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voscar
post Feb 2 2022, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(yurie @ Feb 1 2022, 10:08 PM)
It's Panasonic CS-PN9WKH. Wonder if anyone has this can comment if your compressor sounds loud?
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Noise like this?
Not the same brand, but it was the noise that causes me sold off after a month and getting inverter aircond.
Inverter aircond still have noise but it wasn't constant, it will turn down the compressor after 15-30 mins.

To be honest coming from older gen R22 ac, I found these newer gen R32 compressor are noisy, 2 different brands, inverter and non inverter (non inverter the worst).
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post Feb 13 2022, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Feb 13 2022, 11:45 AM)
The right way to get rid of the smell is to dismantle the ac to the 'bones' ......

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Since is not turn on frequently, dont turn off the ac immediately after each use. Switch to fan mode for 15 minutes to 'dry' the unit. It will have less chances for mold to accumulated.
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My Panasonic no fan mode? How to do that?
Yes I knew this trick but can't apply to my Panasonic, sad.
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post Feb 14 2022, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 13 2022, 10:57 PM)
My Panasonic 2014 model, at times when you turn it off it will continue on the blower for a set of time I guess part of the feature to mitigate this jelly build up.
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That is nanoe-g feature I believe, our office has that I also observed its operation after switching off, unfortunately my house unit is just standard R32 inverter without this and no fan mode which is strange...
voscar
post May 1 2022, 09:03 PM

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It's about 3.5 years since I installed the Panasonic 1.5hp R32 Standard Inverter. I usually diy spray wash the indoor unit annually.

Recently I found the compressor speed will slowed down after 10 mins of usage on hot day, check current 1.8-2A at main switch when it's slowed down. The lower temp and higher blower speed, the more easier to trigger this effect. So today I check the outdoor unit and found the dirt, that was crazy thick just after 3.5 years? I recall my previous old Toshiba only washed once in 15 years and still working good.

Anyway, tried to diy wash the outdoor by spray water and use the Mr. DIY car aircon cleaner spray. I wished to open up the outdoor unit to do proper cleaning as per YouTube videos. Too bad my installer installed the unit right on top with super minimal clearance to the top for opening the top cover, and the side screw was deep inside for me to reach as well.

Some photos of before and after, dirt are still inside the porous, maybe just barely 30% dirt washed off. Will be observing if it improved on hot day.

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post May 3 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(pigduck @ May 3 2022, 04:02 PM)
so what happened?
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Before cleaning the compressor will occasionally slow down during hot day, after clean due to raining season yet to experienced that effect as of now.
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post May 8 2022, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ May 8 2022, 02:52 PM)
i had about the same issues  with 1 of my daikin AC during start of MCO a year ago.
On power ON  it works normal/cooling  for about  15 mins  then  the cooling slowed done  and
i could see  the IDU fins  some parts  not getting cold ./ no water condensation.
I cleaned the IDU fins with AC cleaner spray . but still  same issue.
i thought maybe not enough gas  or something faulty so just  left it  . this bedroom  not in use/  guest room.
A few month later i had time  to  climb the  kitchen roof  and saw  that  the ODU  was  clog with a layer of dust.
used AC spray cleaner to  clean the ODU fins. 
After this  i test the AC  and  wow  it works  all normal  now with great cooling .
i guess its  about  4 year  since new  i did not  clean/check  the ODU  fins . 

Lesson learnt .. is need to  do regular cleaning service  on the IDU and ODU  fins .

if you experiencing  poor cooling performance  , the first thing  to do is to check and clean them.
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You used those aerosol spray or those pink color ac cleaning chemical?
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post May 13 2022, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 13 2022, 07:47 AM)
3.5 years without service? Even when I was using mine for 2-3 times a week for couple of hours, I had to service mine once every 2 years or so.
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Ya no service, daily estimate 5 hours usage since parents at home, afternoon hot weather sure on.

BTW, I'm still able to reproduce the problem. On lower temp and high fan speed, example 21c and 3 or above higher fan speed, then compressor confirmed will slow down after 5 mins. We usually use 25c and fan speed 1 or 2 then will be alright to use.

I suspect then ODU fan spinning was weak, very less wind blowing compare to last time, jialak quality so bad less than 5 years already weak. I check YouTube the capacitor seems to soldered on the ODU PCB board and 5 years compressor warranty seems doesn't cover this item...

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post May 13 2022, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(excaliburcombo @ May 13 2022, 09:24 PM)
indoor blower OK? fan full speed wind kuat or not? Wind come out all area or not? sometime indoor unit have blocking will having this problem (start run ok later the compressor slow down)
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Indoor ok, wind was strong for indoor. I got do annual cleanup the indoor coil and roller fan with brush and sprayer, it was tip top for indoor unit.
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post May 13 2022, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 13 2022, 11:21 PM)
Maybe compressor condemn... that fin blocked until like that, compressor keep pump harder and harder.
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You mean now compressor not good will not able to run full load? Coz normal slow load (inverter) it's still cooling good.
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post May 14 2022, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 14 2022, 12:47 AM)
I'm just guessing though. To be honest, I had the same problem with my Samsung triangle inverter as well. Lately it's misbehaving at times. After it got cold, it would suddenly blew just normal temp wind for a couple minutes before it would then resume to cool again without any problem.
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Perhaps nowadays the weather is really too hot so I see a few users here also experiencing same problem especially dirty ODU...
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post May 16 2022, 08:50 PM

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Today do thorough DIY clean-up for ODU by removing front cover and fan blade, spray water from inside to outside, and uses another bottle of DIY auto aircond cleaner. Indoor unit also do thorough cleanup and brushing...

