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Investment GAMUDA GARDENS & KUNDANG ESTATES @ RAWANG, Together 2 townships worth RM11 billion

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aaron1717
post Oct 17 2018, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(unixcorp @ Oct 17 2018, 02:59 PM)
Yeah. Agree with you.

Depending on your workplaces, there is no point to buy a house in Rawang if you work in PJ or KL. Gonna be in jam packed every morning and evening.  sweat.gif
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PJ still ok la... from GG or BSC... the most u need to jam is when u are nearer to your office... KL then abit susah la from these locations...
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Nov 28 2018, 09:00 AM)
Something not really understand..if I sell it after renew the lease say 40years later still need to vomit it back? Now people only look for good environment/security  place to stay, not really care about leasehold or freehold..gamuda Valencia also leasehold right? Better than many freehold smile.gif
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only the difference in premium le... and by their own calculation of apportionment of the premium that you should cover back with normal renewal rate...
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Nov 28 2018, 09:20 AM)
If they charge the premium higher which mean the prop higher value tongue.gif selangor state gov very good, so how about leasehold condo in selangor also 1k?
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condo abit hard.... because u have to renew the strata title with approval from all owners... very hard to ensure everyone wont wanna sell their condo right... and if you proceed for normal renewal... u still got certain discount from the gov.... but if u opt for own stay renewal... the premium that they charged u subsequently when u sell does not entitle for the discount... so depends on how u plan for your renewal... haha
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ Nov 28 2018, 09:38 AM)
den wat for wan susah payah buy leasehold, just get FH, gaodim haha
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if u noticed... alot new landed township nowadays also LH ma... so what to do leh.... just can accept je lo...

and for a freehold... developer charge u premium subsales owners also charge u premium... then u yau not satisfy also wor.... got so easy scenario jau hou loh.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 15 2019, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 8 2018, 04:20 PM)
some of the insight sharing from a resident living nearby GG area:

I live near that place and the road connections to many amenities like food courts and shopping centers are very poor. Only two road connections (and one highway) over there, and the road is only two lane wide. On peak hours, getting out of town can go up to 40 minutes, and you have to go through the village.

There is no change on the development for already 20 years and nothing much has changed.

Younger families with children and teenagers are avoiding the place due to the lack of access to public and general facilities. I saw a unit which is empty for 3-4 years due to the transportation problem and the owner recently put it for sale with the help of the realtor.

There are drug addicts (mostly glue sniffers) roaming around the town near the factories. It is not a good sight too if you bring along your children.

If possible, have a wait-and-see approach before buying. The villages are not going away anytime, and chances of redevelopment is at the minimum.

Well, Gamuda is a reputable developer. They have a project in Sierramas. I can vouch that it is going to be good. I respect the choices of people buying there. However, they should know the consequences of getting a property that cannot be resold because of a poor/distressed location.

However, not all places can be built before the place has been redeveloped. Unfortunately, these are the places that cannot be redeveloped due to the demographics.

I live in a place around after the Matang Pagar area. There are only a row or two shoplots there, and the nearest private clinic is 4kms away. On the north is the KTM Kuang station. The housing estates there are built from 2003 onwards, and it is slightly established compared to the village houses (which is built with mostly wood).

And the majority of the road to the GG has no railings or fences. If you are sleepy in the morning this could cause you to almost swerve into the jungle. The streetlights on these places are very sparse.

The water there taste funny too. Since it is nearby industrial area, it is not surprising that the water could be polluted.

*its basically as per what i mentioned in this forum since i first visited here before, basically GG is on its own, and if there are good masterplan but no good population supporting it, it wont become another Setia alam*
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post Feb 15 2019, 09:43 AM

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for those who bought here... just ask yourself how long you can stay without basic amenities within 5-10 mins driving distance (unless u consider those shops at kampung as amenities then im speechless)... and how long KK has took to develop into a self sustaining township or at least township with basic amenities... and there u go... imagine yourself whenever you wanna buy groceries, have an outside meal occasionally, wanna go see clinic and etc... u have to drive more than 10 mins to nearest matured town by using kampung roads (if you dont want pay toll)...
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post Feb 15 2019, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(christal_ling @ Feb 15 2019, 10:17 AM)
The latest information is that the Waterfront will be ready together with the phrase 1 VP, which is like end of the year. And guess all will have to spend some times to reno the house b4 moving in. So i guess, the waterfront will be having some anchor tenant moving in.

Those who buy during the initial lanching, easily has earn 4-6% comparing to current rate.
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who will be the anchor tenant? confirmed signed TA already? your first phase maybe less than 100 houses will be VP... and less than 40% will be moved in within the first 3 years... u think those tenants can tahan how long with such low volume business... unless gamuda subsidized them 9 9 to stay there... lol...

