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lynetnonyma
post Oct 22 2015, 04:42 PM

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Why Boon3 never ask to buy BRAHIMS yesterday?

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post Oct 22 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Oct 22 2015, 04:42 PM)
Why Boon3 never ask to buy BRAHIMS yesterday?
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lynetnonyma
post Oct 22 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 04:45 PM)
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Just keeping you occupied until gark come back to give tips....

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post Oct 22 2015, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Oct 22 2015, 04:52 PM)
Just keeping you occupied until gark come back to give tips....
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My nail got chipped a little.... rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 22 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 04:58 PM)
My nail got chipped a little....  rolleyes.gif
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Why you all talk in riddles... not smart enough to understand....

I ask see got luck or not....

Generally, do you pick stocks based on company first then see charts, or look through charts then see about the company? I trying to find a way to narrow down.

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post Oct 22 2015, 05:37 PM

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Generally, do you pick stocks based on company first then see charts, or look through charts then see about the company? I trying to find a way to narrow down.
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There is no short cut for success..
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post Oct 22 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Tctf @ Oct 22 2015, 05:37 PM)
There is no short cut for success..
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Wasn't asking for a shortcut, but thank you for sharing your insight...

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post Oct 22 2015, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:04 AM)
1. I DON'T follow.

Develop your own trading skills.
Never ever follow anyone.... esp your closest family member(s).

2. When I was new in the market....
I paper traded.

Money is precious for me,
There is NO SUCH thing as TUITION FEES.
It's stupid for me la.
If want to learn the stock market....
the one and only way is to paper trade for a few years.
Learn it well... then only enter the market.
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The funny thing about investments hor is everybody is influenced and tempted to make big and fast money.
When in school or at work, we are trained to always prepare for exam or prepare for the projects. do simulations etc.

But when it comes to investing, a lot of people don't bother to do paper trade. don't bother to read and understand what the heck they are doing or what they are investing/trading into. This includes me. whistling.gif doh.gif

So as a young person or not, normally a lot of people cincai hantam few thousand on stocks "strongly" recommended by family members, friends, Siputs, analyst etc.

Interesting right to find out in the end based on experience, reading and sharing/discussion with others... the only right way to do it is to really paper trade for a few years to really understand the mechanics of investing, don't simply to listen to people and to control your emotions when market swing up and down like yoyo.


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2015, 09:25 PM)
I am not a container player laaaa....

ie ... I don't play MANY stocks .......

I always said before ..... less is more!
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Erm... so how many stocks do you trade on hand? 3 to 10 or up to 20?

Why I ask this? Coz Uncle Peter Lynch had over 1k plus stocks during his time at Fidelity. A decent trader/investor will have 10 to 50 stocks on hand or standby to trade. There are always a lot of new and interesting companies to make money from. So to abstain from them all and just focus on that 10 stocks = to some extend limiting your trading/investing skill right? (But if u make a tonne of money from that 10 stocks = bagus lo)

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:28 AM)
Bagging is over hyped and overrated la.

The theory is simple.

The big money is in the waiting...
this was what written 100 years ago....
and it still holds.

you hire a chef.
now as long as the chef is willing and ABLE to cook great food for you to mum mum....
why change?

you enter a trade based on X,Y, Z assumptions.....
now as long as X,Y, X continues to hold true....
why exit and enter the trade?
for everyone knows that it's impossible to catch every single in and out perfectly....
missed one entry back in....
and one might screw oneself's profits.
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If you can have patience and the wisdom to do well with one stock and hold till return multiple baggers = not overrated lo.
Problem is how many people can or willing to do that.

A good trader will argue that the time u take to hold that one stock to achieve say 3 bagger, they can trade many stocks with the same time frame to achieve higher than 3 bagger returns. But seriously, how many people are that pro.

But long story short, I agree with your favourite sayings la which I will quote as follows:
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:40 AM)

to know own self is most important.
know your own capabilities and abilities first.

not everyone can be a trader.
not everyone can be an investor.

but as long as you know your own limitations.....
you should be able to reap what you have sowed..... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 22 2015, 07:43 PM

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post Oct 22 2015, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Oct 22 2015, 05:03 PM)

Generally, do you pick stocks based on company first then see charts, or look through charts then see about the company? I trying to find a way to narrow down.
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Both methods got its plus and minus...

as you know....
Charts can and are quite often 'made'.....
So if you buy based on the chart or as you say, use chart as the initial stock screener...
then your trading play is based on what the market sharks want you to play.
Pure chartist always swear that the charts is their holy grail.....

Using companies as the screener....
well, you trade based on your knowledge/reasoning on how the stock should do in the future......
some say you are more in control...
cause you are trading based on what you know.....
but there are risks also...
sometimes we can make the wrong analysis.....

