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halcyon27
post Mar 17 2017, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(kevinwawa @ Mar 17 2017, 10:11 AM)
here only daikin and pana
here no much people choose other brand
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See other older threads. I've used Carrier, National, Sanyo, York, Daikin, Panasonic, Hitachi, Sharp, Samsung, Mitsubishi Electric and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.
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post Mar 17 2017, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Mar 17 2017, 03:42 PM)
See other older threads. I've used Carrier, National, Sanyo, York, Daikin, Panasonic, Hitachi, Sharp, Samsung, Mitsubishi Electric and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.
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aiyo, u also say older thread la
now is daikin pana d.

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post Mar 17 2017, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(kevinwawa @ Mar 17 2017, 03:45 PM)
aiyo, u also say older thread la
now is daikin pana d.
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Sharp, Sanyo, Toshiba Daiseikai and LG is not bad also. Here perhaps because focus and response is on these two and York but that doesn't mean the other brands are not good, just not prominently mentioned. Even Electrolux and Midea is catching up in feature parity.

What I look for now in bedrooms: self cleaning, air purification, Coanda, energy saving, sleep mode, auto up down left right.

Sharp fits the bill esp with their new line up. One version generation past introduced long throw.
MHI - very good for odds corner placement due to their 3D air flow even with 1HP.

The rest about the same in feature but performance wise some quiet than others. Daikin has always been a nice choice esp mould proof operation and other features. Samsung Triangle also has caught up with self clean. This helps reduce mould growth.


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post Mar 17 2017, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Mar 17 2017, 09:14 AM)
I dont know where you compare you price of extra 1k for inverter.
Inverter usually cost 20-30% more.
But this is justified as inverters are usually 20% more efficient than non-inverters.
But end of the day it's your choice.
What i can tell you is that my inverter AC has paid itself after about 1 year of usage in terms of savings in TNB bill.

I am refering to panasonic inveter 1.5HP which can go up to 14,000 BTU/h.

Make comparison yourself and decide yourself. icon_idea.gif
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My bad, over-exaggeration. It's about 50% more, approximately 600. I just rounded it up to the nearest thousand laugh.gif

I'm working on a max budget of 2k - the lesser the better. Spent quite a bit already on a water filter and air purifier so gotta cut back a bit on the ac.

Mind if I ask your room size and how long you've used your unit for? Also, which model yeah?

Thanks smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2017, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Mar 17 2017, 03:59 PM)
Sharp, Sanyo, Toshiba Daiseikai and LG is not bad also. Here perhaps because focus and response is on these two and York but that doesn't mean the other brands are not good, just not prominently mentioned. Even Electrolux and Midea is catching up in feature parity.

What I look for now in bedrooms: self cleaning, air purification, Coanda, energy saving, sleep mode, auto up down left right.

Sharp fits the bill esp with their new line up. One version generation past introduced long throw.
MHI - very good for odds corner placement due to their 3D air flow even with 1HP.

The rest about the same in feature but performance wise some quiet than others. Daikin has always been a nice choice esp mould proof operation and other features. Samsung Triangle also has caught up with self clean. This helps reduce mould growth.
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Sorry but what is MHI brands? my house current aircon point is very odd. this might suites me.
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post Mar 17 2017, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Mar 17 2017, 09:55 AM)
Daikin is previously York right? But Panasonic, my current house is using national which is it's predecessor. The bearing is very noisy leh. the aircon today still have the round blower with bearing right?
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Then York AC brand is now still available in the market...
But, as I know, The company that holds the brand had changed
But also, The Ac manufactured by York is at a good quality too.
A number of ppl recommend York to me also as I looking for choices of the AC
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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 17 2017, 01:08 PM)
FTN u mean?
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FTM35KV1V, they say that this one is the highest quality for non-inverter from Daikin.

I'm looking forward to buying this one, just wonder how is its performance.

This post has been edited by Daknis: Mar 17 2017, 06:54 PM
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post Mar 17 2017, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(malik228 @ Mar 17 2017, 06:15 PM)
Then York AC brand is now still available in the market...
But, as I know, The company that holds the brand had changed
But also, The Ac manufactured by York is at a good quality too.
A number of ppl recommend York to me also as I looking for choices of the AC
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that one now still ok la their AC
now the fight between brands and brands is competitive
they must do better in order to get a seat in the market
especially now they've changed the holding company
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post Mar 17 2017, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Mar 17 2017, 04:27 PM)
Sorry but what is MHI brands? my house current aircon point is very odd. this might suites me.
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Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Their inverter have 3D ie auto up down left right even for 1HP. See here and their FB video.

One thing that distinguishes 3D from all other make's auto up down and left right is that MHI's has one motor for left and one for right such that in 3D they can fan the blower to a wide dispersal pattern.