4-6% paper gain dont say la xiao jie... all properties in klang valley easily got more than that paper gain....
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post Feb 15 2019, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Feb 15 2019, 11:49 AM)
for those who thinks waterfront will be life changing for the 1st 3 yrs after vped....pls pay a visit to jade hills commercials.

or maybe mah sing MR1 commercial more appropriate.

4-6% is not PAPER GAIN. there are developers cost push inflation.
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jade hills ada commercials ka... sei lo... didnt really realized despite visited my fren few times there....

but anyhow... its really tough luck to survive here... imagine after you have kids... u have no schools within near distance to send to also... even SK also tak ada... dont talk about international skul or whatnot... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Feb 16 2019, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(sookngan @ Feb 15 2019, 05:25 PM)
true, if cant wait too bad, kindly look for the mature develop area.
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there are new townships that still have basic amenities ready and still not matured one... sweat.gif like semenyih for example... there are alot newly develop townships... and still can have banks, schools, petrol stations, groceries shopping and etc within less than 10 mins driving radius... and the price of landed there almost similar like GG....
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post May 28 2019, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 28 2019, 12:59 PM)
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pls dun compare this township with setia alam….its a disgrace to even put in the same category.

setia alam nested along NKVE. within 15mins you can reach Klang (a township of over 1mil population), shah alam city, subang jaya and Damansara uptown.

70% of buyers of setia alam from rich klang ppl.

when 1st phase of houses vped in SA, there already Giant in operational. Eramas shoplots were ready. 2yrs after vped, Tesco opened, int school opened.

5yrs after vped, setia mall opened.

pls compared this with Gamuda Gardens. Any of the above wil be ready??????

obviously you guys haven't been following Gamuda approach to township planning.
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post Sep 12 2019, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 13 2019, 03:26 PM)
I commented dedicated tolled highway to township and the expensive LATAR hwy concession but kena shout down like nobody biiz saying tolled HWY is unavoidable lah this lah that lah…..

wait til you see your blood and sweat went out every month and see got pain or not, especially many of these projects are not high priced rich ppl properties.
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if the difference in ownership prices are huge enough compare to buying a new one nearer to cities i think still okay... but for GG.... i think its too expensive for the size, location and leasehold... dont think its worth to stay in it and have to pay the excessive toll everyday... plus the mgmt fee of this developer is not cheap for this 'premium' landed...
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post Sep 13 2019, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(PropertySeeker @ Sep 12 2019, 09:46 PM)
I bought because it is not cheap and I knew I bought at a premium. This is also the reason I buy, I don't fancy the property to be in the range of RM500 to 600k because that is where the majority of people are. Buying at RM900k onwards, I am sure my neighbors are medium upper class and has the ability to sustain prices. Besides I would love to absorb all their 'chi'.

RM500k range, you get employee/executive neighbors.
RM900k and onwards, you get business owners, top sales personnels.

Simple as that, rich stick to rich neighborhood. Poor stays at lower end housings. Chose your surroundings wisely.
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QUOTE(PropertySeeker @ Sep 12 2019, 09:55 PM)
I see that you have close to 9,000 posts. I wonder why do you still talk about excessive tolls or management fees? By now you should understand the logic with so many posts. This is Kl and the Greater KL.

You want toll-free? Imagine where you should live

You want 0 to less mangement fees? Imagine your housing quality
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lol... im staying in the outskirts too not too far from GG and a real Greater KL resident... so dont talk about housing quality or bla3... its been almost 5 years im staying in my individual title F&G housing area... not much of quality issues like u mentioned... in fact... i can't see any bombastic factors that impress me in those middle cost strata title landed development... those premium ones like setia ecopark or eco glades really well maintain and even their location well justified with the pricing and the maintenance paid... and dont talk about toll with me... i paid almost rm300 toll every mth on travel alone and for me its justifiable since my house i bought with decent size and more than decent price with more than decent neighborhood...

you wanna say GG is premium housing...? u bought a unit at 900k above doesnt meant your whole development consist of ppl at your class? there are still the earlier phases which selling at sub 700k.... so you gonna say their chi sucks...? might as well just buy a real premium development dude... and nowadays... with joint income... normal middle class family can own a 900k and above landed too... so where the chi come from? a household income of more than 10k easily get bear the installment la bro doh.gif doh.gif and not to mentioned... u haven't really experience how it is really to stay in outskirt township that cost so much for years...

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post Sep 13 2019, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Sep 12 2019, 10:11 PM)
But if they sell supposed 600k house with 900k price??
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he bought at premium because he late comer... not because the development is that premium... those bought at cheaper pricing also get the same spec like he does anyway.... lol... his argument totally invalid here... and he havent really know what its like to stay in outskirts township with direct tolled road where buy a bawang also need to pay toll daily...
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post Sep 13 2019, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 12 2019, 06:54 PM)
Bandar saujana putra...lower cost housing
Gamuda cove....high end housing

I can list more and more...

