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huiewy
post Jul 12 2015, 04:31 PM

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Hi.. learn a lot in previous thread on water filer..

Just wonder.. why the aquaphor official website don't hav "Crystal solo" but have something call drinking water machine? confused.. Can't find local information on aquaphor also.
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post Jul 12 2015, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(fir3man @ Jul 12 2015, 10:47 AM)
Wow long time didn't come to this thread already, thanks @NightFelix for moving and starting another thead  rclxms.gif
I think you are misleading. NSF is not just for "USA". There is a more fundamental difference, LGA is not water expert nor safety standard, it is just government body, in wellfare, tourism, transport....etc etc...

Take a view on their website and what they do, everyone should know that they are not fit to certify a water filter.
Your statement of making the analogy that CPA vs ACCA = LGA vs NSF is very misleading, saying that as long as it is certified by LGA, it is as good as being certified by NSF. But what experty does LGA has to certify? Where is the test report? What facilities they have to perform the certification?
Diamond and Nesh often include statement that their units are certified by exhibition organizations, misleading people that their products are okay, again what kind of experty does the exhibition organization have to do the certification? This had mislead so many people to buy into their filters mad.gif
Another statement made by you that you said some part of Aquaphor is certified by NSF, not the whole unit.....some part? which part? why not found on their website?  doh.gif

I really urge others to do proper study, and LGA is no where close to fit to give "certification" out....pls be a conscience consumer, demand for proof, demand for test report.

The fundamental don't change >>> Where is the test report? show me!

Sorry you really sounds like another diamond and nesh salesman..... doh.gif
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Hi fir3man,

First of all, d_goh already said this before regarding NSF is not just for USA and i already replied saying that it is true NSF does not only apply for USA but Aquaphor Crystal ECO is mainly targeted for European markets and Europeans do recognize LGA while Aquaphor MORION is mainly targeted for USA market, hence they apply for NSF.

I never mentioned that LGA is as good or better than NSF, is just that when you have LGA which is an European Standards, it shows that the AQUAPHOR water is safe to consume. I never said that CPA is better than ACCA or ACCA is better but when you have either one of these cert it shows that you have certain skills or abilities to handle the job of an accountant.
Most information on Aquaphor are in Russian and that is why we cant find them in google but i did email Aquaphor to get the information and here is one of the certification. I think u went to the wrong LGA website or you got the wrong info. THe link that i was given from Aquaphor is as below
http://www.tuv.com/de/deutschland/gk/produ...lga-tested.html

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FYI, in Europe, Aquaphor is Available in the following stores. This shows that Aquaphor is quite an established brand in Europe
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post Jul 12 2015, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(fir3man @ Jul 12 2015, 11:48 AM)
Aquaphor Website
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NSF Report for Aquaphor:
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Conclusion:
- RO water cartridge (Why never mention all this while?)
- Manufacturered in Russia (not UK!!)
- Main HQ is in USA (not UK!!)
- The contaminants mentioned in Aquaphor website is longer, but the test report just TDS (Total Dissolved Solids), which RO filter is examined on.
- Bacteria not in the list....
- Viruses not in the list (how to handle virus without UV?)
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Well i dont sell RO system in Malaysia as most Malaysians do not like it as it is too CLEAN thatz why i never mention about the details about it. However, if you would like to know i can explain them as well.

1) Aquaphor is manufactured in Russia as pointed out by me and also other members in the first thread, never mentioned UK but Europe.

2) Aquaphor was founded in St. Petersburg in 1992 (RUSSIA)

3) Aquaphor RO system DWM101 also known as Morion is certified by NSF 58 (Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Treatment Systems)
If it is certified that it is a RO SYSTEM that means it is a RO Filter. I believe most members will know RO system means filtering everything including minerals and etc that is why it is known as DEAD Water as well.

Copied from NSF website
NSF/ANSI 58: Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Treatment Systems

NSF/ANSI 58 establishes the minimum requirements for the certification of point-of-use (POU) reverse osmosis systems designed to reduce contaminants that may be present in public or private drinking water.
The scope of NSF/ANSI 58 includes material safety, structural integrity, total dissolved solids (TDS) reduction and other optional contaminant reduction claims. The most common optional claims addressed by NSF/ANSI 58 include cyst reduction, hexavalent and trivalent chromium reduction, arsenic reduction, nitrate/nitrite reduction, and cadmium and lead reduction.
http://www.nsf.org/services/by-industry/wa...ment-standards/


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post Jul 12 2015, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(huiewy @ Jul 12 2015, 04:31 PM)
Hi.. learn a lot in previous thread on water filer..