Which is better?
which is the better route?
I can't answer for you....
what works for me might not work for you....
Perhaps testing it extensively paper trading might help you discover you....

lynetnonyma
post Oct 22 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:54 PM)
Both methods got its plus and minus...

as you know....
Charts can and are quite often 'made'.....
So if you buy based on the chart or as you say, use chart as the initial stock screener...
then your trading play is based on what the market sharks want you to play.
Pure chartist always swear that the charts is their holy grail.....

Using companies as the screener....
well, you trade based on your knowledge/reasoning on how the stock should do in the future......
some say you are more in control...
cause you are trading based on what you know.....
but there are risks also...
sometimes we can make the wrong analysis.....

Which is better?
which is the better route?
I can't answer for you....
what works for me might not work for you....
Perhaps testing it extensively paper trading might help you discover you....
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Yeah, there is no easy answer as all sorts of methods can work or fail. It all seems to be best guess work.
Using charts and looking at previous pattern, you're making best guess what may happen next.
With company data also you're making best guess projection of what may happen in the future. After all things for the company or world events etc could change things very quickly.

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post Oct 22 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Oct 22 2015, 10:16 PM)
Yeah, there is no easy answer as all sorts of methods can work or fail. It all seems to be best guess work.
Using charts and looking at previous pattern, you're making best guess what may happen next.
With company data also you're making best guess projection of what may happen in the future. After all things for the company or world events etc could change things very quickly.
This is exactly why paper trade is important....
It allows you to discover what is not good for you and what is................

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post Oct 23 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 04:24 PM)
Cos long time got no teh ice come. tongue.gif
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lol.... teh o ice got la. hahaha....

anyway, today is the budget day. now market seems very upbeat and resilient about the market.

what do you think? what kind of impact it will have on the market?

my take is, healthcare and infrastructure sector will take a hype.

what say you.
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post Oct 23 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 23 2015, 09:40 AM)
lol.... teh o ice got la. hahaha....

anyway, today is the budget day. now market seems very upbeat and resilient about the market.

what do you think? what kind of impact it will have on the market?

my take is, healthcare and infrastructure sector will take a hype.

what say you.
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I fear a bad overall budget....
where overall govt spending is not reduced at all....
.... and this might probably cause the ringgit to weaken further....
which means....
more and more expensive products for the lower income earners....

I fear for the country...... sad.gif
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post Oct 23 2015, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 23 2015, 09:46 AM)
I fear a bad overall budget....
where overall govt spending is not reduced at all....
.... and this might probably cause the ringgit to weaken further....
which means....
more and more expensive products for the lower income earners....

I fear for the country......  sad.gif
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it is already a budget deficit. it's been few years consequtively...... sad.gif

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post Oct 23 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Oct 22 2015, 04:42 PM)
Why Boon3 never ask to buy BRAHIMS yesterday?
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Wahhhhhh now boon is fortune teller... brows.gif
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post Oct 23 2015, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 23 2015, 09:46 AM)
I fear a bad overall budget....
where overall govt spending is not reduced at all....
.... and this might probably cause the ringgit to weaken further....
which means....
more and more expensive products for the lower income earners....

I fear for the country......  sad.gif
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GST to the rescue,...

Govt is expected to report higher than expected GST collection based on year to date reciepts collection

Also they are 'borrowing' from the companies as GST refund is still very slow (>6 months)..

Hence the govt coffers will be temporary boosted. laugh.gif

Also the expected income tax and corporate tax reduction due to GST MIGHT not materialize... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Oct 23 2015, 10:25 AM
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post Oct 23 2015, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 02:23 PM)
Over the top?

Well do you see anything changing so far that will help the ringgit improve?
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Nope, internal factors like politics are making things worse. However, a few weeks ago, US was not really in a good shape? Forgot where I read it.

yet,

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/23/...N0SG1I820151023

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nop, MYR sucks.
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post Oct 23 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 23 2015, 10:23 AM)
GST to the rescue,...

Govt is expected to report higher than expected GST collection based on year to date reciepts collection

Also they are 'borrowing' from the companies as GST refund is still very slow (>6 months)..

Hence the govt coffers will be temporary boosted.  laugh.gif

Also the expected income tax and corporate tax reduction due to GST MIGHT not materialize... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I don't understand.

GST collection is good, yes?

Then where the Monet gone?
Why the drastic change in toll charges?
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post Oct 23 2015, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Oct 23 2015, 11:07 AM)
Nope, internal factors like politics are making things worse. However, a few weeks ago, US was not really in a good shape? Forgot where I read it.

yet,

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/23/...N0SG1I820151023

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nop, MYR sucks.
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All this while, the US economy is like shit.

Problem is...................... sad.gif

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