But i dont understand for 1st 2 sentences....
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for me... its about the landed pricing u bought at outskirt area... is it justifiable to bear extra toll cost or not... like if u buy a unit at rawang... 500k for 22x70 vs 700k for 22x70... the one i paid 500k for im more willing to bear the toll for it... but those bought at 700k will think i can buy a hse at 700k... toll is small issue for me... frankly speaking... anything below 1m... a middle class executive joint income family also can own 1... i dont think add on additional toll burden is easy on them... moreover if both husband and wife need constantly pay for toll...
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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Sep 13 2019, 10:29 AM)
One day toll pay RM10, if 2 cars, then is RM20 ady.. One month extra RM200-400 can pay for petrol ady... So outskirt need outskirt price looo...
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yea lo... thats why... pricing for a product would be a benchmark of whether i should bear additional toll for it... provided if you really need new house... not subsales la...
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post Sep 13 2019, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(PropertySeeker @ Sep 13 2019, 12:09 PM)
I feel sad for you. You have exposed your livability standard and your surroundings.

When you still talk about premium pricing, and expect to find cheap landeds, perhaps you should focus Rawang Guocoland, Rawang MahSing projects, Kundang Estate Gamuda project, or maybe Rimbayu by IJM, Puncak Alam, Bandar Saujana Putra by LBS, Bandar Tasik Puteri by Low yat, or even Scenaria City at Dengkil, or Desa Coalfields....or Sunsuria landeds in Dengkil area. Perhaps if you are lucky, you can get RM600k, if you are lucky.

Good luck with above locations
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dont need feel sad for me... im happy with my livability standard now... and i feel sad with your supposedly 'premium' choice and better chi environment... lol... only developments like eco ardence, eco sanctuary, setia ecopark, eco glades etc are real premium township with classier buyers in my opinion... would have gone for those townships if all I wan is higher class of living with premium chi... lol...

anyhow... your definition of livability by house pricing also really impressed me... to say u currently staying in desa park city... but easily convinced by the pipe dream that gamuda given to you... anyway... good luck to you... and i shall rest my case of GG here....
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post Sep 13 2019, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(PropertySeeker @ Sep 13 2019, 12:21 PM)
Gamuda Gardens Sub-700k? Guess you just throw a figure out. It is at least 800k onwards, and cheapest units are smallest 20x75 and nearest to HTC. So, don't generalize. 9,000 post senior member I expect more substance to your words.

Location - 18 minutes to Desa Parkcity. By the way I am staying in DPC. I bought this GG easily considering 18 minutes to bliss. If you realize, going in an out of GG has 0 traffic lights, that makes it so accesible and quick connectivity to highways and reduce of traffic time.

Don't mention tolls and leasehold. It is KL and Greater KL for God's sake. Focus on making more money instead of focusing on your RM300 tolls. Only the poors focus on their debt problems, but not focus in their income.

Leasehold? Land scarcity, what do you expect in KL? Think so much for what, better think how to make more money than talking in this forum about tolls, expenses etc
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lol... its okay.... your definition of value is different from most peoples... good luck with your GG like i said... i can make more money for tolls while also spent time posting 9000 posts here bro... so thank you for your concern on hows my time management... laugh.gif laugh.gif and what i posted here for general potential buyers out there to see... not everyone working in DPC like u bro... no need take this so personally... this is public forum... take it 'publicly'...
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QUOTE(PropertySeeker @ Sep 13 2019, 12:27 PM)
By the way, I own a unit in Eco Sanctuary. Thank you for complimenting one of my property. Seriously, thank you for agreeing to it. I expect you to have substance for a 9,000 post senior member, guess this forum also consist of a lot of amateur standard property players. There are more seniority and classy forumers in the Tropicana Aman forum.
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like my motto mentioned... chui shui in property is the best! and if you still didn't realize... there are alot more m40 and b40 in this country... and all these 'amateurs' are what paying your income for your biz or your job or whatever ventures you are in... devil.gif devil.gif
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QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ Nov 11 2019, 11:34 PM)
So the following are scheduled to open next month:

- KFC
- Freshii
- Tealive
- Mr DIY
- 7-eleven

Rumours are ongoing that Starbucks will open a shop as well.

Petron will be built within a year.

Now, where are those people who said this place very hulu la, hutan la, bla bla bla
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post Jan 21 2020, 10:07 AM

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and i thought GG supposed to be exclusive and 'high class'... lol... public just pay additionally rm100 per mth je... and the pricing for club house dont think only those who afford 900k house can subscribe to.... lol

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