Just wonder.. why the aquaphor official website don't hav "Crystal solo" but have something call drinking water machine? confused.. Can't find local information on aquaphor also.
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Actually Aquaphor is updating their website, if u go to www.aquaphor.com, scroll down you will notice there is a link written "older version", click on it and it will bring you to the old Aquaphor website which have more information but presentation is not as beautiful as the new website.
http://old.aquaphor.com/filters/crystal-solo.htm
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post Jul 13 2015, 08:45 AM

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why so harsh ? you have bad experience with them before or you jealous they doing good biz?

everyone here know they are trying to sell their product here .,,,,,,

If we buy just based on what the seller said and without doing our own homework or research, we deserved it then ....

I do appreciated the seller giving details on the products here in the internet .... at least we can reduce our research to fewer products ...



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post Jul 13 2015, 12:10 PM

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Healthy discussion and information sharing are welcome, if the information are incorrect, anyone can correct it with good manner. smile.gif As always, be a smart consumers, gather all the information you need and decide yourself.
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post Jul 13 2015, 05:01 PM

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Well, this is a discussion thread, open for discussions but if it is a serious buyer who wants to know more, wont they just PM or ask politely rather bombarding facts that are incorrect. If you guys do follow my replies, usually i will have citation for my facts (links or photos), i dont simply say things. For members who came to my shop before will definitely know i am a serious seller and not a regular salesman as this is my own business. I dont sell a product just to make profit, i use them as well. I wouldnt want to put my family's health at risk if Aquaphor is a harmful product. All that i have claimed so far is that the water is safe to consume and it is certified by European Food Regulation as shown in the previous reply. I never claim it to be a miracle water like alkaline, diamond or NESH, just saying it is a good, clean water, i never claim Crystal ECO has NSF, i openly replied and posted it does not have NSF only LGA and TUV. After all, i believe what we need is just to drink more clean healthy water to keep healthy. I tried many types of water filters before and all of them do not work like how they claim to be. As mentioned, i have minor eczema that is why i tried alkaline and also some of the so called miracle water but none of them improve my condition yet had some minor side effect for my other family members. We have been drinking Aquaphor water for many months and so far so GOOD, no known issues and we are drinking more water as it is so convenient, we dont need to boil or get bottle water.

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Talking about Diamond, Diamond this "ahem" company is striking back recently with new design and even more expensive than before.

From Energy to Mineral and now Coral? WTF with them. doh.gif
http://diamondrefined.com/my/price-list-2/

Now they sell Water Filter just like selling iPhone/Samsung. Now come with Gold and Platinum option, too big for your hand House? Don't worry, we have "Mini" for you, and it also come with standard, gold, platinum version as well.

It is simple, perfect, cool, elegant, refined. It is remarkable. C'mon seriously? shakehead.gif
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post Jul 14 2015, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 14 2015, 10:17 AM)
Talking about Diamond, Diamond this "ahem" company is striking back recently with new design and even more expensive than before.

From Energy to Mineral and now Coral? WTF with them. doh.gif
http://diamondrefined.com/my/price-list-2/

Now they sell Water Filter just like selling iPhone/Samsung. Now come with Gold and Platinum option, too big for your hand House? Don't worry, we have "Mini" for you, and it also come with standard, gold, platinum version as well.

It is simple, perfect, cool, elegant, refined. It is remarkable. C'mon seriously? shakehead.gif
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Well just also from my understanding and online research. All the so called mineral stone or life stone and etc how effective are they? With so many cartridges and such little amount in every little cartridge, i doubt it has any benefit to us.