Hence in manual mode, one of the 8 basic air dispersal configuration can be set if you don't want auto 3D and according to room and AC placement, set to some degree of how much to the left (or right) the air vane should be directed.

Imagine an L shape room with aC placed in such a way that it can blow both ends at the same time (L and R fixed) and auto up down to induce a gentle billowing breeze.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Mar 18 2017, 02:28 PM
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post Mar 19 2017, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Abuneinei99 @ Jan 10 2017, 07:35 AM)
Brand new go with R410 and inverter model
Used with existing pipeline, for replacement, then stick to R22 any more as you wish.

But if wanna save more energy go for inverter is the better choice.
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Is flushing needed?
One told me that is needed. While the other say no need.
Since mine conceal. Not going to change piping
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post Mar 19 2017, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(noien @ Mar 19 2017, 03:08 PM)
Is flushing needed?
One told me that is needed. While the other say no need.
Since mine conceal. Not going to change piping
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Needed. Did that for my old pipes. Something about their chemical composition doesn't agree with the R410a equipment or vice versa.
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Mar 19 2017, 04:48 PM)
Needed. Did that for my old pipes. Something about their chemical composition doesn't agree with the R410a equipment or vice versa.
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Ok thanks
How much urs was charge?
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post Mar 19 2017, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(noien @ Mar 19 2017, 05:26 PM)
Ok thanks
How much urs was charge?
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It was all included in part of the renovation for removing 5 and installing 6 AC with some new pipes laid or relaid.

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post Mar 20 2017, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Mar 17 2017, 08:25 PM)
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Their inverter have 3D ie auto up down left right even for 1HP. See here and their FB video.

One thing that distinguishes 3D from all other make's auto up down and left right is that MHI's has one motor for left and one for right such that in 3D they can fan the blower to a wide dispersal pattern.

Hence in manual mode, one of the 8 basic air dispersal configuration can be set if you don't want auto 3D and according to room and AC placement, set to some degree of how much to the left (or right) the air vane should be directed. 

Imagine an L shape room with aC placed in such a way that it can blow both ends at the same time (L and R fixed) and auto up down to induce a gentle billowing breeze.
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Wow, this is nice. but is MHI aircon good? i know it's not cheap but can their aircon last long? i mean at least 10~20years or so.
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post Mar 20 2017, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Mar 20 2017, 07:42 AM)
Wow, this is nice. but is MHI aircon good? i know it's not cheap but can their aircon last long? i mean at least 10~20years or so.
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no need get air con last for 10-20 years
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post Mar 20 2017, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 17 2017, 04:14 PM)
My bad, over-exaggeration. It's about 50% more, approximately 600. I just rounded it up to the nearest thousand laugh.gif

I'm working on a max budget of 2k - the lesser the better. Spent quite a bit already on a water filter and air purifier so gotta cut back a bit on the ac.

Mind if I ask your room size and how long you've used your unit for? Also, which model yeah?

Thanks smile.gif
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Still dont get your 50% more.
Based on panasonic website, CS-V12RKH is around 1.8k, while CS-S13SKH is around 2.0k.
Unless you are comparing with CS-SV12SKH which is around 1.5k.

I am using CS-S10RKH for my smaller room ~100 sq ft.
coming to 2 years using it.

got another unit, CS-S13RKH for the master bedroom ~288 sq ft.

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post Mar 20 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(kevinwawa @ Mar 20 2017, 08:44 AM)
no need get air con last for 10-20 years
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why not? if keep need to change, it is very costly. my current house aircon is already about 16years old coming to 17 already
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Mar 20 2017, 11:43 AM)
why not? if keep need to change, it is very costly.
now electronic stuff no last long

my house air con also last for 20 year. national
Toshiba TV 20 year also no problem.
that is last time, now don't expect too much
water heater now can last 5-7 year is very good d.
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post Mar 20 2017, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Mar 20 2017, 11:43 AM)
why not? if keep need to change, it is very costly. my current house aircon is already about 16years old coming to 17 already
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It will be more costly to run old air con due to high power consumption.

If you replace it now, most likely it will start to pay for itself within 1~2 years.
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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Mar 20 2017, 12:02 PM)
It will be more costly to run old air con due to high power consumption.

If you replace it now, most likely it will start to pay for itself within 1~2 years.
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that y now got energy rating stuff
buy 3 star energy saving and above.
inverter air con more expensive at first but save on electric bill more than non inverter if switch on more than 6 hours.

another thing is if air con no cool etc, people tend to ask people come repair etc
if need keep on servicing and fixing better buy new one. it is even worth buy new one compare servicing for 500++

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