shit storm is coming becos everyone will park inside bond fund. Very itchy wanna topup china fund. Seems like everyone welcome china devalue yen, while everyone ditching RM when RM getting lowered lol..
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post Aug 13 2015, 03:32 PM

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Asian Bonds still okay...Asian countries still doing easing
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post Aug 13 2015, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 11 2015, 02:53 PM)
That is why looking at return per se is like looking at a 2D picture. You need another parameter to make it more realistic so call 3D.

And that parameter is volatility aka standard deviation. Another way of saying is how consistent the fund maintain that 10% p.a.

Say a Fund A that gives a CAGR of 10% for the past 10 years with a sta-dev of 10% versus a Fund B of CAGR 10% for the past ten years but with a sta-dev of 5%. Which is a more consistent fund?

Answer: B for its consistency. The lower the sta-dev the more consistent the fund is able to hit the 10% return.

And a smart investor should choose a consistent fund.

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But more often than not, Fund A is a young fund, so no 10-year record to compare.
So only the 1-year or 3-year growth was shown.

And since Fund A is more volatile, when the going is good, it has a higher return than Fund B; and when the going is bad, it has a bigger negative return.

The good salesman recommending Fund A elected to show the performance at the peak of the market, say as at 30th April. Fund A has the higher return, and since the investor usually goes for the fund with the better returns, so Fund A wins!

(And unknown to the investor, the selected Fund A and Fund B is not in the same market sector. laugh.gif )

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post Aug 13 2015, 04:50 PM

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The performance of my funds within 3 days:-

(1) EISC from +10.00% to -0.01%
(2) KGF from +10.00% to +2.74%.

These two funds form about 17.877% of my total portfolio.

IMHO, now would be a good time for new investors to buy some EISC. Unless of course you are waiting for KLCI to fall below 1500 points.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 12 2015, 06:36 PM)
Wait after BERSIH 4.0 whistling.gif
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later internet warfare cannot buy how?

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 12 2015, 06:34 PM)
wait for Merdeka Promo  tongue.gif
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No news so far sad.gif ...

QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Aug 13 2015, 03:20 PM)
The performance of my funds within 3 days:-

(1)  EISC from +10.00% to -0.01%
(2)  KGF from +10.00% to +2.74%.

These two funds form about 17.877% of my total portfolio.

IMHO, now would be a good time for new investors to buy some EISC. Unless of course you are waiting for KLCI to fall below 1500 points.
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what comes down will go up ... Malaysia is oversold... ringgit too was let free falling... soon , will be an awesome chance like 1997 all over again to enter the market smile.gif having said that .. owh well malaysia can really plunge

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 13 2015, 02:02 PM)
Asian Bonds still okay...Asian countries still doing easing
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Emerging market and Asian Bonds re doing very well smile.gif ~China is messing with FED timing to raise interest

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post Aug 13 2015, 05:33 PM

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IRR on my Affin Hwang Select Opportunity dropped below 2% yawn.gif

Bolehland? Boleh... yawn.gif

CIMB Global Titanic kept my ship afloat bruce.gif
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Aug 13 2015, 04:50 PM)
The performance of my funds within 3 days:-

(1)  EISC from +10.00% to -0.01%
(2)  KGF from +10.00% to +2.74%.

These two funds form about 17.877% of my total portfolio.

IMHO, now would be a good time for new investors to buy some EISC. Unless of course you are waiting for KLCI to fall below 1500 points.
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From 31/07/15 - 12/08/15:
EISC -11.32%
benchmark, small-cap index -11.39%

KGF -7.90%
benchmark KLCI -06.57%

For a young investor, should go for more risk and take the small-cap fund...


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