Copied from previous thread

If the media in the cartridge is too little, it might not be off any benefit. For Example, Orange contains Vitamin C and Vitamin C could lighten our skin. However, by consuming one orange alone could not make our skin lighter, the dosage of Vitamin C in orange (60-70mg) is just too little to have any effect as the dosage require is (1,000 – 3,000 mgs). That is why brands like Aquaphor, 3M and Amway emphasize on selected media (carbon block) rather than giving many different medias with very little quantity.
http://www.whiterskin.info/how-taking-extr...-lightens-skin/
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post Jul 14 2015, 08:32 PM

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For those who wants to install Aquaphor on the table without and drilling, it is possible to modified it to be a table top filter. Just installed one today smile.gif

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post Jul 14 2015, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 14 2015, 08:32 PM)
For those who wants to install Aquaphor on the table without and drilling, it is possible to modified it to be a table top filter. Just installed one today smile.gif

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How much is the package cost?
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post Jul 15 2015, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(attap @ Jul 14 2015, 10:40 PM)
How much is the package cost?
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Current Promo for Aquaphor Crystal Eco is RM 1350. Offer ends 31st July 2015. Price does not include installation. If you want to install as table top do let us know.

This is the standard installation design for and the things provided in the Aquaphor Crystal Eco Package

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post Jul 22 2015, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 15 2015, 07:50 AM)
Current Promo for Aquaphor Crystal Eco is RM 1350. Offer ends 31st July 2015. Price does not include installation. If you want to install as table top do let us know.

This is the standard installation design for and the things provided in the Aquaphor Crystal Eco Package

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Any options available to have the Cystal Eco or Cystal Solo to connect or come with a hot water dispenser?

Thanks.
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post Jul 22 2015, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(muncheno @ Jul 22 2015, 04:00 PM)
Any options available to have the Cystal Eco or Cystal Solo to connect or come with a hot water dispenser?

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Nope, i dont sell water dispenser.

Just wondering wouldn't it be more cost effective to get a mini kettle like those in the hotels or even better a SEERS Thermos flasks? Water Dispenser requires maintenance and high electricity consumption, big and bulky as well due to big storage tank. Unless you use a lot of hot water daily, otherwise a mini kettle or Flasks would be a more economical choice, boil what you need and when you need

Example of a mini boiler i found from one of my suppliers
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However, if you would like to get the Aquaphor to be connected to a Water Dispenser, i could try to source it as well

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 15 2015, 07:50 AM)
Current Promo for Aquaphor Crystal Eco is RM 1350. Offer ends 31st July 2015. Price does not include installation. If you want to install as table top do let us know.

This is the standard installation design for and the things provided in the Aquaphor Crystal Eco Package

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Bro,

Does this setup means you will need to drill into the counter top? Or simply connect it into the current existing tap?

Because my current tap is square rather than round, so I found some of the filters cannot fit into it.
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 22 2015, 08:16 PM)
Nope, i dont sell water dispenser.

Just wondering wouldn't it be more cost effective to get a mini kettle like those in the hotels or even better a SEERS Thermos flasks? Water Dispenser requires maintenance and high electricity consumption, big and bulky as well due to big storage tank. Unless you use a lot of hot water daily, otherwise a mini kettle or Flasks would be a more economical choice, boil what you need and when you need

Example of a mini boiler i found from one of my suppliers
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However, if you would like to get the Aquaphor to be connected to a Water Dispenser, i could try to source it as well
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Avoid the SEERS 3 minutes thermos flasks. The so called Nano tech heating glass tube can not last. Mine broken (the glass tube broken) 3 times with my 2 replacement units. When the last unit broken, I never bother already.
It was made in China (¥1xx.00) but claimed Malaysia tech.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jul 23 2015, 03:55 PM)
Bro,

Does this setup means you will need to drill into the counter top? Or simply connect it into the current existing tap?

Because my current tap is square rather than round, so I found some of the filters cannot fit into it.
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May be you can PM me some of the photos or text me your contact number
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QUOTE(amerben88 @ Jul 24 2015, 02:06 AM)
Hi All. Selling New Aquaphor Crystal Eco at RM1180. Limited unit available.
Do PM me if interested. TQ
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We are the sole distributor for Aquaphor in Malaysia, after sales service, warranty and replacement cartridges are only applicable for those who have our receipt.
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 24 2015, 11:18 AM)
We are the sole distributor for Aquaphor in Malaysia, after sales service, warranty and replacement cartridges are only applicable for those who have our receipt.
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