If still same issue then will call warranty center liao.

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post May 16 2022, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ May 16 2022, 10:17 PM)
You have done an amazing job to clean your indoor units so clean.
How did you do it?
What about the blower?  I think it accumulated lots of dusts too.
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Actually indoor unit I always did annual cleaning before CNY, using sprayer mixed with car wash shampoo, spray and use toothbrush to scrub it, then spray clear water again and scrub, at the same time will spray the roller fan there as well but didn't open up that console. So it was quite clean before today's job also.

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post May 21 2022, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ May 8 2022, 03:47 PM)
for indoor  i have use  wd40 AC cleaner,  and  another  in a  can  /  both a can spray type.  i like the WD better but bit expensive.

for ODU  i use kleenso AC cleaner  .  very good  cleaning  .  12 rm a  spray bottle .  it say germany  formulation .
good for  6  AC ODU  wash per bottle.
its a alkaline liquid.
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Bro, the Kleenso I think is too strong, when I spray can feel the mist touch my skin and little pain. Then I see discolouration on the bottom roof part beneath the ODU after wash.

I think it too strong might attack the fins, only can use once or twice per AC lifetime...
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post Jul 31 2022, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jul 30 2022, 09:40 PM)
Hi experts... i wanna ask if for aircond... should we consider buying extended warranty? For tv as example i am very sure i will buy but for aircond, touch wood but i feel the risk of aircond spoil will be less... but then again i have been using very old units and not sure if nowadays the build quality is getting worse...
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Mine compressor just spoilt, 3.5 years. Waiting warranty replacement, but need to folk out huge sum of labor fee...
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Aug 4 2022, 07:37 AM)
Compressor hardly spoiled, as usual 6-10 years warranty
What’s the brand ?
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Your next reply the second one.
Air blow out 23-24c I also don't know why, this morning just done replacement later I try.
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post Aug 11 2022, 09:37 PM

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Hi, usually aircond blower outlet wind temp how much? After replace compressor feel my AC still not as cool as before, measuring about 18c on the blower outlet. Before this I never measure so don't know what is the suppose range. Technician told me the refrigerant pressure is around 150-160, R32 type, is this healthy range? Google saw should be higher 177 something above....

My room smaller 1hp AC with door wide open already 11c like that after running 15 mins...
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post Aug 12 2022, 08:25 PM

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Guys, is it normal to have evaporator coil cool and wet on upper part, 18c; but warm and dry on lower part, 24c?
Or it should be consistent cold and wet?


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post Aug 21 2022, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(cuttlefish @ Aug 21 2022, 05:55 PM)
what brand is this?

in my opinion it is not normal, or it may be a bad design.
the huge temperature difference means that the refrigerant may already be in superheated state. this may cause other issues such as water spitting and sweating. May be caused by insufficient refrigerant in system, or just plain poor design.
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Brand P...
The technician came to vacuum the refrigerant again and refill it, if pressure set to standard 150 psi 4.5A at compressor, it's not cooling. Have to increases to 170 psi 5.1A like that only it's getting cooler.

I didn't climb up to measure the coil temp, the air was cool but not as great as before problem, also morning turn on aircond time will have water boiling noise at IDU for 2 mins.

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post Aug 22 2022, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(cuttlefish @ Aug 21 2022, 10:00 PM)
is your unit still under warranty?
why did the compressor needed replacement?
manufacturer technician or 3rd party technician?
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Already 3.5 years unit, so left only compressor under warranty.

Few months back starting have symptom, if run higher fan speed and lower temp, the compressor will switch to very low power mode after just 5 mins of running, so I can only use higher temp 25c and fan speed 1, 2 for medium compressor speed. Then few weeks back starting not so cool, the air blew out just windy feel only, compressor refused to run higher speed already even set to lowest and full blast air. When technician came he said my gas pressure is too high at 190 psi so he releases to 150 psi, then is even worse the air blew out only 24-25c, he said it's normal but I told him it's not normal, then he proceed to claim warranty on the compressor. The strange part is why at the first place the pressure was high even though when newly install this aircond that time the technician only do measurement and didn't add refrigerant, and after years I also never get outsider to top up refrigerant also...

Manufacturer appointed 3rd party technician.
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post Aug 22 2022, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(cuttlefish @ Aug 22 2022, 12:59 PM)
did the technician provide you with the site attendance report?

190psi is indeed high.
could be caused by the system was not properly vacuumed last time, causing air to enter the refrigerant system.

hopefully, proper vacuuming was done this time during the compressor change. can just continue to monitor, if the performance is still not up to expectation, continue to file for complaint since the compressor is still under warranty.
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No, don't have report, invoice for service labor yes

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